CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

JoeFritzl · 20-03-2020 11:29AM

To be honest 500 cases isn't really that much.

weldoninhio · 20-03-2020 11:30AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

Hilarious watching "reporters" getting their knickers in a twist over it. The look on Trumps face when one mentioned Kung Flu

:D:D. I've a feeling that he's gonna use that over the next few weeks.

Gods Gift · 20-03-2020 11:30AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

WE HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR ITSELF

And running out of toilet roll.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:30AM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Can you directly compare Ireland v Italy at the same number of days after the 1st case ?

What date was Ireland 1st case v Italy 1st case .

This would be a useful comparison if we did what Italy has done, i.e. a belated response and some ongoing fairly inconsistent observation of the lockdown.

BigMo1 · 20-03-2020 11:30AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Really not. Cycled past 5 or 6 lads working out at the outdoor gym at clontarf seafront today, no gloves doing pull ups etc. People everywhere. Supermarkets with kids and people on top of each other.
Apart from schools being close and some business, life is going on as usual. That's why it's going to spread like crazy, and I don't think most people will take this seriously until it's up to 10,000 cases or so.

Just because you seen a couple instances of people not complying doesn't mean the majority aren't!

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 11:31AM

MOR316 wrote: »

What the **** is a boomer?

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:31AM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Why is it important to know? Would any particular number have any impact on your behaviour?

Why keep it a secret it, if its a low number it'll give us hope and we can double down on social isolation and staying in , it will give people hope that they are making a difference ,

If its high number it will give some people the kick in the hole they need to take things seriously,

Its our Nation not the governments ,Its our families ,friends and love ones who will die, we should have right to know these things,

BluePlanet · 20-03-2020 11:32AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

How could anybody know if there would be long term immunity or not. The virus is only around for a few months. The best you could say is that your chances of being reinfected would be substantially lower. However, if the virus mutates you are back to square one.

Preaching to the choir my friend.

I'm responding to someone that appears to believe in and advocate herd immunity without vaccination.

Drumpot · 20-03-2020 11:32AM

skellig_rocks wrote: »

China tries to deflect the blame of the crisis to the US army.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/us-military-may-have-brought-coronavirus-to-wuhan-says-china-in-war-of-words-with-us

Only afterward he started using the term "Chinese Virus". Of course he is playing with politics, but if the Chinese are playing dirty politics, what would you do? Also China are spreading propaganda about how Italian sang Chinese national anthem in a Italian town and the Chinese donated masks (Italian government bought them). Don't underestimated China propaganda machine and its will to alter history. At least now everyone knows the virus is originated from China.

No, you don’t ramp up tensions in a Crisis because one side is trying to coax a reaction.. A level headed president worries about that after the crisis has averted and doesn’t respond. Trumps knee jerk reaction is basically taking the bait. He’s a disaster and making mistake after mistake.

The priority now is to address the issue, the issue isn’t propaganda it’s slowing the virus.

IvoryTower · 20-03-2020 11:32AM

exactly, most people i see are being very careful. Those that aren't will be the ones to get it but hopefully with so many being careful we won't get over run

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 11:33AM

JoeFritzl wrote: »

To be honest 500 cases isn't really that much.

It isn’t. Also very low deaths. Testament to our frontline medics. But we were low on actual tests and laboratories didn’t get results back quickly. Don’t be thinking that we don’t have a high positive amount that haven’t been tested.

dummy_crusher · 20-03-2020 11:33AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Remember to those who get infected-you are doing your country and society a Service in the name of building our immunity

This is dangerous in my opinion and has no place here.

ArchXStanton · 20-03-2020 11:33AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

And running out of toilet roll.

sjb25 · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

Steve F wrote: »

I have been saying for months the real fight is against those that continue to deny the seriousness of this Virus not the virus itself

This is the problem the “life must go on” brigade or the “sure we have to get out”
People think this is not that bad and we are all over reacting I’m looking out the window now and see it’s a lovely day I can gaurentee we get good weather this weekend we will have bbqs and house party’s all over the place why can’t we all just for a few weeks do what we are told for once

I work frontline in healthcare and it’s me you will all be coming crying to if this hits you putting me and my family at risk aswell
Social Distancing can work but only if people actually do it not half arsed effort
but sure look it’s grand life must go on businesses must keep going etc etc

otnomart · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

Blazer · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Bu he's not actually wrong blaming China is he

There’s a time and a place for it afterwards to stop this from happening again.
As stated already last week it was Europe’s fault and a Democrat hoax and now that he’s realised that he’s really screwed up this time he needs a new scapegoat.
Trump and Johnson has shown what kind of special idiots they really are this week. They’re lucky their supporters are even stupider than they are otherwise they’d be turfed out of office pronto.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:35AM

otnomart wrote: »

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

40,000 in Italy.

Wibbs · 20-03-2020 11:35AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The jump of animal bugs to humans could happen anywhere (including Ireland). Trying to find someone or some country to blame is a total waste of time and energy.

It’s just a matter of chance or bad luck.

Sh*t happens.

Yes but with a huge dollop of no. The risks of such viral jumps are massively increased with certain animal husbandry practices and such practices are too common in certain parts of the world. The cultures of the far East being one. China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand. These practices have to be stopped.

Podge201 · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

sjb25 wrote: »

This is the problem the “life must go on” brigade or the “sure we have to get out”
People think this is not that bad and we are all over reacting I’m looking out the window now and see it’s a lovely day I can gaurentee we get good weather this weekend we will have bbqs and house party’s all over the place why can’t we all just for a few weeks do what we are told for once

I work frontline in healthcare and it’s me you will all be coming crying to if this hits you putting me and my family at risk aswell
Social Distancing can work but only if people actually do it not half arsed effort
but sure look it’s grand life must go on businesses must keep going etc etc

Corona parties celebrating the Chinese virus

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hilarious watching "reporters" getting their knickers in a twist over it. The look on Trumps face when one mentioned Kung Flu :D:D. I've a feeling that he's gonna use that over the next few weeks.

He even said I wouldn't say china are to blame, but that's 100% where it came form,
People make up there own narrative about him never so many lies told about one man, so many quotes doctored to suit the other side,

I don't like him but you can't pretend that 3/4 of the things he says are not misquoted,

When the reported said a White house official said Kung flu , his first question was who said it ? They couldn't answer because as usual its was made up .

ArchXStanton · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

otnomart wrote: »

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

I find it amazing that puppet boy Macron was telling everyone that it was OK to go out and vote and then literally the next day that a lockdown was in place with punishments being dished out for those that don't take it serious...

Scotty # · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

Still plenty of activity over the Atlantic and MASSES of traffic to the canaries!!

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

JoeFritzl wrote: »

To be honest 500 cases isn't really that much.

Not yet. But its doubling about every 3 days. So 1000 cases in 3 days, 2000 cases by Thursday next week, 4000 by next weekend. And that's only the confirmed cases. There's already a substantial backlog of people waiting to be tested and people who won't bother getting tested.

The only slight positive so far is the relatively low median age.

scamalert · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Really not. Cycled past 5 or 6 lads working out at the outdoor gym at clontarf seafront today, no gloves doing pull ups etc. People everywhere. Supermarkets with kids and people on top of each other.
Apart from schools being close and some business, life is going on as usual. That's why it's going to spread like crazy, and I don't think most people will take this seriously until it's up to 10,000 cases or so.

well at this rate it doesnt matter how many cases there are, more the better, its only critical that matter, if we accept that theres prob 10-20k infected in general now and its not causing much of issue, most should be fine or already had it, if people think that come April there will be more measures put in, i think some are seriously delirious at fact that they prob thrive on this crap to be isolated and do nothing sitting at home is their preferred life style.

JoeFritzl · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

joeguevara wrote: »

It isn’t. Also very low deaths. Testament to our frontline medics. But we were low on actual tests and laboratories didn’t get results back quickly. Don’t be thinking that we don’t have a high positive amount that haven’t been tested.

By that logic the efforts we are making now won't change the "curve" until the results begin coming back in a few more days.

So the curve has already been flattened now.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

Akrasia wrote: »

how could there possibly be evidence of this when the virus has only existed for about 5 months?

There is evidence that the coronavirus is not prone to rapid mutation and therefore there is a good reason to believe that once your immune system has learned how to fight this virus, that it will be at least partially immune to it later on.
We know that similar viruses like SARS and MERS are mostly once off events that can lead to immunity

There is a chance that it can be persistant, like herps, but we have no way of knowing yet.
There isn't any evidence that the virus can remain dormant in the human system like the Herpes virus, so there is no point in speculating that it does.

There is limited evidence that monkeys show immunity. But the test is too small (19) and nothing can be extrapolated. It is heartening to those who recovered but no way would I take the risk so early needlessly.
https://www.livescience.com/monkeys-cannot-get-reinfected-with-coronavirus-study.html

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/flsoeu/the_new_normal_good_article_from_mit_technology/
The new normal..
Study from MIT estimates that social distancing and school closures would need to be implemented two months on and one month off for a period of 18 months until the vaccine is deployed.

Get Real · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

Mr.S wrote: »

How does that work in France / Italy / Spain - you are allowed out to go shopping, if stopped, can you not just say you are going shopping?

You get a designated time to go shopping. You fill out a card of when you left the house.

*If* you're stopped, and you don't have it filled for that day, fine. If you're hours (maybe 2 but I don't know for certain) outside your alloted time, fine.

Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20200318-france-coronavirus-lockdown-violation-attestation-epidemic-christophe-castaner-public-health

Fine of 135, up to 375 euro. Presumably for repeat offenders.

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:39AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

YES he is ! Classic Trumpian distraction technique from his own obvious failures in tackling the virus

There is no logic to finding countries to blame for pandemics, just like that despicable orange idiot in the white house and some here.

If Trumps logic is followed we may have to rename the 1918 (H1N1) 'Spanish' flu pandemic (the deadliest pandemic in history so far) 'The USA Virus' or 'The Kansas Virus'. It killed an estimated 50 - 100 million people.

Using the same logic...the USA did not learn... they also 'caused' the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) pandemic, infecting 31,000 people with 1,900 deaths. Yeaa let's call that one 'The USA2 Virus' or 'The California Virus'.

A two-year-old boy called Emile Ouamouno from Guinea in Africa became infected with Ebola virus by playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of bats. He infected his mother and sister and sadly all three died.

That started the recent (2013) Ebola epidemic infecting 28,616 people with 11,310 deaths.

Are you going blame the dead toddler ?

Are you going to punish the country of Guinea for this ?

The jump of animal bugs to humans could happen anywhere (including Ireland). Trying to find someone or some country to blame is a total waste of time and energy.

It’s just a matter of chance or bad luck.

Sh*t happens.

But this one did start in China ,

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 11:39AM

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP