CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

ArchXStanton · 20-03-2020 11:33AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

And running out of toilet roll.

sjb25 · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

Steve F wrote: »

I have been saying for months the real fight is against those that continue to deny the seriousness of this Virus not the virus itself

This is the problem the “life must go on” brigade or the “sure we have to get out”
People think this is not that bad and we are all over reacting I’m looking out the window now and see it’s a lovely day I can gaurentee we get good weather this weekend we will have bbqs and house party’s all over the place why can’t we all just for a few weeks do what we are told for once

I work frontline in healthcare and it’s me you will all be coming crying to if this hits you putting me and my family at risk aswell
Social Distancing can work but only if people actually do it not half arsed effort
but sure look it’s grand life must go on businesses must keep going etc etc

otnomart · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

Blazer · 20-03-2020 11:34AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Bu he's not actually wrong blaming China is he

There’s a time and a place for it afterwards to stop this from happening again.
As stated already last week it was Europe’s fault and a Democrat hoax and now that he’s realised that he’s really screwed up this time he needs a new scapegoat.
Trump and Johnson has shown what kind of special idiots they really are this week. They’re lucky their supporters are even stupider than they are otherwise they’d be turfed out of office pronto.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:35AM

otnomart wrote: »

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

40,000 in Italy.

Wibbs · 20-03-2020 11:35AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The jump of animal bugs to humans could happen anywhere (including Ireland). Trying to find someone or some country to blame is a total waste of time and energy.

It’s just a matter of chance or bad luck.

Sh*t happens.

Yes but with a huge dollop of no. The risks of such viral jumps are massively increased with certain animal husbandry practices and such practices are too common in certain parts of the world. The cultures of the far East being one. China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand. These practices have to be stopped.

Podge201 · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

sjb25 wrote: »

This is the problem the “life must go on” brigade or the “sure we have to get out”
People think this is not that bad and we are all over reacting I’m looking out the window now and see it’s a lovely day I can gaurentee we get good weather this weekend we will have bbqs and house party’s all over the place why can’t we all just for a few weeks do what we are told for once

I work frontline in healthcare and it’s me you will all be coming crying to if this hits you putting me and my family at risk aswell
Social Distancing can work but only if people actually do it not half arsed effort
but sure look it’s grand life must go on businesses must keep going etc etc

Corona parties celebrating the Chinese virus

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hilarious watching "reporters" getting their knickers in a twist over it. The look on Trumps face when one mentioned Kung Flu :D:D. I've a feeling that he's gonna use that over the next few weeks.

He even said I wouldn't say china are to blame, but that's 100% where it came form,
People make up there own narrative about him never so many lies told about one man, so many quotes doctored to suit the other side,

I don't like him but you can't pretend that 3/4 of the things he says are not misquoted,

When the reported said a White house official said Kung flu , his first question was who said it ? They couldn't answer because as usual its was made up .

ArchXStanton · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

otnomart wrote: »

already 18000 in France have been fined for breaking the conditions of the lockdown
https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/coronavirus-18-000-verbalisations-en-france-depuis-le-debut-du-confinement-1878456.html

I find it amazing that puppet boy Macron was telling everyone that it was OK to go out and vote and then literally the next day that a lockdown was in place with punishments being dished out for those that don't take it serious...

Scotty # · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

Still plenty of activity over the Atlantic and MASSES of traffic to the canaries!!

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

JoeFritzl wrote: »

To be honest 500 cases isn't really that much.

Not yet. But its doubling about every 3 days. So 1000 cases in 3 days, 2000 cases by Thursday next week, 4000 by next weekend. And that's only the confirmed cases. There's already a substantial backlog of people waiting to be tested and people who won't bother getting tested.

The only slight positive so far is the relatively low median age.

scamalert · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Really not. Cycled past 5 or 6 lads working out at the outdoor gym at clontarf seafront today, no gloves doing pull ups etc. People everywhere. Supermarkets with kids and people on top of each other.
Apart from schools being close and some business, life is going on as usual. That's why it's going to spread like crazy, and I don't think most people will take this seriously until it's up to 10,000 cases or so.

well at this rate it doesnt matter how many cases there are, more the better, its only critical that matter, if we accept that theres prob 10-20k infected in general now and its not causing much of issue, most should be fine or already had it, if people think that come April there will be more measures put in, i think some are seriously delirious at fact that they prob thrive on this crap to be isolated and do nothing sitting at home is their preferred life style.

JoeFritzl · 20-03-2020 11:36AM

joeguevara wrote: »

It isn’t. Also very low deaths. Testament to our frontline medics. But we were low on actual tests and laboratories didn’t get results back quickly. Don’t be thinking that we don’t have a high positive amount that haven’t been tested.

By that logic the efforts we are making now won't change the "curve" until the results begin coming back in a few more days.

So the curve has already been flattened now.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

Akrasia wrote: »

how could there possibly be evidence of this when the virus has only existed for about 5 months?

There is evidence that the coronavirus is not prone to rapid mutation and therefore there is a good reason to believe that once your immune system has learned how to fight this virus, that it will be at least partially immune to it later on.
We know that similar viruses like SARS and MERS are mostly once off events that can lead to immunity

There is a chance that it can be persistant, like herps, but we have no way of knowing yet.
There isn't any evidence that the virus can remain dormant in the human system like the Herpes virus, so there is no point in speculating that it does.

There is limited evidence that monkeys show immunity. But the test is too small (19) and nothing can be extrapolated. It is heartening to those who recovered but no way would I take the risk so early needlessly.
https://www.livescience.com/monkeys-cannot-get-reinfected-with-coronavirus-study.html

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/flsoeu/the_new_normal_good_article_from_mit_technology/
The new normal..
Study from MIT estimates that social distancing and school closures would need to be implemented two months on and one month off for a period of 18 months until the vaccine is deployed.

Get Real · 20-03-2020 11:38AM

Mr.S wrote: »

How does that work in France / Italy / Spain - you are allowed out to go shopping, if stopped, can you not just say you are going shopping?

You get a designated time to go shopping. You fill out a card of when you left the house.

*If* you're stopped, and you don't have it filled for that day, fine. If you're hours (maybe 2 but I don't know for certain) outside your alloted time, fine.

Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.france24.com/en/20200318-france-coronavirus-lockdown-violation-attestation-epidemic-christophe-castaner-public-health

Fine of 135, up to 375 euro. Presumably for repeat offenders.

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:39AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

YES he is ! Classic Trumpian distraction technique from his own obvious failures in tackling the virus

There is no logic to finding countries to blame for pandemics, just like that despicable orange idiot in the white house and some here.

If Trumps logic is followed we may have to rename the 1918 (H1N1) 'Spanish' flu pandemic (the deadliest pandemic in history so far) 'The USA Virus' or 'The Kansas Virus'. It killed an estimated 50 - 100 million people.

Using the same logic...the USA did not learn... they also 'caused' the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) pandemic, infecting 31,000 people with 1,900 deaths. Yeaa let's call that one 'The USA2 Virus' or 'The California Virus'.

A two-year-old boy called Emile Ouamouno from Guinea in Africa became infected with Ebola virus by playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of bats. He infected his mother and sister and sadly all three died.

That started the recent (2013) Ebola epidemic infecting 28,616 people with 11,310 deaths.

Are you going blame the dead toddler ?

Are you going to punish the country of Guinea for this ?

The jump of animal bugs to humans could happen anywhere (including Ireland). Trying to find someone or some country to blame is a total waste of time and energy.

It’s just a matter of chance or bad luck.

Sh*t happens.

But this one did start in China ,

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 11:39AM

Gods Gift · 20-03-2020 11:39AM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Car stopped and 3 men arrested on the M7 this morning after been caught transporting bog roll with an estimated street value of €800k.

jmayo · 20-03-2020 11:40AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Give over !!!

This pandemic is far more serious than your silly knocking the public service rant.

Things might be a lot better now if the Neoliberal agenda of ‘low tax’, 'privatization', ‘deregulation’ and ‘small government’ had not caused a chronic under-funding of our public health services. We might even have a hospital bed ratio comparable to our European neighbors.

This kind of debate is for another time... Fighting against the virus spread is all that matters now.

Actually politicians are always blamed because they are the public face and meant to be in charge, but for anyone old enough to remember Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister they might have remembered how the British system and it's Irish descendant means that the civil servants are the permanent government and they can make life very difficult for politicians that actually want to clean up the system.
They are also the most heavily unionised workforce.

The old chestnut about proper funding for our health service is always thrown out, but we have one of the best funded per capita health services in the world.
It is just that a lot of it is wasted on irrelevant staff and irrelevant spending.

Currently you have situation where spending is going on non covid related items simply because certain departments have it and want to spend it because they won't get same amount next year.
There is no real rational where if an amount is not spent it is sent back to central pot or can be temporarily diverted.

One area that is chronically underfunded is our security services, be it Garda or defence forces.
And that is down to both civil servants and politicians.
The public who would have an outcry if any politician said they were spending millions more on defence forces and we would hear was about hospital trolleys, homeless, etc.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Bu he's not actually wrong blaming China is he

But he is right, it is down to China and the fact they want to eat every fecking thing that walks, crawls, swims or flies.

EDIT: Oh and a lot of endangered species are also down to them and their neighbours who have a fooked up mindset that thinks such shyte as a leopards penis or seahorse can give your a hardon.

Akrasia wrote: »

There are doctors and nurses and support staff going to work today to care for others knowing that they are putting their own lives at risk.

There are selfish people, but to say 'Humanity' is selfish is insulting to these people.

Not alone health care, but staff in supermarkets, pharmacies are putting themselves out there facing the public at reasonably close quarters every day.

kona · 20-03-2020 11:41AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

YES he is ! Classic Trumpian distraction technique from his own obvious failures in tackling the virus

There is no logic to finding countries to blame for pandemics, just like that despicable orange idiot in the white house and some here.

If Trumps logic is followed we may have to rename the 1918 (H1N1) 'Spanish' flu pandemic (the deadliest pandemic in history so far) 'The USA Virus' or 'The Kansas Virus'. It killed an estimated 50 - 100 million people.

Using the same logic...the USA did not learn... they also 'caused' the 2009 influenza A (H1N1) pandemic, infecting 31,000 people with 1,900 deaths. Yeaa let's call that one 'The USA2 Virus' or 'The California Virus'.

A two-year-old boy called Emile Ouamouno from Guinea in Africa became infected with Ebola virus by playing in a hollow tree housing a colony of bats. He infected his mother and sister and sadly all three died.

That started the recent (2013) Ebola epidemic infecting 28,616 people with 11,310 deaths.

Are you going blame the dead toddler ?

Are you going to punish the country of Guinea for this ?

The jump of animal bugs to humans could happen anywhere (including Ireland). Trying to find someone or some country to blame is a total waste of time and energy.

It’s just a matter of chance or bad luck.

Sh*t happens.

The virus originated in a wet market in china. Because they still practice a bunch of 3rd world nasty **** and eat bats , dogs, cats, rats, mice etc...

Not the same as some young lad messing about like any other young lad.

When this is all under control I hope china properly held accountable.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 11:41AM

JoeFritzl wrote: »

To be honest 500 cases isn't really that much.

How about 4 million or more cases which is what we could be looking at before too long?

sheepsh4gger · 20-03-2020 11:42AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Car stopped and 3 men arrested on the M7 this morning after been caught transporting bog roll with an estimated street value of €800k.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:43AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

How about 4 million or more cases which is what we could be looking at before too long?

That's 80% of the population here.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 11:43AM

JoeFritzl wrote: »

By that logic the efforts we are making now won't change the "curve" until the results begin coming back in a few more days.

So the curve has already been flattened now.

Flattening the curve is slowing the spread. If we don’t know the actual amount of people, it can’t be assumed that the spread is slow as the figures aren’t there, what we know is that the hospitals aren’t flooded and the death rate is low. But all other countries experienced similar. Also what is clear that when people stopped the social distancing it boomed. I think talking about flattening curve, while may lower anxiety may have a disastrous effect. I don’t know what to think but I’m not going to take risks.

smelly sock · 20-03-2020 11:44AM

Ah the Chinese.

Their data and numbers are faked.

They introduced this to the world and the same will happen again with their practices in wet markets.

Any info on human rights violations they imposed to get their numbers "down"?

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:44AM

Blazer wrote: »

There’s a time and a place for it afterwards to stop this from happening again.
As stated already last week it was Europe’s fault and a Democrat hoax and now that he’s realised that he’s really screwed up this time he needs a new scapegoat.
Trump and Johnson has shown what kind of special idiots they really are this week. They’re lucky their supporters are even stupider than they are otherwise they’d be turfed out of office pronto.

China blamed it on US soldiers ,
So he said no this started in China
He said in the interview he wouldn't say they where not to blame but it 100% started there which is correct , If Obama said the same people would agree because it came out of Donald's mouth people won't agree,

Its ok not to like someone or not agree with everything they say but also find some things they say to be correct ,

otnomart · 20-03-2020 11:45AM

Ferrari is getting ready for production of ventilators in Maranello, Italy
https://www.fanpage.it/sport/coronavirus-la-ferrari-pronta-a-produrre-ventilatori-e-respiratori-a-maranello/

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 11:45AM

jamesf85 wrote: »

I genuinely can't understand how/why people are hung up on how many infected we have.

"We're on track to be worse than Italy"

Really? How many tests had Italy administered at this stage after their first positive test or their first death? How many did we test that were counted with yesterdays figures? We don't even know what days were counted in yesterdays figures.

The only important number is number of deaths and amount in ICU. ICU being the main one because it has a direct relationship with the number of deaths. Everything else is just a guessing game. The virus could be anywhere from 0.2% to 3.5% death rate in those infected, we're purely speculating with anything else.

Let's focus on the positives, our first case was weeks ago, we now have 3 deaths and 7 in ICU. This is a hell of a lot better than where Italy were at this stage.

It seems people are looking for the negatives here.

The median incubation time is 5 days. Median time from onset of symptoms to death is 20 days.

Thats a 3 week lag anyway. Just being real. We really don't know as distancing measures which are not really being respect by large parts of society only came in a week ago.

RugbyLad11 · 20-03-2020 11:46AM

Tony EH wrote: »

It's part of his propaganda effort. Gotta keep the Chinese as the new enemy in the minds of the more stupider Americans.

The rest of the world calls it the Corona virus or Covid-19. That cunt has to use his own label.

Can't say I'd care too much if it took him out at this stage. Better people have succumbed to it.

Eh the Chinese government were actually saying America released this virus into China...so the stupidness goes both ways

And the lately the Chinese media have calling the virus Italian flu and Japan flu etc

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