CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

otnomart · 20-03-2020 10:56AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Well that solves the mysterious low coronavirus death toll in Germany then

I found a more recent article also from Spiegel.
As per 5 March, 200 deaths by flu in Germany.
https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/grippe-mehr-als-200-tote-in-deutschland-a-c76d3b1f-811c-4fc4-b398-2e4f4e75d714

Germany is clearly good at treating coronavirus, has currently only 2 people in intensive care.
But not so at curing flu, it seems.

Hector Savage · 20-03-2020 10:56AM

BluePlanet wrote: »

Italy - New Daily Cases

Why isn't this leveling off yet?

apparently some doctors from Wuhan are in Italy now providing help and they went on TV to show themselves shocked that, even now, public transport is working in Italy and people organize parties in hotels - so maybe that ??

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 10:56AM

We need to introduce further "firebreaks" to slow this thing. Unfortunately the more disruptions to everyday life the more many people complain. They really don't get the seriousness of it and won't until it lands on their door. And then they will say "why didn't we do more?"

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 10:56AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Newstalk breakfast show this morning reported a memeber of the Chinese Red Cross was in Italy to advise on how they are dealing with it, he was reported to have been alarmed at the level of outdoor activity.

His advice was a lockdown means a lockdown,

People should not be going out to socialise, only if it is utterly essential.

How things are playing out in Italy would appear he is right and we need to see it here.

We're not under lockdown, yet. The Italians, Spanish and French basically ignored the early appeals for social distancing or to curb their activities. In Italy 40,000 people have been fined for breaking it. We seem to have responded better to advice despite the anecdotal stuff.

HighLine · 20-03-2020 10:56AM

When you look at how many planes are in the air right now, it's no wonder how this virus is spreading at the rate it is. (Image from https://www.flightradar24.com/40.26,-28.76/3)

Rob A. Bank · 20-03-2020 11:00AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51963486

"Years" .....F*cking YEARS.....

Jesus, seriously thinking of doing myself in at this stage ...

Steady on... Humankind has survived far worse than this pandemic.

If the predicted surge of patients can be stopped and the curve flattened enough... so that our hospitals are not overwhelmed, things will settle down. Our hospitals will be able to cope again and something like normality will return.

The longer we can wait, the better the chances of some effective treatment being discovered. All of the researchers and labs worldwide are working flat out in a collaborative way, the like of which has not been seen before. Let us hope that they will be successful.

In the meantime... social distancing... hand washing etc. https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/

Tacitus Kilgore · 20-03-2020 11:02AM

HighLine wrote: »

When you look at how many planes are in the air right now, it's no wonder how this virus is spreading at the rate it is. (Image from https://www.flightradar24.com/40.26,-28.76/3)

It's ok though, the blue ones carry cure researchers

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 11:02AM

HighLine wrote: »

When you look at how many planes are in the air right now, it's no wonder how this virus is spreading at the rate it is. (Image from https://www.flightradar24.com/40.26,-28.76/3)

WTF?? I thought air traffic in Europe was down to an absolute minimum currently, like basically flights just getting some citizens back to their home countries

TheAsYLuMkeY · 20-03-2020 11:02AM

BluePlanet wrote: »

Italy - New Daily Cases

Why isn't this leveling off yet?

Because people are still socialising outdoors is what i heard this morning on Newstalk reporting on chinese red cross opinion on Italy.

mick987 · 20-03-2020 11:03AM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

If everything you do in your house is legal, why do you have curtains on your windows?

It is legal to have sex in your house, but not in-front of a window where your neighbours can see

Blazer · 20-03-2020 11:04AM

techdiver wrote: »

Have a couple of family members in the civil service. One is in a high risk category. Many of these offices are treating it like a joke. From managers laughing off issues, to people returning from high risk travel waltzing back into the office, to the archaic IT system that won't permit them to work form home, it's an absolute joke. This is across 2 different offices in 2 different geographic locations.

Ministers are publicly stating to private sector workers to work from home and avoid contact where possible (completely correctly), but then the civil servants that work from them are not afforded the same courtesy!

Maybe you should really be blaming the civil servants rather than the TDs? After all most of the incompetence is from civil servants who basically go on strike if their tea isn’t hot, plus the whole idea of upskilling seems to have been completely misunderstood by them and they see it as a opportunity to strike for a pay rise each time.
Case in point- the cops and the pulse system:
The recent IT staff who refused to work that expensive new printer that cost 800k because they needed a pay rise to upskill.

xabi · 20-03-2020 11:04AM

jamesf85 wrote: »

I genuinely can't understand how/why people are hung up on how many infected we have.

"We're on track to be worse than Italy"

Really? How many tests had Italy administered at this stage after their first positive test or their first death? How many did we test that were counted with yesterdays figures? We don't even know what days were counted in yesterdays figures.

The only important number is number of deaths and amount in ICU. ICU being the main one because it has a direct relationship with the number of deaths. Everything else is just a guessing game. The virus could be anywhere from 0.2% to 3.5% death rate in those infected, we're purely speculating with anything else.

Let's focus on the positives, our first case was weeks ago, we now have 3 deaths and 7 in ICU. This is a hell of a lot better than where Italy were at this stage.

It seems people are looking for the negatives here.

This is similar to how I am rationalizing this in my mind, the amount of testing that's happening, or lack of, is key.

gerbilgranny · 20-03-2020 11:05AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

We need to introduce further "firebreaks" to slow this thing. Unfortunately the more disruptions to everyday life the more many people complain. They really don't get the seriousness of it and won't until it lands on their door. And then they will say "why didn't we do more?"

As an older (but not heading for a gold-standard pension) clerical officer in the public service, I would be in a position to manage if I had to take 6 weeks or so unpaid leave to help flatten the curve. The work that I do is not essential at this time. In fact I feel I'd be doing more service to the public by staying isolated to help flatten the curve.

I wish the government could introduce a voluntary-stay-at-home-with-no-pay scheme.

Hector Savage · 20-03-2020 11:06AM

Btw whats the story about that Malaria drug that Trump was going on about, I had heard about it and was hopeful, but when Trump starts valling it the cure - you know somethings wrong ...

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 11:07AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB44ZZda2G0

Roger_007 · 20-03-2020 11:09AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Steady on... Humankind has survived far worse than this pandemic.

If the predicted surge of patients can be stopped and the curve flattened enough... so that our hospitals are not overwhelmed, things will settle down. Our hospitals will be able to cope again and something like normality will return.

The longer we can wait, the better the chances of some effective treatment being discovered. All of the researchers and labs worldwide are working flat out in a collaborative way, the like of which has not been seen before. Let us hope that they will be successful.

In the meantime... social distancing... hand washing etc. https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/

I think we can learn some lessons from the aftermath of the 1918 flu pandemic. It was quickly followed by the Roaring Twenties. Humankind seems to have a great capacity to put bad times behind them and move on with renewed zest for life.

skellig_rocks · 20-03-2020 11:09AM

wakka12 wrote: »

WTF?? I thought air traffic in Europe was down to an absolute minimum currently, like basically flights just getting some citizens back to their home countries

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-airlines-run-empty-ghost-flights-planes-passengers-outbreak-covid-2020-3?op=1&r=US&IR=T

Also a lot of them would be cargo planes.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:09AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Btw whats the story about that Malaria drug that Trump was going on about, I had heard about it and was hopeful, but when Trump starts valling it the cure - you know somethings wrong ...

Trump as usual spoofing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-drugs-chloroquine.html

yourdeadwright · 20-03-2020 11:10AM

Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

Longing · 20-03-2020 11:10AM

@Kermit.de.frog When this is all over there is one thing which will stand out to me. That is how selfish humanity is.

TheAsYLuMkeY · 20-03-2020 11:10AM

I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

we would see massive compliance then.

scamalert · 20-03-2020 11:11AM

few degrees up and kids are out and about, this crap isnt working, its hilarious how some describe their activities as if going outdoors they are going into radiation zone or something, lots of mild case flu going around, numbers dont matter if we all need eventually to get it. cant see this last past end of this month, the dole offices are probabbly burried by people on the dole, if hse got equipment ready and are prepared enough this should end by the month and back to usual, can't see with temperatures going up that anyone will stay in doors much longer, given good few months this been out here, its safe to assume many are infected or have been, but aside critical or dead, its pointless to go with daily updates, as its not spreading here like anywhere else so safe to assume many are ok.

citytillidie · 20-03-2020 11:11AM

wakka12 wrote: »

WTF?? I thought air traffic in Europe was down to an absolute minimum currently, like basically flights just getting some citizens back to their home countries

Ghost planes so airlines don’t lose their slots in airports I was to fly yesterday to Canada, got text and email on what gate to go to and such so I am guess the flight still went ahead

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 11:11AM

HighLine wrote: »

When you look at how many planes are in the air right now, it's no wonder how this virus is spreading at the rate it is. (Image from https://www.flightradar24.com/40.26,-28.76/3)

Imagine what it's like when most of the fleet isn't grounded.

ZX7R · 20-03-2020 11:12AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

we would see massive compliance then.

Not just energy payment , all payments across the board

Thelonious Monk · 20-03-2020 11:12AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'd say it's more to do with it costing them more (lights, heating, wages) than they are making per day.

Hopefully people realise they don't need to buy throwaway clothes from Penney's every 5 minutes. It's one of the biggest polluters in the world, this kind of fast fashion. Funny how we'd all be fine with the clothes we have for years if we couldn't buy any.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 11:13AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

we would see massive compliance then.

An awful lot of people are WFH(working from home), so that would have no real effect. There is forced isolation built into the new legislation, if required.

Blazer · 20-03-2020 11:14AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

It’s called Covid-19 or Coronavirus. Not bloody Chinese virus.
Trump is just disingenuous by diverting his moronic supporters low iq to blaming China instead of his complete failure to react in time to prevent it from getting worse.

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 11:14AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

In all honesty I don’t care what he calls it. However he is using it as a ploy to deflect from the fact he blatantly lied from the beginning and allowed his braggadocio to get in the way actually facing reality.

Also it is causing Asians to be attacked. Most bizarre is a Brazilian girl getting abuse and assaulted by a guy on the Luas because she looks Chinese. What he calls it is irrelevant. What happens after isn’t.

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 11:14AM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I think we can learn some lessons from the aftermath of the 1918 flu pandemic. It was quickly followed by the Roaring Twenties.

...and barely ten years later we had the most devastating economic crash the world has ever seen.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP