CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

Wrex wrote: »

So these seems to be some optimism about drugs that have been trialed recently such as Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine .

Could these types of drugs if proved successful for treating the virus , be a quick fix to the crisis we are in? Or, even if proved effective and supplied to people, we are still looking at weeks or months as we are?

Depends on what manufacturing capacity is like for these drugs.

Theres trails for an antiviral developed for Ebola. If it works theres no factory to build it so one would need to be repurposed.

Theres two arthritis drugs being trialled too. Both are biopharmaceutical so need highly specialised bio reactors in production.

It's not easy to ramp up. If it works do you just say sorry love **** your arthritis we need your drugs for something else.

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Lads I just think this deserves sharing. A team in Galway are currently trying to design an easily built and put together ventilator which can be rapidly built and deployed. It's to be an open source device so anyone or any nation will be free to use the designs to make their own. Non profit

Saw it in the journal this morning

https://www.thejournal.ie/emergency-ventilators-ireland-5051956-Mar2020/

They currently have about 36k of the 50k needed, just said I'd share it

https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-breathing-fund-emergency-covid19-ventilators

Truly hope these guys are genuine but I'm almost always immediately suspicious of gofundme campaigns that require funding for projects that capture the zeitgeist..

Akrasia wrote: »

If you can’t remember your source then all you’re doing is spreading gossip on the internet. Do you want to be ‘that’ person?

Have you seen the volumes of scientific studies so far on this virus. I have never seen so many about one topic. All data so far is very preliminary. All I did is point out that children may not be the primary carriers of this disease. Another study with more numbers could show that they are. A lot of people have decided that children are the problem when the safest thing to do is act as if everyone is a carrier.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The expert WHO China group found the same thing.
It was not so much of children spreading to adults, more of adults spreading to the children.
But early days yet with this virus... a lot more study is needed to clear up the many unknowns.

Afaik the expert group findings were based on observations during their brief visit to China.

The quoted article beliw cites four different sources including findings from a large scale Chinese study

In a new study published in the journal Pediatrics, researches studied a group of 2,143 cases of children with suspected or confirmed COVID-19, which were reported by the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention between Jan. 16 and Feb. 8.

They found that more than 90 percent of the cases in children had no symptoms, or with mild or moderate illness. However, approximately 6 percent of the coronavirus cases in children were severe or critical. In comparison, 18.5 percent were critical in adults.

Mild cases, which are 52 percent of the participants, had symptoms most often seen in children with flu, including fever, sore throat, fatigue, and cough. Some mild cases had digestive symptoms such as diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pain.

Moderate cases, which account for 39 percent of all cases, led to pneumonia, causing fever and cough. However, in these cases, children do not experience shortness of breath. In severe cases, which accounts for 5 percent of the sample, had severe respiratory problems. Some of the severe cases progressed to severe conditions, requiring critical care.

https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20200319/Some-children-may-become-seriously-ill-with-coronavirus-experts-warn.aspx

It also detailed that many children who were infected appeared asymptomatic

Tbh there seems to a lot of rubbish on social media content that children cannot get or cannot spread the corona virus.

In the face of the above - why would anyone risk their children or others health?

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'd say it's more to do with it costing them more (lights, heating, wages) than they are making per day.

Or because everyone will get by for the next couple of months with the Tshirts and shoes they have.

wonder would the government have had a polite word in their ear and asked them to cease trading based on that.

Mallory Rich Salad wrote: »

I have a very long-shift ahead of me today. The neighbours threw a massive party. It is bloody frustrating to be woken in the middle of the night.

I hope this post in tongue in cheek. If not, I would have phoned the guards to clear the place out, they would have done it too, I’d say, completely irresponsible and selfish people.

Was talking to a taxi driver in Tralee yesterday, was on about people having house parties, he got a call for a pick up at a house last weekend when he arrived he saw that there was a house party taking place so he turned the car and left again.

Akrasia wrote: »

3 out of 10

That was at least an 8 and you are in a mood because you weren’t invited to the house party

So I know 2 people in the UK with the virus. Or at least we think it's the virus but because of their testing policy it's hard to tell.

First one is my friend's sister who's housemate tested positive. Early 20's and both described it as feeling like a bad cold, harsh cough and tightness of chest. Neither really had a fever.

Second is a friend of mine who had spent some time with someone who later tested positive. He's in his late 30's but in good shape. He said it came on like a cold, then the fever hit and it was tough, not the worst fever he's had but tough enough. He's been exhausted for days but over the fever and at the minute has the cough and chest tightness. He sounds a little funny, hoarse but not the usual hoarse you'd associate with a phlegmy cold, crackly like a dry throat or something. He was saying he could see why this causes issues with elderly and those with underlying conditions. He reckons if you've got asthma this could be tough going. Basically it feels familiar and alien at the same time.

It's interesting to hear from people who have had it, or at lest believe they have. Chest tightness seems to be a common symptom. It's a shame the UK aren't really actively testing as there could be valuable data and information gained form doing so.

A message for the braindead zoomers/millennials who are in the "I'm all right Jack" camp at 00:30 in this video.



The CDC figures for the early admissions to hospital in the USA should concern them.

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A message for the braindead zoomers/millennials who are in the "I'm all right Jack" camp at 00:30 in this video.

The CDC figures for the early admissions to hospital in the USA should concern them.

I am conflicted about younger people putting themselves at risk. On the one hand I am concerned about them passing it on to higher risk or being left with long term damage but on the other hand the more people who recover and their blood tested, the quicker we get a vaccine or effective treatment.