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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3632
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    martin101 wrote: »
    I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

    I dont know if your stuck at home, a book wouldn't be the worst thing to have. They will be closed soon anyway.


  • #3633
    Steve F
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭Steve F


    gmisk wrote: »
    The WHO say it isn't who would you believe?

    Bugger!!!:mad:


  • #3634
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    Not much good if it costs 4K to get tested.

    But you could buy a nice AK47


  • #3635
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,122 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    MM loves his jazz hands.


  • #3636
    Beanybabog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    timhenn wrote: »
    What town were you in? I've heard Dublin is almost deserted!

    I was around temple bar area. Usually very busy, not dead today but more like 5am all day


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  • #3637
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    martin101 wrote: »
    No think your wrong, me and a few of my friends want a lockdown. Some of us have elderly family that we care about and don't want to see die. Nothing to do with being a loner and just want a lockdown for the sake of it. Problem with people these days is "I'm ok so fxxk the rest of yous" lovely attitude

    I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
    The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

    I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!


  • #3638
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    You are contradicting yourself.

    There is no benefit but health workers need them to stop getting sick.

    Do you actually listen to yourself? Have you ever had to apply critical thinking skills to understand something?

    HSE said.....

    They said it was low risk
    They now advise doctors it can last in the air for up to 3 hours after someone coughs. Imagine that in a supermarket. Do you think you won't get it cause the HSE said so?. Good luck
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Give it over, healthcare workers are in contact for much longer periods and require ppe including masks, that's a no brainer. Read the previous posts.

    The general public walking around outside do not need to wear one as the risk of contracting is considered low.

    Theres a difference between a 12 hour plus shift in an isolation ward and a walk down the road.

    Thats the point. And yes my job involves highly critical thinking. You have a great night now.


    Didn't answer the question. This important because we are talking about a physical phenomenon. Can you breath in a virus? Yes. Can you wear a mask to prevent yourself breathing in said pathogen. Yes.

    But don't wear a mask because you don't need one. It's the same argument as the people who say too many kids go to University. When asked do their kids go to university, they respond yes.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces
    We found that viable virus
    36 could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on
    37 cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf


  • #3639
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Steve F wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Steve F View Post
    What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?


    Trump thinks it is the answer


    And what do other people think?

    Who knows. Different countries are pinning their hopes on different treatments. There’s one from Cuba, another is than redevemsir that worked for Ebola. It’s a case of needs must, if it works great.


  • #3640
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Testing everyone. Anyone who is positive is swiftly isolated and their contacts traced. They have apps that let them know exactly where the person has been. People are notified if they have been exposed and told to self isolate. At least that's how South Korea are keeping on top of it and supposedly china too
    But are they testing the whole 1.3 billion. Some hole has to happen somewhere. Does it not take a cluster to happen and then go out of control again? I'd imagine some people don't have these apps on their phones.


  • #3641
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    martin101 wrote: »
    I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

    Especially as they have a significant online presence.


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  • #3642
    KevinK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    My grandmother has been doing a great job of isolating for the last week, but tomorrow is pension day and she really wants to go and get the pension.

    I see on citizens information that she can appoint me as a temporary agent but this is only for three weeks Or alternatively as a full time agent but we only want something for a few weeks, have there been any temporary arrangements for this..


  • #3643
    martin101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I think a lot of places that are only closing now (Penney's, Ikea, etc.) are doing so because they're exhausting their stock levels, rather than because they've suddenly grown a heart for their employees. :(

    My friend works in easons and he told me it was really busy today. Upper management (who are working from home) are delighted with all the profits over the last week. Sure that's all that matters.pure greed


  • #3644
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,579 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The Chinese DID NOT self isolate people in their homes who were infected, they used Hotels, to house the infected who did not need medical care.
    Self isolating with family is the biggest mistake the West is making in all of this. Government should be commandeering all these closed hotels to house the infected, need to follow the China Blueprint, at the moment the West are cutting corners.


  • #3645
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    fritzelly wrote: »
    One of the shortest but most accurate answers to any question ever on boards

    No


  • #3646
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    I wonder if Dr. Mike Ryan of the WHO is giving any further advice to the Irish government?


  • #3647
    martin101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    begbysback wrote: »
    Maybe not, but it means somebody there still has a job at the moment, and its doing no harm.

    Yeah as long as the crowds keep coming in and people are in jobs. Good stuff


  • #3648
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bb12 wrote: »
    saw this guy on itv news...he's an english nurse working in bergamo

    https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-19/coronavirus-patients-in-italy-treated-as-numbers-as-death-toll-hit-nearly-3-000/


    "And there are no relatives, like it’s complete isolation.
    So for most of the patients that arrive, most of them see their families once when the ambulance goes to pick them up and there’s no contact, even until the moment of their death and their funeral."

    A couple of studies are indicating an unfortunate double whammy in the worst effected Italian regions. Not only is the larger number of older people a factor, but also alot of 18-34 year olds are living in the same house as these people. People with very mild or no symptoms are giving the virus to their unfortunate older relatives. Hopefully the Irish tradition of want to ‘flee the nest’ might help here.


  • #3649
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    So I haven't been out for 5 days - are people wearing masks now?

    only the paranoid schizophrenics


    Or the people who are immuno-compromised.

    I have a very good friend that has been wearing them when out and about for about a year now.


  • #3650
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Steve F wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Steve F View Post
    What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?


    Trump thinks it is the answer


    And what do other people think?

    Seems to be conflicting reports, theres a video of an Italian doctor talking about using it with other drugs and having small bits of success, then theres a french doctor reported to have 100% success rate with it, though with a small sample set of 40 - if Im reading correctly its already available for malaria, but the FDA wont approve it for corona, so most doctors seem to be using it as treatment unofficially which means the reporting of its success may be off.


  • #3651
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    The Chinese DID NOT self isolate people in their homes who were infected, they used Hotels, to house the infected who did not need medical care.
    Self isolating with family is the biggest mistake the West is making in all of this. Government should be commandeering all these closed hotels to house the infected, need to follow the China Blueprint, at the moment the West are cutting corners.

    It does seem to stretch credulity that anyone self isolating for two weeks in the same house as their family wouldn't pass it on even with strict measures.


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  • #3652
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    But you could buy a nice AK47
    $500-2000, depending on model, you assume full responsible for all import cost in conformity with local regs.


  • #3653
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,923 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The Chinese seem to have a particularly callous disregard for animal welfare. I seen two videos today from China on twitter that shocked me to the core. One was a dog in what looked like a large wok, the dog was being boiled alive and basted at the same time in a shallow enough liquid. The other was even worse a poor dog strung up by a wire still alive while a man was blow-torching it. It was black from head to toe and he seemed to spend a sinister amount of time blow torching its face. The dog was still alive. I was so repulsed i had to go for a walk to get my head around what i had just seen.

    Europe is not anywhere near the level of depraved animal treatment you see in China. I'm not sure there is anywhere on earth that would come close to them.

    They really need to be held to account for their treatment of animals and their disgusting wet markets. Just look where we are now with this virus because of their treatment of animals.

    That sort of behavior serves to brutalise people.


  • #3654
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Their is people all over monaghan still waiting to be tested, here in carrickmacross their was 30people referred for testing on monday and their still waiting to be tested, acting as if it isnt here, putting it out their is 0 confirmed cases.
    Bloody test the people for real numbers!!


  • #3655
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
    The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

    I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!

    It's a tough time. Completely agree with you and wishing you and your parents the best. Keep safe.


  • #3656
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    The Chinese DID NOT self isolate people in their homes who were infected, they used Hotels, to house the infected who did not need medical care.
    Self isolating with family is the biggest mistake the West is making in all of this. Government should be commandeering all these closed hotels to house the infected, need to follow the China Blueprint, at the moment the West are cutting corners.
    thats happening now , I heard today some hotels in the city are been taken. This was by someone who worked in one that has been booked.


  • #3657
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    KevinK wrote: »
    My grandmother has been doing a great job of isolating for the last week, but tomorrow is pension day and she really wants to go and get the pension.

    I see on citizens information that she can appoint me as a temporary agent but this is only for three weeks Or alternatively as a full time agent but we only want something for a few weeks, have there been any temporary arrangements for this..

    Pensioners have a very odd obsession with physical cash which could prove fatal at the moment. Many seem clueless that you can use your bank card in a shop. They insist on withdrawing cash from an atm, bringing it to the shop and getting the change.

    Maybe this virus is a further kickstart to an exclusively cashless society.


  • #3658
    john_doe.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
    The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

    I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!

    Did she go back to work to help out ?
    At that age , very brave !


  • #3659
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    martin101 wrote: »
    Yeah as long as the crowds keep coming in and people are in jobs. Good stuff

    It is possible to social distance and still shop. A complete lockdown is not yet required, what is required is mass testing and social distancing.


  • #3660
    martin101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭martin101


    niallo27 wrote: »
    I dont know if your stuck at home, a book wouldn't be the worst thing to have. They will be closed soon anyway.

    No I've to go to work unfortunately. But I'd rather be stuck at home than risking my health each day being around loads of people. But I've to go to work to pay the bills.


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  • #3661
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,923 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    I wonder if Dr. Mike Ryan of the WHO is giving any further advice to the Irish government?

    I'd say he is very busy but I'm sure he'd respond to a request for info. from our government.


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