CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

bekker · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The Chinese seem to have a particularly callous disregard for animal welfare. I seen two videos today from China on twitter that shocked me to the core. One was a dog in what looked like a large wok, the dog was being boiled alive and basted at the same time in a shallow enough liquid. The other was even worse a poor dog strung up by a wire still alive while a man was blow-torching it. It was black from head to toe and he seemed to spend a sinister amount of time blow torching its face. The dog was still alive. I was so repulsed i had to go for a walk to get my head around what i had just seen.

Europe is not anywhere near the level of depraved animal treatment you see in China. I'm not sure there is anywhere on earth that would come close to them.

They really need to be held to account for their treatment of animals and their disgusting wet markets. Just look where we are now with this virus because of their treatment of animals.

Total non-sequitur at the end.

Thelonious Monk · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Michael Martin fills me with no confidence.

I wish he'd just go away

theguzman · 19-03-2020 10:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The Chinese seem to have a particularly callous disregard for animal welfare. I seen two videos today from China on twitter that shocked me to the core. One was a dog in what looked like a large wok, the dog was being boiled alive and basted at the same time in a shallow enough liquid. The other was even worse a poor dog strung up by a wire still alive while a man was blow-torching it. It was black from head to toe and he seemed to spend a sinister amount of time blow torching its face. The dog was still alive. I was so repulsed i had to go for a walk to get my head around what i had just seen.

Europe is not anywhere near the level of depraved animal treatment you see in China. I'm not sure there is anywhere on earth that would come close to them.

They really need to be held to account for their treatment of animals and their disgusting wet markets. Just look where we are now with this virus because of their treatment of animals.

After all this there needs to be a total trade embargo on China think 10,000% tarrifs, don't buy their products, use US and European power to destroy their economy, bankrupt them and then start arming their nationalists to overthrow the Communists there. They have destroyed the world economy and are a dictatorship like Hitler hell bent on total global domination.

ceadaoin. · 19-03-2020 10:37PM

Monkeynut wrote: »

This is what i don't get. If everything is getting back to normal. How is it not snowballing again?

Testing everyone. Anyone who is positive is swiftly isolated and their contacts traced. They have apps that let them know exactly where the person has been. People are notified if they have been exposed and told to self isolate. At least that's how South Korea are keeping on top of it and supposedly china too

tikkahunter · 19-03-2020 10:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Think I read somewhere that trump wants to give all the Americans 1k.

Not much good if it costs 4K to get tested.

martin101 · 19-03-2020 10:38PM

niallo27 wrote: »

That's not correct, there has to be a balance though. I have vulnerable family but I dont want a complete lockdown. I think what we have in place now is enough for now.

I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

JP Liz V1 · 19-03-2020 10:38PM

Steve F wrote: »

What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?

Trump thinks it is the answer

Jinglejangle69 · 19-03-2020 10:38PM

Michael forgets he is still basically in government.

He never stops rambling and getting nowhere.

BorneTobyWilde · 19-03-2020 10:38PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

There is a company from Derby who's test diagnoses in 10

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8118165/British-company-claims-created-coronavirus-test-detect-COVID-19-ten-minutes.html

https://streamable.com/rbfa9

Hobgoblin11 · 19-03-2020 10:39PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

So I haven't been out for 5 days - are people wearing masks now?

only the paranoid schizophrenics

Steve F · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

Originally Posted by Steve F View Post
What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?

Trump thinks it is the answer

And what do other people think?

bb12 · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

saw this guy on itv news...he's an english nurse working in bergamo

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-19/coronavirus-patients-in-italy-treated-as-numbers-as-death-toll-hit-nearly-3-000/

"And there are no relatives, like it’s complete isolation.
So for most of the patients that arrive, most of them see their families once when the ambulance goes to pick them up and there’s no contact, even until the moment of their death and their funeral."

gmisk · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Trump thinks it is the answer

The WHO say it isn't who would you believe?

19-03-2020 10:40PM

martin101 wrote: »

I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

I think a lot of places that are only closing now (Penney's, Ikea, etc.) are doing so because they're exhausting their stock levels, rather than because they've suddenly grown a heart for their employees.

begbysback · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

martin101 wrote: »

I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

Maybe not, but it means somebody there still has a job at the moment, and its doing no harm.

Call Me Jimmy · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

Route1 wrote: »

What’s the logic in not going into lockdown here?

The logic everywhere seems to be 'wait for the direct evidence (confirmed cases) to get to a point where it is so bad that we don't have any other choice'. I completely get the economic problem but even China said '**** the economy for a minute'. Then there was the outliers, imo, South Korea.

I've been watching South Korea every day. I said a few weeks back that they would definitely shut down their economy (back before many countries started doing it) and I was wrong. Testing and extremely transparent information regarding confirmed cases appears to have outsourced some of the processing to individuals and it's absolutely not a success yet but it has been very promising. Taiwan on the other hand, very quick containment. You have to choose something extreme, early. Not slow-roll into full lockdown over many weeks.

Regarding asian countries extreme transparency regarding locational data: From a psychological perspective I think it would make sense (given that European countries have a problem with the public copping on) to publish specific locational data. Wouldn't it make people a bit more alert a bit earlier to know it's right on their doorstep? The opposing argument is that it makes others complacent, but I don't think it'd make people more complacent than they would be just knowing the County. All I know is it seems to be a component in the more 'successful' countries.

Atlantic Dawn · 19-03-2020 10:40PM

Leaving and Junior certs certainly will not be going ahead this year in June.

New Home · 19-03-2020 10:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

It's not a soft, painless death at all. If you've never seen anyone gasping, starving for air, count yourself lucky. It's a horrible way to go. So is septic shock and kidney failure.

niallo27 · 19-03-2020 10:41PM

martin101 wrote: »

I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

I dont know if your stuck at home, a book wouldn't be the worst thing to have. They will be closed soon anyway.

Steve F · 19-03-2020 10:41PM

gmisk wrote: »

The WHO say it isn't who would you believe?

Bugger!!!:mad:

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 10:41PM

tikkahunter wrote: »

Not much good if it costs 4K to get tested.

But you could buy a nice AK47

Jinglejangle69 · 19-03-2020 10:41PM

MM loves his jazz hands.

Beanybabog · 19-03-2020 10:42PM

timhenn wrote: »

What town were you in? I've heard Dublin is almost deserted!

I was around temple bar area. Usually very busy, not dead today but more like 5am all day

Corkgirl20 · 19-03-2020 10:42PM

martin101 wrote: »

No think your wrong, me and a few of my friends want a lockdown. Some of us have elderly family that we care about and don't want to see die. Nothing to do with being a loner and just want a lockdown for the sake of it. Problem with people these days is "I'm ok so fxxk the rest of yous" lovely attitude

I would also like a lockdown. My 66 year old mum is a retired nurse who went back to work for the hospital this week on request. She’s so petrified of contacting it and not knowing and then passing it onto my dad, she’s sleeping in a separate room to him. She doesn’t leave the house only to go to work. I’m a teacher so off work and able to run all the errands for them. But it pains me to see how careful she is being and risking a lot ( she’s not young the virus may not be so kind if she contracts it). I was driving through my town this evening and I saw a group of about 10-12 teens hanging out and it angered me. Then I saw someone had posed about it on the town Facebook page and some parents were writing back asking what the issue was and for people to calm down.
The issue is these teens will go home and pass it onto family members who may end up in hospital , taking up hospital beds when it could have been prevented if they just told their kids to stay in for a matter of weeks. It’s not forever , kids have phones and TV’s , they can go for walks and ride their bikes. They won’t die from a bit of social distancing and it may save the lives of others.

I know this rant doesn’t apply to most parents are doing an excellent job keeping their kids away from groups. I applaud those who are doing this !!

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 10:42PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

You are contradicting yourself.

There is no benefit but health workers need them to stop getting sick.

Do you actually listen to yourself? Have you ever had to apply critical thinking skills to understand something?

HSE said.....

They said it was low risk
They now advise doctors it can last in the air for up to 3 hours after someone coughs. Imagine that in a supermarket. Do you think you won't get it cause the HSE said so?. Good luck

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Give it over, healthcare workers are in contact for much longer periods and require ppe including masks, that's a no brainer. Read the previous posts.

The general public walking around outside do not need to wear one as the risk of contracting is considered low.

Theres a difference between a 12 hour plus shift in an isolation ward and a walk down the road.

Thats the point. And yes my job involves highly critical thinking. You have a great night now.

Didn't answer the question. This important because we are talking about a physical phenomenon. Can you breath in a virus? Yes. Can you wear a mask to prevent yourself breathing in said pathogen. Yes.

But don't wear a mask because you don't need one. It's the same argument as the people who say too many kids go to University. When asked do their kids go to university, they respond yes.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces

We found that viable virus
36 could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on
37 cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

screamer · 19-03-2020 10:42PM

Steve F wrote: »

Originally Posted by Steve F View Post
What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?

Trump thinks it is the answer

And what do other people think?

Who knows. Different countries are pinning their hopes on different treatments. There’s one from Cuba, another is than redevemsir that worked for Ebola. It’s a case of needs must, if it works great.

Monkeynut · 19-03-2020 10:42PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Testing everyone. Anyone who is positive is swiftly isolated and their contacts traced. They have apps that let them know exactly where the person has been. People are notified if they have been exposed and told to self isolate. At least that's how South Korea are keeping on top of it and supposedly china too

But are they testing the whole 1.3 billion. Some hole has to happen somewhere. Does it not take a cluster to happen and then go out of control again? I'd imagine some people don't have these apps on their phones.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 10:43PM

martin101 wrote: »

I don't agree. Likes of easons still open. Hardly an essential place that needs to be still open

Especially as they have a significant online presence.

KevinK · 19-03-2020 10:43PM

My grandmother has been doing a great job of isolating for the last week, but tomorrow is pension day and she really wants to go and get the pension.

I see on citizens information that she can appoint me as a temporary agent but this is only for three weeks Or alternatively as a full time agent but we only want something for a few weeks, have there been any temporary arrangements for this..

martin101 · 19-03-2020 10:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think a lot of places that are only closing now (Penney's, Ikea, etc.) are doing so because they're exhausting their stock levels, rather than because they've suddenly grown a heart for their employees.

My friend works in easons and he told me it was really busy today. Upper management (who are working from home) are delighted with all the profits over the last week. Sure that's all that matters.pure greed

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP