CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Route1 · 19-03-2020 10:20PM

begbysback wrote: »

relax - we've had 3 deaths, kids in blanchardstown and finglas have a higher kill rate this year

Why not take preventive measures, would it not be a reasonable idea to try avoid a scenario like in Italy or Spain?

igCorcaigh · 19-03-2020 10:20PM

billyhead wrote: »

It will soon hit people hard that are not obeying the distancing rules when a loved one is on a ventilator in ICU.

Exactly.

Strazdas · 19-03-2020 10:20PM

Route1 wrote: »

Just go into lockdown for **** sake

If you go too soon with this, how do you get back out of it? The govt have to be really careful here......people would not accept a six week lockdown, their mental health would really start to suffer.

19-03-2020 10:21PM

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 10:21PM

billyhead wrote: »

It will soon hit people hard that are not obeying the distancing rules when a loved one is on a ventilator in ICU.

Even then a lot of people won't put 2 and 2 together.

Sometimes you have to spoonfeed people truths like this before they get it.

martin101 · 19-03-2020 10:22PM

begbysback wrote: »

relax - we've had 3 deaths, kids in blanchardstown and finglas have a higher kill rate this year

Hope your still saying that this time two weeks. Why not do it now before it gets totally out of hand? Ah sure it be grand eh?

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 10:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Ok believe what you want.

Those countries have worn masks for years due to air quality and pollution.

But fire away wear a mask, they offer no additional support to someone walking around a street if your not ill.

Again theres no proven benefit,

You are contradicting yourself.

There is no benefit but health workers need them to stop getting sick.

Do you actually listen to yourself? Have you ever had to apply critical thinking skills to understand something?

HSE said.....

They said it was low risk
They now advise doctors it can last in the air for up to 3 hours after someone coughs. Imagine that in a supermarket. Do you think you won't get it cause the HSE said so. Good luck

begbysback · 19-03-2020 10:22PM

Route1 wrote: »

Why not take preventive measures, would it not be a reasonable idea to try avoid a scenario like in Italy or Spain?

we are taking preventative measures, and each individual is entitled to restrict themselves even further if they so wish

Call Me Jimmy · 19-03-2020 10:23PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No but they have grotesque animal factory farms where diseases spread that could spread to humans, for that reason I don't think any of us can look down on the Chinese. We should perhaps think about how we keep animals worldwide, it might even mean, gasp, eating less meat.

What is the comparable risk I wonder between our regulated and monitored (horrible as it is) factory farming vs seemingly unregulated wet markets or similar?

If the risk is similar you have a point, but you still can't account for the damage of suppressing information like this as well.

Blueshoe · 19-03-2020 10:23PM

The virus lives on surfaces for a surprising long time

Thelonious Monk · 19-03-2020 10:24PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

The problem is with eating wild animals, bats especially as they carry diseases.

oh I know, we're far better, but we still have some ghastly practices

Kaisr Sose · 19-03-2020 10:24PM

billyhead wrote: »

It will soon hit people hard that are not obeying the distancing rules when a loved one is on a ventilator in ICU.

I would hope they cop on before that, but you maybe rignt. Then, will they be talking to Joe about the HSE not doing enough... Soon enough? Its always someone else's fault types.

igCorcaigh · 19-03-2020 10:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

That's a grim question but an interesting one

Pneumonia means your lungs get filled with fluid; there may be organ failure too.

I don't know how peaceful or not it is for people who pass, but very good question. We need a HCW here to answer that.

Strazdas · 19-03-2020 10:24PM

martin101 wrote: »

Hope your still saying that this time two weeks. Why not do it now before it gets totally out of hand? Ah sure it be grand eh?

Those demanding a lockdown are probably isolated / loners and wouldn't even be impacted by it. It's a different for the broader society who are used to socialising and not being prisoners in their own home....it would hit them hard if it went on too long.

Quantum Erasure · 19-03-2020 10:25PM

ShaneU wrote: »

I've had some mild symptoms come and go the last three days, cough, headaches, burning/itchy eyes, pains at the side of my head, and a strange "swarming" feeling in my head (hard to concentrate) Feel grand now just the odd cough. No fever

Thinking of ringing HSE tomorrow

you're not you when you're hungry, have a snickers

Mervyn Skidmore · 19-03-2020 10:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

Tell your Dad that just before you die from this, you gain complete awareness and your b*llocks explode. He might have second thoughts and start loving life again.

fritzelly · 19-03-2020 10:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

Good breakdown here
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51214864

Really not something you want to go thru

Hobgoblin11 · 19-03-2020 10:26PM

I wish people would stop eating BATS all around the world, they are meant for other things.

Makes my stomach turn

Have a Snickers

JP Liz V1 · 19-03-2020 10:26PM

begbysback wrote: »

relax - we've had 3 deaths, kids in blanchardstown and finglas have a higher kill rate this year

Even 1 death is too many

fritzelly · 19-03-2020 10:26PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

you're not you when you're hungry, have a snickers

It's Marathon now (for a limited time)

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 10:27PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

The problem is with eating wild animals, bats especially as they carry diseases.

The wet markets are a huge part of the economy particularly the rural uneducated poor in China who survive by subsistance agriculture. A year from now they'll be back up and running if probably more underground.

owlbethere · 19-03-2020 10:28PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/caixin/status/1238049329765470208

How do they sleep at night?

stephenjmcd · 19-03-2020 10:28PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

You are contradicting yourself.

There is no benefit but health workers need them to stop getting sick.

Do you actually listen to yourself? Have you ever had to apply critical thinking skills to understand something?

HSE said.....

They said it was low risk
They now advise doctors it can last in the air for up to 3 hours after someone coughs. Imagine that in a supermarket. Do you think you won't get it cause the HSE said so. Good luck

Give it over, healthcare workers are in contact for much longer periods and require ppe including masks, that's a no brainer. Read the previous posts.

The general public walking around outside do not need to wear one as the risk of contracting is considered low.

Theres a difference between a 12 hour plus shift in an isolation ward and a walk down the road.

Thats the point. And yes my job involves highly critical thinking. You have a great night now.

Blueshoe · 19-03-2020 10:29PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Those demanding a lockdown are probably isolated / loners and wouldn't even be impacted by it. It's a different for the broader society who are used to socialising and not being prisoners in their own home....it would hit them hard if it went on too long.

That's just rude. Look at Spain, Italy, Germany. They should have shutdown earlier. Now hundreds are dying everyday.
Don't worry you can still Skype

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 10:29PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

I wish people would stop eating BATS all around the world, they are meant for other things.

Makes my stomach turn

Have a Snickers

But they’re so tasty.
Kerrygold butter and toomattto sauce.

martin101 · 19-03-2020 10:29PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Those demanding a lockdown are probably isolated / loners and wouldn't even be impacted by it. It's a different for the broader society who are used to socialising and not being prisoners in their own home....it would hit them hard if it went on too long.

No think your wrong, me and a few of my friends want a lockdown. Some of us have elderly family that we care about and don't want to see die. Nothing to do with being a loner and just want a lockdown for the sake of it. Problem with people these days is "I'm ok so fxxk the rest of yous" lovely attitude

Atlantic Dawn · 19-03-2020 10:30PM

How come almost every contributor to these shows on Covid-19 seem to have the worst possible quality internet connection?

niallo27 · 19-03-2020 10:30PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Those demanding a lockdown are probably isolated / loners and wouldn't even be impacted by it. It's a different for the broader society who are used to socialising and not being prisoners in their own home....it would hit them hard if it went on too long.

Its impossible for some factories to close full time too, I work in a 24/7 manufacturing multi national. If we shut down lines for 24 hours even, it would be chaos.

Mervyn Skidmore · 19-03-2020 10:30PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

But they’re so tasty.
Kerrygold butter and toomattto sauce.

Put a bitta butter on the bats Andre.

dougm1970 · 19-03-2020 10:30PM

godson / nephew of mine...16...very sick today...sick since Saturday night but awful bad today....huge fever, headache and coughing...dry cough too....seemingly someone coming out to test him today and it'll be two days for results
a young fella whos never sick ..not a pick of fat on him.. does a lot of boxing and football.
facetimed him there and was shocked how he looked, face swollen and sweaty...hes in bed and has no energy at all.

may not be it at all....but its just hes never sick and has these symptoms at this time.

his family have been told to self isolate.

that was posted monday....he was sick since last saturday night...family told he'd be tested on monday, someone would call to house.....but nothing since...family are under isolation and can't leave the house, my wife doing shopping etc for them and leaving at their gate.
he's improved in last couple of days, but he was savage sick...doctor instructed him to stay in bedroom and not go around the house.
maybe it wasnt the virus at all....but his family are convinced it was, due to symptoms and how first time he was ever this sick happened to fall on this week.
dunno if he'll be tested at all now that hes on the mend.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP