CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

smelly sock wrote: »

But you can get it twice?

No evidence of that thankfully.

gabeeg wrote: »

but it's a disease

Every sickness is a disease. How about they come round to your house and test you. Full Hazmat, the lot. You test negative, but for the next 3 months you're a leper. Is that what you propose?

This thing is everywhere, stop for a coffee, you'll touch a cup, a stirrer, a lid, a sugar sachet, and a milk dispenser. Every single interaction has the risk of infection yet you think you can track this by knowing where a person lives. Its time people screwed their head on and had a think besides waffling on about lockdowns, diseased people, suppression strategies and all the rest of the panic induced bullsh1t, follow the advice given and get on with life.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The horse is bolted now.

We need some new clichés.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Wearing gloves or mask are useless unless your already ill. It's been recommended time and time again not to wear masks unless you have a respiratory issue.

No need to wear gloves, your potentially doing more harm with them on..better to wash your hands

That's nonsense. It spreads through air. If you have a mask you SHOULD wear it (if it's rated for viruses). The only problem is that boomers will make fun of you and report you to store security.

Downlinz wrote: »

The strain in Wuhan is predominantly thought to be milder than the one we appear to have in Europe.
What's happening in Italy with a near 10% death rate is certainly not comparable to a seasonal flu.

The death rate variances are linked to 2 things, firstly and most critical to understand is that where the death rate appears high, testing rates are low which points to the fact that far more people have contracted the virus than is recorded ergo actual death rate is far lower than estimated

The 2nd factor, and this is the scary one, is that health services have been so overwhelmed that the strain on medical equipment and staff is affecting the mortality rate.

Italy has both of these factors at play, so while the mortality rate almost certainly isn't 10% it is probably higher than the average mortality rate due to late action on containment and the subsequent pressure on the health services.

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

The funny thing is -
I own an m8 rated 3M mask but I'm afraid to wear it because people will probably find it funny/suspicious because of helmet policies.

Same for me. I bought n95 masks when this first started in China.

smelly sock wrote: »

But you can get it twice?

The medical world is fairly unanimous in saying it acts like any virus, you gain immunity.

Had a major falling out with a friend a few months back, we both said some never coming back from that things and thought that was that. Stunned to today receive a text from them saying hope you and the family are doing okay, now feel bad I didn't make the first move but definitely a positive in the middle of all this crap

threeball wrote: »

Every sickness is a disease. How about they come round to your house and test you. Full Hazmat, the lot. You test negative, but for the next 3 months you're a leper. Is that what you propose?

This thing is everywhere, stop for a coffee, you'll touch a cup, a stirrer, a lid, a sugar sachet, and a milk dispenser. Every single interaction has the risk of infection yet you think you can track this by knowing where a person lives. Its time people screwed their head on and had a think besides waffling on about lockdowns, diseased people, suppression strategies and all the rest of the panic induced bullsh1t, follow the advice given and get on with life.

The advice is not to get on with life.

It's to alter it drastically.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The horse is bolted now. The limited shutdown came too late. Contact tracing has likely been a failure as unless you employ chinese type rigour, technology and numbers its no use.

At this stage all we can do is keep old people isolated.

We were always going to hit this stage when we failed to ban flights early to Italy and when we failed to impose isolation on those who returned from Italy. The Italian fans coming over probably didn't help and the government didn't even bother telling the Cheltenham punters to isolate.

Our only hope now is older people don't get it in large numbers. They probably shouldn't even be going to the shops at this stage.

The limited shutdown didnt work mainly due to lazy, irresponsible and all round crap parents.

I've walked the dog through St Annes park in dub 3 every day this week and it full of groups of teenagers.

People have been told what to do and they refuse to do it so if we want to point fingers then it at the general populace - they need to be forced to do things as they dont have the cop on/selflessness to do the right thing.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Wearing gloves or mask are useless unless your already ill. It's been recommended time and time again not to wear masks unless you have a respiratory issue.

No need to wear gloves, your potentially doing more harm with them on..better to wash your hands

I agree about the mask. But gloves can make a difference and every customer in a shop should be forced to wear them. If we had a proper government they would enforce strong measures like this.

Its very unlikely most people who go shopping wash their hands beforehand and many are likely covid infected. If you don't wear gloves you could bring it home and infect everyone in the house.

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

That's nonsense. It spreads through air. If you have a mask you SHOULD wear it (if it's rated for viruses). The only problem is that boomers will make fun of you and report you to store security.

Sorry but that's utter crap. It's not spread through air. Unless you have contact with someone who has it then you wont get it. It's not airborne in that sense.

Again and I can back this up with various medical articles, only healthcare workers or those with an at risk illness should wear them. If your healthily it makes absolutely no difference if you wear them, it can still enter via the eyes.