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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I see Eoghan Murphy was self isolating from returning from travel abroad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    Umpalumpa wrote: »
    HSE is now booking entire hotels in Dublin for overflow of cases. Booking them for 12 months

    Thats good news.
    The NHS in the UK are doing the same. Going to use some hotels for accommodation for extra health staff and some as temporary "step down" treatment units to free up hospital beds.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/hotel-chains-in-talks-to-turn-properties-into-nhs-hospitals-coronavirus


  • Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Ranger wing
    Military aid to the Civilian power

    But don't worry the laws that were issued today won't give any extra powers to them
    They are still bounded by civil law and can only assist Garda when called upon

    I was curious about this. A few nights ago, a large group of scumbags were running wild, smashing up vehicles, in Cherry Orchard Dublin
    I am curious, what if any powers , would the army have if called to a scene like this.

    Can they even put their hands on a person? What if they were just abused and told to f off


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bfa1509 wrote: »
    That guy who makes the announcements is CONSTANTLY fidgeting with something.

    Kind of a high pressure job in fairness.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Sharon is very excited about bad news! Roll on Miriam!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,322 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    need new laws for this type of **** during this crisis - life sentence

    Definitely need judges to take note of date of offence and impose extra tariff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 CymbaltaMan


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I was curious about this. A few nights ago, a large group of scumbags were running wild, smashing up vehicles, in Cherry Orchard Dublin
    I am curious, what if any powers , would the army have if called to a scene like this.

    Can they even put their hands on a person? What if they were just abused and told to f off

    New laws they can detain without question or shoot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭threeball


    What was the excuse for failure to deal with it before this crisis.

    I doubt people would have tolerated even scumbags being shot on sight pre virus. Right now I think there'd be 90% support.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    growleaves wrote: »
    I agree there's a degree of entitlement to it, but there's also a reason for it.

    If the articulate and influential people in society are bullied by soldiers they're not going to forget it and you're not going to hear the end of it if you live to be 110.

    WTF does articulate and influential people in society have to do with it? :confused: We are all citizens equal under law less you forget. We are all in this together. Any feelings of entitlement should disappear when the security of the state is at play. The point is a 19 year old private enforcing a curfew doesn't give a fvck who you rugger buggered with nor should he.

    No matter what part of the country you are from there should be no-one thinking they are an exception at this time. We all have to act in the collective interest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Dr. Colossus


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Which would you rather, test positive for Covid-19 or watch an episode of Mrs Browne's Boys from start to finish?

    I would rather spend a month in Syria.:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    We have 7,300 active personnel and 1,663 reserves minus 565 currently on active duty overseas.

    We are so sparsely populated that we would need the army in every town and village.

    Obviously Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway would need more resources than elsewhere.

    A week of high profile presence would tell people the **** is real.
    Fines for disobedience.

    We would not need feet in every town and village, just the major areas where anti social behaviour is common and where a certain demographic resides. Local Gardai can look after the rest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Thats good news.
    The NHS in the UK are doing the same. Going to use some hotels for accommodation for extra health staff and some as temporary "step down" treatment units to free up hospital beds.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/hotel-chains-in-talks-to-turn-properties-into-nhs-hospitals-coronavirus

    Including our own I know of 2 other hotels beside us that have been contacted. In total its 2000 beds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,600 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Our increase in cases rises as expected. I wonder how many are related to Cheltenham or Italian Tourists? Any figures for this?

    Definitely not Cheltenham anyway. There wouldn't have been enough time to get infected and then tested (the festival only finished on Friday evening).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I was curious about this. A few nights ago, a large group of scumbags were running wild, smashing up vehicles, in Cherry Orchard Dublin
    I am curious, what if any powers , would the army have if called to a scene like this.

    Can they even put their hands on a person? What if they were just abused and told to f off

    Zero powers. We could get them doing constructive admin work perhaps in the stations to free up guards to patrol. Maybe delivering shopping to the elderly and vulnerable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Do they really think that everyone that has lost their job will find one in 6 weeks? That makes no sense whatsoever, more and more places are closing, how on earth do they think they will get a job in 6 weeks, they'll need to extend that to 6 months.

    you can learn a lot in 6 weeks basic training.
    • public order
    • CBRN drills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    threeball wrote: »
    They should have enacted a law saying looters and thieves will be shot while they were at it today. Frontline have no time for this sh1t now. Scumbags will use this as an opportunity.


    True. Martial type law shoot if necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Which would you rather, test positive for Covid-19 or watch an episode of Mrs Browne's Boys from start to finish?

    I'd live in Mrs. Browne's bloomers to not catch it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Chinese figures are bollix.

    Source ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,098 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Chinese figures are bollix.

    You haven't even seen the state of their writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭Longing


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Definitely not Cheltenham anyway. There wouldn't have been enough time to get infected and then tested (the festival only finished on Friday evening).

    Yes put it started last Tuesday week. So cases will be starting to show.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    greenpilot wrote: »
    We would not need feet in every town and village, just the major areas where anti social behaviour is common and where a certain demographic resides. Local Gardai can look after the rest

    Would you parachute them in or would it be a land invasion via the dublin mountains for cover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,506 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    mohawk wrote: »
    What a ****ty thing to do to an elderly person. Scumbags is right.

    As an aside should we be telling pensioners be making arrangements to have pension paid to their bank accounts?

    It's already available, but some don't want it.

    There's a social aspect in collecting the pension from the post office that I can understand.

    Though with the whole distancing stuff, anyone that has an elderly relative/neighbour should be advising it imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭growleaves


    We are all citizens equal under law less you forget.

    You don't have to tell me that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Seriously will you calm down. The army are not going to be shooting looters or rounding up anyone. They are the army and not trained in law enforcement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,239 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    New laws they can detain without question or shoot

    Shoot first, detain for questioning later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    There is no need for government formation talks, all parties should be working together during this crisis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Shoot first, detain for questioning later.

    Yes the Irish army will be doing this in a week or too. Ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Zero powers. We could get them doing constructive admin work perhaps in the stations to free up guards to patrol. Maybe delivering shopping to the elderly and vulnerable.

    To Aid the Civil Power/Aid to the Civil Authority (meaning in practice to assist, when requested, the Garda Síochána, who have primary responsibility for law and order, including the protection of the internal security of the State).

    https://www.military.ie/en/what-we-do/#anchor-2

    Say one Garda and one soldier - Garda does the arresting, if the scumbag gets frisky, the soldier can assist.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I was in Jackos army.
    If the call came.
    I’d serve again.
    Lovely pints.


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