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Practicalities concerning optional activities

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  • #62
    Wibbs
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    artanevilla wrote: »
    the virus is not airborne.
    I wish people would stop saying this. It's not the case, or it's more nuanced than that. It doesn't appear to be fully airborne in the sense of viral particles in the wind, but it is airborne in the sense of expelled droplets in breath and coughs and sneezes in aerosol carrying the virus. It's why the two metres "safe" distance figure is in place. Though if someone coughs directly at you from six feet away... Hence why the cough into a hankie or your inner elbow is in place. Sneezes would carry it further, but sneezing doesn't seem to be a common symptom of this dose.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #63
    Wibbs
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    tipperaryboy wrote: »
    What are people’s view on visiting family all being young and relatively healthy? Should it be completely avoided
    What part of social distancing is proving hard for people to get? No offence T, as I see friends of mine doing what you're describing, but it's pretty clear.

    OK let's imagine one of the family have it. No symptoms or no symptoms yet. They pass it on to at least two others(which seems to the general pattern with this). They in turn leave it on surfaces when shopping or going to the pharmacy and so on.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #64
    nyarlothothep
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    It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.


  • #65
    storker
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.

    There's something funny about The Crawling Chaos trying to avoid looking suspicious. :)


  • #66
    Pawwed Rig
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    Would it be better to just get it and ride it out given that none of us in the house are in the risk categories? Or is that playing with fire?


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  • #67
    chicorytip
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    nyarlothothep wrote: »
    It's pretty hard to avoid people. I go for runs but yesterday for example, there were two people down one end of the footpath and two people walking towards me from the other. There was no footpath across the street so ended up having to hold my breath and sprint past them. Could go into a drive way but then I'd look suspicious and might get into hassle. The problem isn't necessarily people themselves but the lack of space on footpaths.
    Contamination will occur only when there is a prolonged period of exposure to somebody with the virus. At least fifteen minutes, that is. These very brief kind of closenesses you describe would place you at zero risk. Continue with your daily runs.


  • #68
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Would it be better to just get it and ride it out given that none of us in the house are in the risk categories? Or is that playing with fire?

    Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

    There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

    I think a 21yo Spanish football coach died recently from it...

    I don't care what strategy anyone is peddling, if they want to call it "herd immunity" or some other BS... I'm never deliberately infecting myself with something we know very little about, and then just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best! (In my book that's not really a strategy anyway - unless you are talking about a vaccine type scenario) :)


  • #69
    KiKi III
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

    There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

    I think a 21yo Spanish football coach died recently from it...

    I don't care what strategy anyone is peddling, if they want to call it "herd immunity" or some other BS... I'm never deliberately infecting myself with something we know very little about, and then just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best! (In my book that's not really a strategy anyway - unless you are talking about a vaccine type scenario) :)

    I’m not saying it’s a good idea (I don’t think it is) but don’t a lot of parents let their kids pick up chicken pox willingly so they don’t get it again?


  • #70
    Pawwed Rig
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    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Would you willingly infect yourself with any other viruses?

    There are examples of younger people getting into trouble with this thing too... it's just less common!

    Absolutely not but my ponderence (rather than a proposition) is would it be better to get it over with and move on with life rather than hole up for the next 3 months whereupon I may get it anyway


  • #71
    KiKi III
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    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Absolutely not but my ponderence (rather than a proposition) is would it be better to get it over with and move on with life rather than hole up for the next 3 months whereupon I may get it anyway

    You’ll have to hole up anyway.

    And no, the whole point of making every effort not get it now is to avoid putting pressure on the health services as the virus peaks.

    If you get it on purpose and end up in an ICU bed (or you infect someone who does) you’re potentially depriving a much more vulnerable person of that bed/ treatment/ ventilator.


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  • #72
    Alf Veedersane
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    I’m not saying it’s a good idea (I don’t think it is) but don’t a lot of parents let their kids pick up chicken pox willingly so they don’t get it again?

    I've never heard of parents letting their children get the chicken pox. Not sane ones anyway.

    There isn't a great deal of logic in letting them get it once so they don't get it another time.


  • #73
    Pawwed Rig
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    KiKi III wrote: »
    If you get it on purpose and end up in an ICU bed (or you infect someone who does) you’re potentially depriving a much more vulnerable person of that bed/ treatment/ ventilator.

    I am obviously not purposely going to infect myself but given that I am unlikely to require ICU my question is would there be any adverse effect of me getting sick, staying at home for however long in a controlled environment and emerging at the far side ready to face the world. Hypothetically speaking


  • #74
    This is it
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    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    I've never heard of parents letting their children get the chicken pox. Not sane ones anyway.

    There isn't a great deal of logic in letting them get it once so they don't get it another time.

    It is a thing, literally called a chicken pox party. The idea being that it's better for us to get it at a younger age than when you're older where you might have a more severe reaction. Myth or not, I don't know.


  • #75
    Alf Veedersane
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    This is it wrote: »
    It is a thing, literally called a chicken pox party. The idea being that it's better for us to get it at a younger age than when you're older where you might have a more severe reaction. Myth or not, I don't know.

    Which is why I added in the 'sane' qualifier.


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