CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Mervyn Skidmore · 19-03-2020 04:17PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Maybe the Japanese are just more hygienic and respectful of rules? Much harder for a virus to spread in a culture where everyone always maintains distance, no hand shaking, no kissing on cheeks, mask wearing as standard when sick, and people respecting official guidelines.

Except they have guys hired to physically push them into Metros. But you're right, in general they are not physical with each other.

wakka12 · 19-03-2020 04:18PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
15,000 tests to be carried out daily in Ireland starting some time this week. Per capita that is even more ambitious in scale than the level of testing carried out in South Korea

Strazdas · 19-03-2020 04:18PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DanLinden/status/1240650556265369600

Looks like New York is the next big epicentre of this pandemic, I think it has overtaken Madrid in numbers now.

Density of population has to be a huge factor here : everyone living on top of each other.

Strazdas · 19-03-2020 04:19PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
15,000 tests to be carried out daily in Ireland starting some time this week. Per capita that is as ambitious in scale as the level of testing carried out in South Korea.

Fair play to all involved. This is what the WHO were urging.

iamwhoiam · 19-03-2020 04:21PM

Testing centre in Tallaght Stadium was busy this morning . It looked very organised as we passed it

Christy42 · 19-03-2020 04:21PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Fair play to all involved. This is what the WHO were urging.

Are we getting more tests? I thought we were getting 30k today which would only be 2 days.

Good to hear though

Goldengirl · 19-03-2020 04:22PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Yep... I think it is plausible that they're just doing a better job with this than other nations right now!

Rather than throwing around unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, about them fiddling the numbers... perhaps we should try to find out how they're tackling this, and get cracking doing whatever they're doing! (and quick)

It would be nice if they are doing everything right that they would share this knowledge and experience with the rest of us struggling to get control of this virus.

A bit of clarity in the name of openness and sharing with your EU counterparts , Germany?

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 04:23PM

Big increases in cases in German regions. I smell horse **** when I see "electronically submitted cases". If it wasn't electronically submitted then it doesn't count? Maybe the deaths aren't electronically submitted.

ZX7R · 19-03-2020 04:23PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

It's a really bad attitude. What if one member of the family has a less-than-robust immune response to the virus? Won't be so bullish about it then...

If a member of your family is affected by an underlying problem the family will know and will react accordingly.
Our gp contacted us to inform us our son special needs in in the most at risk group, confirming what I already knew.
And if a person has an underlying issues and you don't know it really doesn't matter even if there was no virus there would always be a danger for them
One way or another.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 04:24PM

Of recent stats released in Germany, of approximately 8,000 cases, 1,337 were over the age of 60, or about 15%.

Of stats release in Italy, 75% of infected people were aged over 50.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103023/coronavirus-cases-distribution-by-age-group-italy/

What this tells us is that the age profile in Italy of infected cases is much higher and likely of severe cases, as many who have mild symptom don't even get tested.

What determines higher mortality numbers is the proportion of elderly people infected and Italy is way ahead of Germany on this.

As for those alleging a conspiracy from the Germany government, it would require thousands or tens of thousands of people to go along with it in the media, politics, healthcare and so on. Even China couldn't keep the causes of death from coronavirus quiet in the early days despite having a ruthless reputation for silencing people.

El Weirdo · 19-03-2020 04:24PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
15,000 tests to be carried out daily in Ireland starting some time this week. Per capita that is even more ambitious in scale than the level of testing carried out in South Korea

So just two days worth of tests arrived today?

mkdon · 19-03-2020 04:24PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Lots of noticeable suitcase activity in my apartment block this week. Can only assume, those who lost jobs are moving in with friends and others that are leaving are going back home.

wheres that? not noticed the same in fact no activity

gozunda · 19-03-2020 04:25PM

Allinall wrote: »

Could be the safest place in the world, if no-one on board has the virus.

For clarification

dublin99 · 19-03-2020 04:25PM

little bess wrote: »

I’m on an ARB and have read a couple of articles about it and am slightly concerned. I haven’t spoken to my gp about this, have you?

My other half was advised to stop one of the meds (an ARB?) but to slightly increase the dosage of another medication he takes. We are trying to maintain some regular level of exercise like walking in the park, and to keep an eye on blood pressure levels to see if it is still in the desired range.

I was wondering if this is one of the reasons they say older people or those with underlying conditions are likely to suffer more severely if they catch the Covid?

Cork Boy 53 · 19-03-2020 04:26PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Lots of noticeable suitcase activity in my apartment block this week. Can only assume, those who lost jobs are moving in with friends and others that are leaving are going back home.

Potentially spreading the virus further.

loughside · 19-03-2020 04:26PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

So just two days worth of tests arrived today?

Thats tests,

so when do you get the results?

kingshankly · 19-03-2020 04:27PM

Two friends working in the royal hospital in Belfast showing symptoms told to isolate for two weeks can’t get tested
Shocking the way Uk are handling this

BattleCorp · 19-03-2020 04:28PM

donfers wrote: »

Could the discrepancy in mortality rates between Germany and Italy be down to simple socio-cultural norms.

In the North of Europe we tend to shun our old folks a bit more, they live alone or are packed off to nursing homes. In Southern European countries they tend to be more integrated into communities, invited to social events, out and about in the sun.

Thus way more old people have gotten the virus in Italy and Spain and they will get more deaths.

With 13824 active cases, do you really believe that Germany have only 2 in the serious/critical category.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

That's not believable and neither is their death figures. Their death figures are miles better than the US and the US don't have extended families living together much.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 04:29PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It's not an allegation it's an omission on Germany's part. They've prefaced their data with so many caveats that it is unrecognisable to any other countries.
They openly admit they are 3 days behind.

It's dependant on one of 400 health departments submitting the data correctly etc etc

Don't take my word for it....here's the rober kock explanation.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rki.de%2FDE%2FContent%2FInfAZ%2FN%2FNeuartiges_Coronavirus%2FFallzahlen.html

What has 3 days behind got to do with it?

All countries are days behind. For all we know 1000 people could have tested for cv in Ireland today but we won't know until 3 days time due to the results delay.

Still doesn't prove they are cooking the numbers. If they are, you can be sure any number of German media would be over it as they are not exactly known for holding back in the press over there.

As I said the main reason for low Germany mortality is the much lower age profile of infected cases. The reason for the Italian high rate is the much higher age profile.

megabomberman · 19-03-2020 04:32PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/
15,000 tests to be carried out daily in Ireland starting some time this week. Per capita that is even more ambitious in scale than the level of testing carried out in South Korea

Our response to the virus has gone from pitiful to very competent in two weeks, coupled with a very responsible public we are well positioned compared to some of our neighbours.

The only concern is that the virus disproportionately impacts smaller countries more in the first couple of months as they experience similar case growth to countries that are far larger, as it takes time for multiple clusters to seed.

Boggles · 19-03-2020 04:32PM

dan786 wrote: »

UK Deaths Update

The number of people who have died in England after contracting coronavirus has risen to 128.

The UK will be the only country to have more deaths than actual confirmed cases.

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 04:33PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Of recent stats released in Germany, of approximately 8,000 cases, 1,337 were over the age of 60, or about 15%.

Of stats release in Italy, 75% of infected people were aged over 50.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103023/coronavirus-cases-distribution-by-age-group-italy/

What this tells us is that the age profile in Italy of infected cases is much higher and likely of severe cases, as many who have mild symptom don't even get tested.

What determines higher mortality numbers is the proportion of elderly people infected and Italy is way ahead of Germany on this.

As for those alleging a conspiracy from the Germany government, it would require thousands or tens of thousands of people to go along with it in the media, politics, healthcare and so on. Even China couldn't keep the causes of death from coronavirus quiet in the early days despite having a ruthless reputation for silencing people.

To be clear. I'm not alleging a conspiracy. Let's see who's right. I've been proven right about a lot of things here over the past month. That's generally because I've followed the data. This data doesn't look right and has massive caveats. Every country is counting differently. Germany is no different.

What I am alleging and this is pure speculation.

a massive lag in reporting. 3 days a least based on their explanation which equates to the doubling time of this pandemic.
A lack of transparency of how many cases in ICU etc.
A lag on reporting deaths when they occur
Attributing cause of death to comorbities
not testing post mortem

You can see the lag here yourself.

Please post some data / research to back up your ascertains.

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-03-19-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

Cork Boy 53 · 19-03-2020 04:33PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DanLinden/status/1240650556265369600

Looks like New York is the next big epicentre of this pandemic, I think it has overtaken Madrid in numbers now.

Not surprising really. I presume the majority of those are in New York City.

Blaze420 · 19-03-2020 04:33PM

Have to say FG and the health service are playing an absolute blinder here, put aside the politics and recognise when a good job is being done.

harr · 19-03-2020 04:33PM

Can I ask why Ireland leave it son late in the day for update 8.45 pm is a ridiculous time of the day. Most if not all other countries have press conferences during the day.
Could they lot do it around lunch time .. any particular reason for this.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 04:33PM

Just saw the bizarrest thing for the White House press conference. 3 people standing behind Trump about 2 meters apart, an aide comes in and tells them all to move much closer together.
They don't get this at all.

walshb · 19-03-2020 04:34PM

Trump on now.

He actually emphasised his Chinese virus tag when he said it.

Horrible bastid’ of a man..he’s deliberately stoking hatred..

Blaze420 · 19-03-2020 04:34PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Not surprising really. I presume the majority of those are in New York City.

An area called New Rochelle looks to be the main hotspot at the moment, mile wide quarantine imposed around it. It's only a flu yeah Trump? :rolleyes:

RandomName2 · 19-03-2020 04:35PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Potentially spreading the virus further.

To begin with.

With the panic buying, shift in where people are predominantly spending their time, and others initially acting the maggot (in places like Temple Bar) I would expect an initial spike in cases before a quick crash in number of new infections

DOCARCH · 19-03-2020 04:35PM

Boggles wrote: »

The UK will be the only country to have more than deaths than actual confirmed cases.

:P

Total UK deaths now at 137.

+33 deaths today (so far) but only +66 cases today (so far).

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP