CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

New Home · 19-03-2020 02:00PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Or it could just be an army convoy. I'm sure I could head down to the Curragh and wait around for a few army trucks to pass me by and take a picture. It wouldn't mean they're now working as hearses. I'm very suspicious of social media images that aren't backed up by official sources.

Do you regularly see them driving in and out of graveyards?

Here's a link to a local newspaper.https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/defunti-in-altre-citta-per-la-cremazionemezzi-dellesercito-trasportano-le-bare_1345643_11/

GoogleTranslated it for you:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecodibergamo.it%2Fstories%2Fbergamo-citta%2Fdefunti-in-altre-citta-per-la-cremazionemezzi-dellesercito-trasportano-le-bare_1345643_11%2F

dublin99 · 19-03-2020 02:00PM

A second dog has tested positive for coronavirus in Hong Kong. It is a German shepherd whose owner was also a confirmed case.

The first dog that was diagnosed, a 17 year pomeranian, died earlier on this week.

spookwoman · 19-03-2020 02:00PM

Sheets updated

tommythecat · 19-03-2020 02:00PM

bekker wrote: »

Not for those with OCD, or nervous, or squeamish dispositions. Fascinating and graphic trailing of the course of COVID-19 infection.

How the Coronavirus Could Take Over Your Body (Before You Ever Feel It)

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/the-story-of-a-coronavirus-infection.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Intelligencer%20-%20March%2018%2C%202020&utm_term=Subscription%20List%20-%20Daily%20Intelligencer%20%281%20Year%29#comments

Well that's pretty depressing

cnocbui · 19-03-2020 02:00PM

gmisk wrote: »

Ok silly question why don't you get your tonsils out?
I had horrendous time for a year or two in my 20s with tonsillitis,had them removed it wasn't pleasant but no issue since.

Tonsils are part of your immune system. Would you have one of your thumbs removed if you kept hitting it with a hammer?

Have You Had Your Tonsils Removed? We Have Really Bad News For You

But a pioneering study published in JAMA Otolaryngology-Head & Neck Surgery suggests that this widespread practice could be setting children up for more illnesses in the future.

The research team, led by Dr Sean Byars at the University of Melbourne, examined medical records from a massive dataset of approximately 1.2 million Danish individuals whose health had been followed from birth to age 10, and in some cases, up to age 30.

After comparing subjects who had their tonsils or adenoids removed before age 9 to controls, Dr Byers and his colleagues found that those who underwent tonsillectomy were three times more likely to suffer from either allergic or infectious upper respiratory tract diseases – including asthma, influenza, and pneumonia, among others – in the following years. Undergoing an adenoidectomy was associated with a two-fold higher rate of these diseases as well as chronic pulmonary obstructive disease (COPD) and conjunctivitis.

And surprisingly, the analysis indicated that many of the troublesome symptoms of tonsillitis and adenoiditis that removal surgeries aim to ameliorate – breathing problems and chronic ear or sinus inflammation – often return soon after the operation, meaning that any possible short-term benefits are paltry when stacked against the long-term risks.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/kids-who-get-their-tonsils-removed-have-substantially-greater-rates-of-illness-later-in-life/

ThePopehimself · 19-03-2020 02:01PM

gabeeg wrote: »

I'm afraid in Ireland they just want to know what part of the country you'd been in

"Have you been in contact with someone from the north of the country?"

"No I don't think so"

"Good. And what about the East?"

"Well obviously, I'm from Dub..."

"WOAH WOAH WOAH, I don't need that level of granularity. How many people from the East have you been in contact with?"

Spook_ie · 19-03-2020 02:02PM

davedanon wrote: »

It's necessary because of jaw-dropping actions such as:

https://mobile.twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1240530155006820352

The UK is still refusing to participate in the joint EU procurement program for ventilators & medical equipment despite EU saying they can..

...because it’s a European program.

More like they know there's a shortage of ventilators full stop! and would rather their manufacturers like Penlon and Breas ramp up production with whatever assistance the government can provide.

MarkY91 · 19-03-2020 02:02PM

silver2020 wrote: »

One lunatic in Tesco Naas - he had 2 kids with him.

REFUSED to stand 2m from another customer behind the marked strips on the floor.
Refused to keep distance from the checkout person.

Checkout person closed the till down when he continued to refuse and went to the staff area.

The Prick went to customer service (big man going to complain about checkout person and get them in trouble - setting an example to his kids)

Customer service call store manager. He listens for 30 seconds to the prick.

Trolley taken off him and told to leave the store immediately and banned from returning to the store for life.

Love it!

Post of the day.

2Mad2BeMad · 19-03-2020 02:03PM

Cw85 wrote: »

In bed dying with tonsillitis, worst thing is that all the symptoms are nearly the same as the virus. I get tonsillitis however every three months so knew what was coming

Feel real bad for you. I use to suffer with sore throats every few months as a kid.
Then when I was 16 I got tonsillitis, never felt so much burning pain from my throat before, couldn't talk, eat or sleep with it just drank water and took some antibiotics I was given took nearly 2 weeks to clear but il never forget it I'm actually happy when I get a sore throat from a cold because I know its not as bad as tonsillitis

Spook_ie · 19-03-2020 02:05PM

murpho999 wrote: »

For reference for what purpose. This is not time for a statistical study project.

Keep tests for those who show symptoms.

If you don't have symptoms then you don't need to be tested.

So that you know how many people actually have CoVid19 with minimal symptoms rather than how many are presenting to GPS and hospitals.

Mehan2000 · 19-03-2020 02:05PM

Will the junior cert go ahead ?
Not really as important as the leaving cert.

pH · 19-03-2020 02:05PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Staying under 30% increase each night is seen as a measure of success for us. Last night was 25%. A day on it's own doesn't mean anything and there's the variable of tests conducted.

How and ever we have 366 cases in the republic, 30% of that is 110.

So 110 is the figure to look for tonight. If we continue at 25% increase we'll have 92 new cases tonight. It would be 2 days in a row.

Other variables are the length of time it takes for lockdown to have an effect, incubation period, the Cheltenham and other returnees from abroad...when will we see their virus symptoms and if/when they passed it on hitting the figures.

And of course anymore deaths. But 110 is a figure to keep in mind.

25% increase per day is in no way success for us. It represents a doubling of cases every 4 days, so it's slightly slower and we have more time to prepare but the outbreak would still be in full swing and will still overwhelm our health service (albeit a week later).

We need to see this number coming down every day (31%->25%->22%->) for example, showing us cresting the top of the curve and getting the exponential growth under control.

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 02:05PM

murpho999 wrote: »

For reference for what purpose. This is not time for a statistical study project.

Keep tests for those who show symptoms.

If you don't have symptoms then you don't need to be tested.

Not sure about this. Countries and towns that successfully contain it do so by identifying all carriers.

The first testing round, carried out on the town’s entire population in late February, found 3 per cent of the population infected, though half of the carriers had no symptoms. After isolating all those infected, the second testing round about 10 days later showed the infection rate had dropped to 0.3 per cent.

Importantly, however, this second round identified at least six individuals who had the virus but no symptoms, meaning they could be quarantined. “If they hadn’t been identified, the infection would have resumed,” explained Prof Crisanti.

"https://www.ft.com/content/0dba7ea8-6713-11ea-800d-da70cff6e4d3"

MOR316 · 19-03-2020 02:06PM

Mehan2000 wrote: »

Will the junior cert go ahead ?
Not really as important as the leaving cert.

Biggest waste of time is the Junior Cert.

It's an exam to make the parents feel proud and boastful

Millionaire only not · 19-03-2020 02:07PM

Look at the one that’s talking here !
Joe Brolly says Leo Varadkar's speech was 'insult to people's intelligence'

sheepsh4gger · 19-03-2020 02:07PM

You could give boomers some anti-virals preemptively and keep the rest of the economy open. I'm pretty sure Tinder users have stacks of them.

Tony EH · 19-03-2020 02:08PM

silver2020 wrote: »

One lunatic in Tesco Naas - he had 2 kids with him.

REFUSED to stand 2m from another customer behind the marked strips on the floor.
Refused to keep distance from the checkout person.

Checkout person closed the till down when he continued to refuse and went to the staff area.

The Prick went to customer service (big man going to complain about checkout person and get them in trouble - setting an example to his kids)

Customer service call store manager. He listens for 30 seconds to the prick.

Trolley taken off him and told to leave the store immediately and banned from returning to the store for life.

Good.

billybonkers · 19-03-2020 02:08PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

Is there any information on how many tests Ireland has carried out and how many of those tests have been positive or negative?

12,200 tests and 3% positive. They said 3% of tests have been positive last night

bekker · 19-03-2020 02:08PM

murpho999 wrote: »

For reference for what purpose. This is not time for a statistical study project.

Keep tests for those who show symptoms.

If you don't have symptoms then you don't need to be tested.

Getting a handle on underlying community transmission* infection rate facilitate better forward planning. Asymptomatics, and those with mild or ignorable symptoms, are shedding the COVID-19 virus spreading infection.

* Community transmission is evidenced by the inability to relate confirmed cases through chains of transmission for a large number of cases, or by increasing positive tests through sentinel samples (routine systematic testing of respiratory samples from established laboratories)
WHO

iguana · 19-03-2020 02:08PM

Germany's figures are so utterly weird. 13,486 active cases. 2 serious/critical. 2!!!

cnocbui · 19-03-2020 02:09PM

Mehan2000 wrote: »

Will the junior cert go ahead ?
Not really as important as the leaving cert.

I doubt it, I think the year will be a write-off and it will begin again in Sep, if the the situation allows.

Loughc · 19-03-2020 02:09PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Biggest waste of time is the Junior Cert.

It's an exam to make the parents feel proud and boastful

Gives student trial run at a government exam sitting.

Helps sort the students into Honours and Ordinary levels for Leaving Cert.

Without it first 3 years become redundant and a waste.

jamesf85 · 19-03-2020 02:10PM

take everything wrote: »

If those stats are true, that is genuinely remarkable. Anyone know why this might be the case.

This is really something.

I wonder, and this is just me thinking out loud, but does the fact that we are from a colder climate help? Are our immune systems better at handling cold and flus?

Generally the worst flu outbreaks are after mild winters?

The German numbers are both astonishing and comforting. I’d question them but it makes no sense for any EU country to skew their numbers, it could only serve more harm than good to your economy. I know they only count true covid19 cases as the reason of death, but maybe that’s more accurate anyway.

wakka12 · 19-03-2020 02:11PM

iguana wrote: »

Germany's figures are so utterly weird. 13,486 active cases. 2 serious/critical. 2!!!

It simply isnt true. That would mean it is a much milder disease than common flu. Even with flu you would expect 13-15 people in a serious condition with that number of infected. And of course common flu doesnt cripple the healthcare system of a large amount of Western Europe over a two week period

pH · 19-03-2020 02:12PM

iguana wrote: »

Germany's figures are so utterly weird. 13,486 active cases. 2 serious/critical. 2!!!

Merkel did say this was the biggest challenge that Germany had faced since World War II ...

Drumpot · 19-03-2020 02:14PM

silver2020 wrote: »

One lunatic in Tesco Naas - he had 2 kids with him.

REFUSED to stand 2m from another customer behind the marked strips on the floor.
Refused to keep distance from the checkout person.

Checkout person closed the till down when he continued to refuse and went to the staff area.

The Prick went to customer service (big man going to complain about checkout person and get them in trouble - setting an example to his kids)

Customer service call store manager. He listens for 30 seconds to the prick.

Trolley taken off him and told to leave the store immediately and banned from returning to the store for life.

This should go in “positive things” about the virus. Well done store manager and checkout person, there’s no need for them to take that crap.

shesty · 19-03-2020 02:14PM

Is it the same strain of the virus? :eek:

BLIZZARD7 · 19-03-2020 02:14PM

What are Germany at? Covering up deaths by attributing them to underlying illness? I can't see the point in doing this.

Or are they just putting down Pneumonia as the cause of death for all Covid-19 cases?

As much as I want to believe that they are having much better success in treating this I just don't...

Drumpot · 19-03-2020 02:15PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Tonsils are part of your immune system. Would you have one of your thumbs removed if you kept hitting it with a hammer?

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/kids-who-get-their-tonsils-removed-have-substantially-greater-rates-of-illness-later-in-life/

Had mine removed when I was about 7, this explains a lot for me its true.

Gerianam · 19-03-2020 02:16PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I’ve a cold too but I’m self isolating anyway. I doubt it’s Covid as its not in my chest at all, I’m suffering more with sinus pain and congested nose but I’d be worried about catching corona on top of this while my defences are lowered. I’m more flummoxed at how I caught the blasted thing since I’ve been so top of the hygiene and sanitation

Early hay fever, reaction to pollen.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP