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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    In H. G. Wells 1897 science fiction novel ‘ The War of the Worlds’ invading Martians are eventually "slain, after all man's devices had failed, by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put upon this earth": microbes.

    It looks like Trump's assault on decency, truth, democracy and on the planet's future will be halted by a virus.

    :cool:
    That would be a tremendous positive after all of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Michel Barnier tested positive. ( just saw it on Sky news).

    This is now affecting the EU elite.

    Well that can't be right, sure haven't we the experts on some threads telling us this was created by the elites :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Chief EU negotiator, Michael Barnier has confirmed he is carrying the virus.

    in a briefcase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Be careful, or the feeling of victimhood might become overwhelming.

    Trump is a hapless cretin, as shown by his shambolic handling of the coronavirus threat in past two months. And yet some people will resolutely defend the indefensible.

    Apparently he was taking advice from Kushner. Ivanka's husband.

    You couldn't make it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Foxx92 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if contact tracing teams are using google timeline in google maps to help with their efforts. I was able to tell almost all of the places I've been in the last month down to the exact shop and the exact time. If there was some ability to download this and send it on to the contact tracing team it would be an amazing tool to create a web of possible contacts. Im aware this is spilling into gdpr issues and what not, but for the majority of us we are opted in to this so may as well make the most of it.

    I'm afraid in Ireland they just want to know what part of the country you'd been in

    "Have you been in contact with someone from the north of the country?"

    "No I don't think so"

    "Good. And what about the East?"

    "Well obviously, I'm from Dub..."

    "WOAH WOAH WOAH, I don't need that level of granularity. How many people from the East have you been in contact with?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    D9Male wrote: »
    To be honest, a higher number of cases in the coming days in Ireland is more likely to be indicative of success in clearing the backlog of testing requests than an indication of whether the problem is deteriorating or not.

    We would probably need to know how many tests per day were built into that 15k figure by Leo in order for us to assess whether we are improving versus that scenario as a baseline.

    Agreed with the points above about death statistics. Germany are less inclined to report Covid-19 as a cause of death.

    Yup going from twitter the number of test requests went though the roof on Monday, I am one of them. But my symptoms were at their worst on Saturday night/sunday. I'm getting better now, cough is practically gone so is temperature. Still short of breath while out walking. Looks like I won't get test today. So good chance I will be asymptomatic when I finally get the test.

    Yet if I lived in Dublin I could go to Croke Park and get everything done and dusted in 24 hours. Bit of a joke and don't belive figures for one minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It's hard to get a full picture. Depends on which media and sources you consume. Also I have friends and family in New York and Florida who report everyone is closed and people are working from home. The is have thrown a ton of money at the problem but like Italy , Spain etc the response is reactionary rather than proactive. I understand there were major issues with testing at the start.

    I think Ireland and Irish people are doing a fantastic job but it's much easier as we are a smal country. It's not so straight forward in a country with 300 million people and different laws and regulations in different states.

    People are so quick to jump down trump's throat without looking at the state our European neighbours are in. Trump was first to suggest a travel ban now most countries have followed.
    People need a boogeyman. They won't criticize the Germans, Italians or Spanish though
    Spain and Italy absolutely, both governments and peoples. The Germans, to their credit, have been doing lots of testing but seem to be playing silly buggers with the numbers of Covid-19 related deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Major shopping centres Blanchardstown, Liffey Valley etc are all remaining open with shopping Centre Management leaving the decision to close to individual shops, I haven’t ventured near them myself but a lot of the shops are UK owned and I’m guessing their head offices appear to be following the UK line

    I can’t imagine the footfall is there to justify non essential shops remaining opening and exposing their staff.Is there not an onus on HSE/Government/ shopping centre owners to step in here

    I know there are pharmacies and grocery stores in some of them but surely non essential shops that haven’t already closed should be guided to close


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I'm afraid in Ireland they just want to know what part of the country you'd been in

    "Have you been in contact with someone from the north of the country?"

    "No I don't think so"

    "Good. And what about the East?"

    "Well obviously, I'm from Dub..."

    "WOAH WOAH WOAH, I don't need that level of granularity. How many people from the East have you been in contact with?"

    which goes completely and utterly against the South Korean experience

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success


    "South Korea learned the importance of preparedness the hard way. In 2015, a South Korean businessman came down with Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) after returning from a visit to three Middle Eastern countries. He was treated at three South Korean health facilities before he was diagnosed with MERS and isolated. By then, he had set off a chain of transmission that infected 186 and killed 36, including many patients hospitalized for other ailments, visitors, and hospital staff. Tracing, testing, and quarantining nearly 17,000 people quashed the outbreak after 2 months. The specter of a runaway epidemic alarmed the nation and dented the economy.

    “That experience showed that laboratory testing is essential to control an emerging infectious disease,” Kim says. In addition, Oh says, “The MERS experience certainly helped us to improve hospital infection prevention and control.” So far, there are no reports of infections of COVID-19 among South Korean health care workers, he says.

    Legislation enacted since then gave the government authority to collect mobile phone, credit card, and other data from those who test positive to reconstruct their recent whereabouts. That information, stripped of personal identifiers, is shared on social media apps that allow others to determine whether they may have crossed paths with an infected person."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Oh Jesus can lads give it a rest with the Trump bashing FFS


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    They said last night in the press conference that 3% of tests were positive so you can do the maths to figure out how many tests have been done

    Roughly 12,200 tests done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,052 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think the testing here needs to be stepped up, more tested even without symptoms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    beolight wrote: »
    Major shopping centres Blanchardstown, Liffey Valley etc are all remaining open with shopping Centre Management leaving the decision to close to individual shops, I haven’t ventured near them myself but a lot of the shops are UK owned and I’m guessing their head offices appear to be following the UK line

    I can’t imagine the footfall is there to justify non essential shops remaining opening and exposing their staff.Is there not an onus on HSE/Government/ shopping centre owners to step in here

    I know there are pharmacies and grocery stores in some of them but surely non essential shops that haven’t already closed should be guided to close

    That may all change soon if our numbers really do follow the predictions, and more so, if we see a rise in fatalities!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    beolight wrote: »
    Major shopping centres Blanchardstown, Liffey Valley etc are all remaining open with shopping Centre Management leaving the decision to close to individual shops, I haven’t ventured near them myself but a lot of the shops are UK owned and I’m guessing their head offices appear to be following the UK line

    I can’t imagine the footfall is there to justify non essential shops remaining opening and exposing their staff.Is there not an onus on HSE/Government/ shopping centre owners to step in here

    I know there are pharmacies and grocery stores in some of them but surely non essential shops that haven’t already closed should be guided to close

    My local shopping centre Nutgrove was really quiet yesterday but still busier than I expected. A lot of the shops chose to close themselves even though the centre is still open, most shops were also only allowing in a specific amount of people, usually 6-8 max at a time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    tbayers wrote: »
    Yup going from twitter the number of test requests went though the roof on Monday, I am one of them. But my symptoms were at their worst on Saturday night/sunday. I'm getting better now, cough is practically gone so is temperature. Still short of breath while out walking. Looks like I won't get test today. So good chance I will be asymptomatic when I finally get the test.

    Yet if I lived in Dublin I could go to Croke Park and get everything done and dusted in 24 hours. Bit of a joke and don't belive figures for one minute.

    Why are you out walking ? Hope its just the back garden ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Oh Jesus can lads give it a rest with the Trump bashing FFS

    No. He deserves it!!! And more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    Oh Jesus can lads give it a rest with the Trump bashing FFS

    If they stoped bashing Trump or Boris half this thread would disappear
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Some parents/grandparents need a kick up the hole! At post office and ole wan with 3 grandids just letting them run around and touch everything. Small place so they were playing with the barriers so they were brushing up against people etc. :mad:

    How do you know they were grandkids. Maybe a week of home schooling is really taking its toll. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Oh Jesus can lads give it a rest with the Trump bashing FFS

    why it is very relevant to how its been handled in the US

    You dont like it dont read the thread
    He isn't even mentioned that much anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    enda1 wrote: »
    Colloquialism

    No, atrocious grammar.

    Hope you ave a nice day:)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    [QUOTE=iwillyeah1234;112883288]Apparently he was taking advice from Kushner. Ivanka's husband.

    You couldn't make it up.[/QUOTE]

    It wouldn`t surprise me at all if true but do you have a link for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think the testing here needs to be stepped up, more tested even without symptoms

    You'd end up just having to test the same people again , If you test every one with no symptoms,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭12 element


    tbayers wrote: »
    I'm getting better now, cough is practically gone so is temperature. Still short of breath while out walking.

    I hope you were walking around your garden?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Is this having any affect on the postal service so far? It just occured to me that I haven't had a single bit of mail in probably a week.

    Of course this is probably coincidence but with my atm card set to expire next month, I could - in a worse case scenario - find myself with no atm access or unable to pay for items with said card. And that would not be good.

    Ring up and say you've need a replacement card. The old card will then work until you use the new card for the first time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Foxx92


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I'm afraid in Ireland they just want to know what part of the country you'd been in

    "Have you been in contact with someone from the north of the country?"

    "No I don't think so"

    "Good. And what about the East?"

    "Well obviously, I'm from Dub..."

    "WOAH WOAH WOAH, I don't need that level of granularity. How many people from the East have you been in contact with?"

    Annoying, and probably something that could be looked at for the next potential wave. Allow everyone to give forward their details for say 30 days. We could then have notifications sent to anyone that was in the same place at roughly the same time of a confirmed case notified and they could self isolate with the knowledge that there was a chance they were infected.
    It's not beyond our capabilities and to be honest is a lot more in line with the likes of korea and singapore and their ability to stuff this out before it gets to the general population


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    tbayers wrote: »
    Yup going from twitter the number of test requests went though the roof on Monday, I am one of them. But my symptoms were at their worst on Saturday night/sunday. I'm getting better now, cough is practically gone so is temperature. Still short of breath while out walking. Looks like I won't get test today. So good chance I will be asymptomatic when I finally get the test.

    Yet if I lived in Dublin I could go to Croke Park and get everything done and dusted in 24 hours. Bit of a joke and don't belive figures for one minute.

    Why are you out walking if you have symptoms? I thought the advice is to isolate immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,710 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Oh Jesus can lads give it a rest with the Trump bashing FFS

    Why? Can't bash that bollocks enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,638 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    12 element wrote: »
    I hope you were walking around your garden?

    There's no harm out walking as long as you keep your distance from others and don't squeeze on passers by surely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Seems it's almost impossible for anyone to get tested regardless of how bad symptoms are, yet most of the people tested showed no symptoms? My suspicions are being raised each day this passes.

    An exercise by world governments to see if they have total control ? There certainly wont be any protests anywhere for a long time? There is always years of austerity ahead.


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