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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #32
    walshb
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    Duggie2012 wrote: »
    When is our update today?

    8.45


  • #33
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    walshb wrote: »
    Anybody else getting fed up with the social media nonsense with people and their Covid vids? The world littered with attention seeking..

    Get off most social media. You'll be in a much better mood.


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    froog wrote: »
    i'd be happy with a good clatter of recovereds tonight.

    It was interesting what the U.K. chief scientific officer was saying about developing a test that not only tells you if you have it, but can also tell if you have had it.

    While there is the likelihood that lots of people have it and don’t know, there is also the likelihood there are people who have had it and fought it off without developing any symptoms.


  • #35
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    No, I'm trying to find out what is so offensive about calling a virus that originated IN CHINA as a "Chinese virus". The fact that everyone who has responded so far has ignored the question (instead lecturing on widely known trivia about Spanish Flu) would suggest there is nothing offensive about it and they are just being busy bodies. Trump has done plenty wrong FWIW.

    cause viruses don't have nationalities. this thing is killing thousands and trump gives it a nationality. it's something a 10 year old would do.


  • #36
    Duggie2012
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    walshb wrote: »
    8.45

    Cheers


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  • #37
    Blueshoe
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    froog wrote: »
    cause viruses don't have nationalities. this thing is killing thousands and trump gives it a nationality. it's something a 10 year old would do.

    Like the people who named the Spanish flu. Bunch of ten year olds.


  • #38
    walshb
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Get off most social media. You'll be in a much better mood.

    Why didn’t I think of that!!!


  • #39
    digitaldr
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    Very damning editorial on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.


  • #40
    freshpopcorn
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  • #41
    jamesf85
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    It seems to be still on a huge upward trajectory in Italy, how is it so far ahead of the rest of Europe? The got in from Germany no?

    Also the drug Remdesivir but not be the answer either. I'm sure medics in Italy have tried this now and we'd have heard if it was working


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  • #42
    fritzelly
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    Bad day for France

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240353581104013318


  • #43
    branie2
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    digitaldr wrote: »
    Very damning [URL="Scientists have been sounding the alarm on coronavirus for months. Why did Britain fail to act?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard"]editorial[/URL] on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

    It's blank!


  • #44
    What Username Guidelines
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Like the people who named the Spanish flu. Bunch of ten year olds.

    The Spanish named it the Spanish flu. It was knocking around for a while and when it arrived in Spain they didn’t realise it came from outside.


  • #45
    Quantum Erasure
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    The much increased level of testing is going to push numbers up quickly anyway.

    could be up around 100 for today


  • #46
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    jamesf85 wrote: »
    It seems to be still on a huge upward trajectory in Italy, how is it so far ahead of the rest of Europe? The got in from Germany no?

    Also the drug Remdesivir but not be the answer either. I'm sure medics in Italy have tried this now and we'd have heard if it was working

    I feel that the Italians are in too much chaos to work on medical trials.


  • #47
    Funsterdelux
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    digitaldr wrote: »
    Very damning on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.


    Link is wrong


  • #48
    murpho999
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    I see card contactless payments are being raised to €50. That's grand but many people will spend more than that on a big shop and you have to put card in after 3 uses.

    For those who can then Apple Pay, Google Pay, Garmin Pay etc that can be used on phones and smartwatches is the solution. No limit on spend (Apart from Tesco which is very annoying) and no 3 in a row pin requirement.

    At present, Allied Irish Bank Bunq, KBC, N26, Monese,Ulster Bank and Revolut can be used this way.

    Also remember neither the phone or the card have to touch the actual machine despite people always doing it and being called "tap".


  • #49
    Signore Fancy Pants
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    Gods Gift wrote: »
    So what yall think about this fecking virus thing?

    What Virus?


  • #50
    Blueshoe
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    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    The Spanish named it the Spanish flu. It was knocking around for a while and when it arrived in Spain they didn’t realise it came from outside.

    Bunch of ten year olds. It's their own fault for not knowing.


  • #51
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    digitaldr wrote: »
    Very damning [URL="Scientists have been sounding the alarm on coronavirus for months. Why did Britain fail to act?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard"]editorial[/URL] on the UK approach in the Guardian today from the editor of the Lancet. Well worth a read.

    This is the actual page.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong


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  • #52
    tuxy
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    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    The Spanish named it the Spanish flu. It was knocking around for a while and when it arrived in Spain they didn’t realise it came from outside.

    Spain was not in the war and their media was free to report on it.
    Countries in the war had media restrictions on bad news.
    Spain was the only one talking about it as it was ongoing.


  • #53
    Jim_Hodge
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    Not Social Media's finest hour.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0318/1123964-fake-news-covid-19-advice/


  • #54
    froog
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Like the people who named the Spanish flu. Bunch of ten year olds.

    did you know the spanish called it the french flu?

    you're exactly right, bunch of 10 year olds then too.


  • #55
    DevilsHaircut
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    Re NSAIDs/Nurofen/ibuprofen, real-time observational evidence takes a while to meet 'proper' evidence threshold and make it into official guidance. This virus was only discovered in December.

    Self-medicating with the over-the-counter drugs that people have been stockpiling will do nothing to 'cure' them of the virus or improve their survival chances (in the unlikely event that an individual has severe infection).

    Self-medicating for Covid 19 symptoms with NSAIDs such as ibuprofen may be harmful, according to the French health authorities, and is now discouraged by the HSE and the NHS (although the wording is unfortunately ambiguous).

    Fever is a symptom, not a disease. Any self-medicating advice from health professionals such as 'take paracetamol' is purely to relieve discomfort. https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...ver-in-adults2

    Panic-buyers cleared the shelves of Nurofen and other meds. Any SELF-medicating for Covid 19, particularly with NSAIDs, must be discouraged.


  • #56
    indough
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    jamesf85 wrote: »
    It seems to be still on a huge upward trajectory in Italy, how is it so far ahead of the rest of Europe? The got in from Germany no?

    Also the drug Remdesivir but not be the answer either. I'm sure medics in Italy have tried this now and we'd have heard if it was working

    I doubt remdesivir is a readily available drug in Italy, they’ll be using hiv drugs and chloroquine I’d imagine


  • #57
    Kidchameleon
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    walshb wrote: »
    It’s offensive because Trump wants it to be. Deliberately making it so.

    He is an absolute toerag!


    No, its offensive because you choose to be offended by it. He is just stating a fact.


  • #58
    dummy_crusher
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    Someone I know who has an underlying condition is still working and using public transport daily to travel to and from work. I've checked the stats HERE (section: Case fatality rate of COVID-19 by preexisting health conditions).

    They have one of these conditions and are between 20-40 yrs old. Am I reading this correctly that if you have, say, HyperTension you are 6-7 times more likely to die from the virus? i.e. 6% vs 0.9%?

    I have suggested to this person that they should perhaps be self-isolating but I don't want to scare them by presenting any figures, especially ones I possibly don't fully comprehend. They work in retail and their employers have stated that they will be keeping the place open even if non-essential retail outlets are ordered to close - I believe they have applied for special status in this regard based upon the products they sell.


  • #59
    branie2
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    This is the actual page.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-uk-expert-advice-wrong

    Thanks for that!


  • #60
    Blueshoe
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    froog wrote: »
    did you know the spanish called it the french flu?

    you're exactly right, bunch of 10 year olds then too.

    That's actually an insult to 10 year olds. Bunch of 8 year olds


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  • #61
    darjeeling
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    Aegir wrote: »
    It was interesting what the U.K. chief scientific officer was saying about developing a test that not only tells you if you have it, but can also tell if you have had it.

    While there is the likelihood that lots of people have it and don’t know, there is also the likelihood there are people who have had it and fought it off without developing any symptoms.

    That's antibody testing, also called serology / serologic testing.
    Lots of companies are developing tests, including 15 min tests using a drop of blood that can be done in doctors' surgeries, at the bedside etc.

    They tell you if someone has been infected in the past, and can give a sense of whether that was recent (~7-15 days) or happened further in the past.

    These tests can help confirm diagnosis for patients who were infected ~1-2 weeks earlier.

    They will also will be really useful for answering lots of questions -
    How many people have been infected?
    How common is infection in children? (implications for school closures, contact between children & elderly)
    Does everyone who has the disease develop long-term immunity? (currently info seems to say yes)
    How accurate are current PCR tests for active virus?
    Are there links between cases (assuming we can get the numbers down to where this becomes useful)


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