CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

18-03-2020 06:45PM

So the UK are now panicking and trying to play catch up from the looks of it

I thought last week they made some "scientific plan" to immunize people on mass.
Such gutless leadership.

Can't even stick to the convictions they set out in the first place.
Always have to be awkward and different. "We are UK we will fight it our way!"

Now they realized it's pure bull**** and they are so wrong but the damage has already been done.

Why wait Friday to close the schools. Close them now. What a mess.

otnomart · 18-03-2020 06:45PM

wakka12 wrote: »

A 37 year old in Madrid and a 17 year old in Korea both without any underlying conditions have died, the Korean boy is suspected /undetermined but he has tested positive in some tests, negative in others. While these instances are still very rare we will see them from time to time as there are such a large number of cases now but perhaps it might make young people take this more seriously and realise they arent invincible

The teenager in Korea tested negative for COVID 19 eight times but also tested positive in some tests, so currently it is still undetermined .
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/18/South-Korea-teen-dies-after-testing-negative-for-COVID-19/7711584456914/
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/03/119_286401.html

Article about the death of the Spanish man:
https://www.abc.es/espana/madrid/abci-muere-guardia-civil-37-anos-coronavirus-alcorcon-primera-victima-este-cuerpo-202003181445_noticia.html

Absolutely.
from Belgium:

Lung scans of COVID-19 patients in their 30s show "scary picture"
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2020/03/17/lung-scans-covid-19-thirtysomethings-show-scary-picture/

Hooter23 · 18-03-2020 06:45PM

Over 99% of cornavirus patients in Italy who died had pre-existing health problems...OVER 99% ! ...With an average age of 80 years old....

peasant · 18-03-2020 06:46PM

I think this has been mentioned here before but it's worth repeating :

One of the differences between Germany and Italy is that Italy test for the virus posthumously, Germany doesn't.

In other words...a lot of dead Italian people test positively for the virus, but that doesn't always mean that they died of it just with it.
Germany doesn't test for this at all.

dan786 · 18-03-2020 06:46PM

With UK closing schools and not going ahead with exams. I wonder what measures will be taken in regards to Leaving Cert students this year.

Stevieluvsye · 18-03-2020 06:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So the UK are now panicking and trying to play catch up from the looks of it

I thought last week they made some "scientific plan" to immunize people on mass.
Such gutless leadership.

Can't even stick to the convictions they set out in the first place.
Always have to be awkward and different. "We are UK we will fight it our way!"

Now they realized it's pure bull**** and they are so wrong but the damage has already been done.

Why wait Friday to close the schools. Close them now. What a mess.

You just take care of yourself tom

Ulysses Gaze · 18-03-2020 06:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So the UK are now panicking and trying to play catch up from the looks of it

I thought last week they made some "scientific plan" to immunize people on mass.
Such gutless leadership.

Can't even stick to the convictions they set out in the first place.
Always have to be awkward and different. "We are UK we will fight it our way!"

Now they realized it's pure bull**** and they are so wrong but the damage has already been done.

Why wait Friday to close the schools. Close them now. What a mess.

Pure Gallipoli type planning that is going to needlessly cost the lives of thousands.

They have a history of this type of idiotic planning.

Blaze420 · 18-03-2020 06:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So the UK are now panicking and trying to play catch up from the looks of it

I thought last week they made some "scientific plan" to immunize people on mass.
Such gutless leadership.

Can't even stick to the convictions they set out in the first place.
Always have to be awkward and different. "We are UK we will fight it our way!"

Now they realized it's pure bull**** and they are so wrong but the damage has already been done.

Why wait Friday to close the schools. Close them now. What a mess.

They took a big gamble and lost big time, they will be Italy 3.0 thanks to the imbecile in charge.

Steve F · 18-03-2020 06:47PM

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 99% of cornavirus patients in Italy who died had pre-existing health problems...OVER 99% !

please provide source
This indeed would be comforting to a lot of folks

Gods Gift · 18-03-2020 06:47PM

The Uk is making an absolute balls of it and they’re going to take us down with them.

Blaze420 · 18-03-2020 06:47PM

dan786 wrote: »

With UK closing schools and not going ahead with exams. I wonder what measures will be taken in regards to Leaving Cert students this year.

Who cares? Bigger things to worry about than the leaving cert now

History Queen · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

leavingirl wrote: »

The teachers want to remain on full pay. That's grand. Let's check in again in 12 months when the 2nd emergency budget is announced and all teachers get a 20% pay cut.

The least ye could do is work for Simon over the next six months.

Why?--- sorry didn't finish post--- why would teachers get a 20%cut? Also many of us have volunteered our evenings/weekends/Easter break. What have you done?

splinter65 · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

Beasty wrote: »

Just to be clear - this is speculation. I am of a similar view, but at this stage, AFAIK, the official line is they are only closed until Easter

By this Friday they need to be frank with people so that we know what the likely scenario is going to be. No need to protect adults from the truth....even the ones who are today dumping the food they bought in a panic last Friday.

caveat emptor · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

Didn't know the government paid such close attention to boards. 9 days ago.

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1240325078161797122?s=20

caveat emptor wrote: »

Originally Posted by caveat emptor View Post
Bill gates said treat it like a war. He smarter than most of us. Other countries are already doing that. WHO says in community transmission

"Implement all-of-society resilience, repurpose government, business continuity, and community services plans"

Germany has banned export of PPE
so has China
India has banned export of 28 active pharmaceutical ingredient (API) for key medicines including paracetamol.

Countries are using their resources to survive. We have the expertise / production capability to make tests in the morning if we needed to.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...sn=1c8ee193_10

Quote:

MadYaker wrote: »

View Post
It must be comforting to have such a simple world view. Even if we could simply make more who would carry out the tests? Where’s the lab space? It’s just not possible. They are prioritising which is the correct thing to do.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Not simple. Given the global nature of supply change I imagine there will be excess capacity due to precursor shortages / restricted supply from India /China.

UK planning to "feed the nation" with basic food etc. We have moved from "it'll be grand to "nothing we can do" attitude. It's progress but not the right kind.

There is **** loads we can. Granted we are not there yet but we need to anticipate the exponential growth.
WFH where possible
Increase contactless limit on cards to prevent transmission via keypad.
mobile / drivethrough testing etc.
Schools / uni suspended.
Ban the ****ing parade

Mervyn Skidmore · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 99% of cornavirus patients in Italy who died had pre-existing health problems...OVER 99% !

What's that figure from?

DOCARCH · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

dan786 wrote: »

With UK closing schools and not going ahead with exams. I wonder what measures will be taken in regards to Leaving Cert students this year.

I think LC will go ahead, but possibly delayed? I think JC may not go ahead.

No source for that, just what I think might happen!

Corkgirl20 · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

Quote: leavingirl
The teachers want to remain on full pay. That's grand. Let's check in again in 12 months when the 2nd emergency budget is announced and all teachers get a 20% pay cut.

The least ye could do is work for Simon over the next six months.

Leave the teachers alone for God’s sake. The amount of teachers out there who are helping mind the kid’s of healthcare staff. I’m a teacher and my co workers aren’t at home on their arses most of them are out minding healthcare worker’s children.

My mum is a 66 year old retired nurse and has gone back to nursing today to help out , my sister is a qualified nurse but working as a teacher now and she has put herself forward to work in the hospital if they need her.

I would be more than willing to help out in anyway possible if schools remain close and so would many other teachers. So stop on about teachers!

Shn99 · 18-03-2020 06:48PM

8:45 for conference

18-03-2020 06:49PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

You just take care of yourself tom

I'm recovering well Jazlynn Ashy Barefaced^ for asking

SummerTime14 · 18-03-2020 06:49PM

Any chance the arguments over mass and religion can be posted to another thread instead of the main Covid 19 one?

dan786 · 18-03-2020 06:49PM

£1 = €1.07

How long till 1:1.

DOCARCH · 18-03-2020 06:49PM

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 99% of cornavirus patients in Italy who died had pre-existing health problems...OVER 99% !

I don't think that's true?

jackboy · 18-03-2020 06:49PM

peasant wrote: »

I think this has been mentioned here before but it's worth repeating :

One of the differences between Germany and Italy is that Italy test for the virus posthumously, Germany doesn't.

In other words...a lot of dead Italian people test positively for the virus, but that doesn't always mean that they died of it just with it.
Germany doesn't test for this at all.

If this is true then the Italy figures may not be valid. Do we know the increase in numbers of deceased now in Italy?

Snowbiee21 · 18-03-2020 06:49PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I wouldn't trust the chinese numbers

I woudnt trust your sources ..

18-03-2020 06:50PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Clearly this appears to be true but why is it? Considering the incubation period is 3-5 days in the vast majority of cases wouldnt one expect a huge reduction in number of new caes after this period?

The first hurdle to jump is to get out of exponential growth, which Italy is doing. There are still new cases, but as a % of the overall they are starting to flatten out.

Go here and click the 'logarathmic' option on the graph for new cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Compare to the same graph for USA - still showing very sharp upwards trend.

The restrictions are working for Italy. They will also work for us.

Wibbs · 18-03-2020 06:50PM

Hooter23 wrote: »

Over 99% of cornavirus patients in Italy who died had pre-existing health problems...OVER 99% !

Well given the vast majority are over 70 that's also a given H. Few 70+ year olds aren't on some sort of medication for something. A lot of even 50 year olds are. I can think of four in my extended circle that are 50 or younger on statins, BP meds, diabetes meds and the like.

begbysback · 18-03-2020 06:50PM

peasant wrote: »

I think this has been mentioned here before but it's worth repeating :

One of the differences between Germany and Italy is that Italy test for the virus posthumously, Germany doesn't.

In other words...a lot of dead Italian people test positively for the virus, but that doesn't always mean that they died of it just with it.
Germany doesn't test for this at all.

Is there any data of Italian deaths per day, pre corona? Trying to find some online but its awash with current corona related data.

yosser hughes · 18-03-2020 06:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So the UK are now panicking and trying to play catch up from the looks of it

I thought last week they made some "scientific plan" to immunize people on mass.
Such gutless leadership.

Can't even stick to the convictions they set out in the first place.
Always have to be awkward and different. "We are UK we will fight it our way!"

Now they realized it's pure bull**** and they are so wrong but the damage has already been done.

Why wait Friday to close the schools. Close them now. What a mess.

Why are people so obsessed at what the U.K is or isn't doing? We have enough to deal with here; with an already shambolic health service, which is not free at the point of entry unlike the NHS.
People in Ireland should realise how badly served we have been for years with regard to the management our health service for generations.

Stevieluvsye · 18-03-2020 06:50PM

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I woudnt trust your sources ..

Yeah, that's right. They have all been wrong to date

moonlighting_1 · 18-03-2020 06:51PM

There is a leaked report from America going around the webs
they are planning for 18 months crisis.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP