CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Funkfield · 18-03-2020 02:57PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

Hope thats not a typo

amadangomor · 18-03-2020 02:57PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Yeah no problem you great orange ape, we'll just shut up shop here and start a factory in the US, can you give us until Monday to get that sorted? Cool, thanks.

How someone so fcuking retarded could get elected as president is a sad indictment on the US electorate.

I generally wouldn't defend the Orange eejit but he didn't say this at all

See for yourself.
https://youtu.be/vvdjqrxSOFk?t=4194

Sardonicat · 18-03-2020 02:58PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

A fan of al frescoe tugging?

Snow Garden · 18-03-2020 02:58PM

US2 wrote: »

You can be sure its mostly hypochondriacs clogging up the testing labs. Plenty of them on here too .

Without a shadow of a doubt. The same people that were selfish buying last week.

lak · 18-03-2020 02:58PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Scottish & Welsh schools closing this Friday!

I presume NI schools will follow suit?
(If they haven't done so already)?

They'll do what they always do, wait till England tell them what to do.

tromtipp · 18-03-2020 02:58PM

Funkfield wrote: »

Well, yeah, but they have to say that.

But seriously? Dettol has been effective against previous strains to 99.9% (or whatever) according to them. I was happy to be disinfecting with it.

I wouldn't. 0.1% error is too high. Use soap and water, as advised by experts, or a high alcohol gel if you can't do that. Bleach is useful for hard surfaces. But 99.9% leaves thousands of nasties free to run wild.

bennyl10 · 18-03-2020 02:58PM

Had a call to the Gp today who has advised should be tested(Partner was in Rome, dry cough, tightness in chest)

Any one have any idea how long it currently is taking for the HSE to even arrange an appointment for testing

18-03-2020 02:58PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

I hope that's not true - I'm one of those 400k.

It's not. You (and I) are at higher risk but it is not probably going to kill you

KGLady · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

The only bit of comfort that i would take albeit not pleasant is the vomiting, that isn't a symptom of covid, also the temp isn't over 38.

Hopefully just one of the normal doses that does the sounds.

The vomiting was soley part of the cold body temperature episode, when we'd warm her up she would get sick again and then the coldness of her body and shivering would return afterwards. When on to the phone with the GP we were told it something that happens when some kids fight infection that doesn't express itself as a fever. Never experienced it before but I'll take their word on it. My own temp hasn't exceed 37 either, and there's a LOT of people who are confirmed with covid19 who didnt have high temps at all.

The cough and the lung pains and inability to breathe when at rest and in good quality air are enough symptoms that we're considered likely to have it by the GP and waiting on test contact.

Just putting this all out there so that there's no complacency around Children can't be sick with it, or No Fever = No Covid19. Its more nuanced. Once we've results I'll come back to this thread and clarify anyway

Drumpot · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

US2 wrote: »

You can be sure its mostly hypochondriacs clogging up the testing labs. Plenty of them on here too .

This is a post that really does show the kind of ignorance some people are spouting. I think alot of people dont really think through their logic, they just think something and if it suits whatever story they want to tell themselves, they run with it.

Ive been preparing for this since early February, taking my own measures, including visting my doctor well in advance of the rush. I would classify myself as a very cautious person when it comes to my health, others might call it being a "hypochondriac".

I feel very relaxed about what is going on because I got emotionally and physically prepared like Dr Aylward recommended weeks ago. The people I have heard who are being tested have probably not taken this seriously enough, certainly 2 different people who are being tested went to Italy regardless of the outbreak. I would say there are a few Cheltenham dopes getting tested this week aswell. I would guess alot of the people being tested are just scared, not necessarily hypochodriacs.

Ive had a cough (seasonal/allergy) since January that just wont go away. But over the last 2 days myself and my wife have had moments when we did wonder if either of us were getting mild symptoms. Our plan is to self isolate if thats happens and only contact authorties if it gets bad or we need to be tested. I also have a plan to measure my BP, heart-rate and temp and keep a record so I wont waste their time if I do need to contact them.

But asides from that, there are alot of people still struggling to come to terms with this. To be fair, this is probably the scariest thing that most people in our country has had to suffer in their lifetimes, I still think some people are not grasping this.

iwillyeah1234 · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Follow rules to the letter, they wouldn't be heading down to the off licence for bags of cans, inviting all their mates for a laugh and a virus party.

there is that too. they follow the rules in a big way.

kevcos · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Big increase in Taiwan today, +23 to 100 cases in total

But but Taiwan were the poster boys of the Shutdown, I just refuse to believe cases are rising there!

amadangomor · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

:D:D:D that should say WALK !!!

At least you didn't send it to your mother. Better check all old messages to her just in case

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 18-03-2020 02:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Herd immunity has been suspended because most experts are in the pocket of big pharma. They want us to sit around for 18 months so none of us have any immunity to it and then they'll sell their vaccine to the entire planet.

Unchecked, 10% of positive tests require hospitalisation. Actual numbers of infected are believed to be at least 15x higher than positive tests.

So 0.6% of infected require hospitalization. We can identify most of those - elderly, diabetes etc. Put these people in very effective isolation and you can easily reduce the amount of people requiring hospitalisation 10-fold.

Then you let the virus run through the population, 0.06% of infected will require hospitalisation. It won't be all at once, most will recover quickly, we can handle that. 99.94% of infected will get no worse than a flu.

In 6 months time most of us will have caught it. A test to identify if you are immune and non-spreading will be over-the-counter, cheap and widely available. You can begin lifting the isolation one group at a time. They will still need to practice social distancing but their family members can all get a test to see if they are immune and non-spreading. We can wear colored badges to notify others that we are immune.

So most coming out of isolation will not get it. The damage to the economy and daily life will be minimal.

Nice username.

teotwawki definition:

a catastrophic event that destroys the existing institutions and norms of society.

I'm guessing with a username like that, you must fancy yourself as a bit of a survivalist / prepper eh?

You'd like that scenario wouldn't you? :rolleyes:

Let the virus run through "the herd"... while you're safely tucked up in your doomsday bunker, watching everyone else in panic and fear!

No thanks... we'll fight this thing head on and defeat it.

Societies have done it before, with less knowledge and less technology than we currently have!

You stay in your bunker and keep yourself safe!

Kivaro · 18-03-2020 03:00PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

Hmmm.
Freudian slip?

Or just an extrovert?

ArchXStanton · 18-03-2020 03:00PM

Getting loads of WhatsApp messages from Chinese sellers I used to deal with, no hello or anything just a picture of a N95 masks, shrewd business people them Chinese.

According to one, some head doctor over there said they would be finished with the virus by the end of the month...

Funsterdelux · 18-03-2020 03:02PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Whats the story with hotter countries, like Nigeria, India ... they don't seem to have that many cases, I know they wouldn't be testing much, but it's about a month since the 1st official case appeared in Nigeria - surely there would be some unexplained deaths - from flu like illnesses that would make them test more ?

Or could it be the heat here making it less transmissible ?

There probably 50 other diseases worse that youd catch there.

Maybe covid is scared of ebola

Harry Palmr · 18-03-2020 03:02PM

When is today's media briefing by HSE?

bekker · 18-03-2020 03:02PM

KGLady wrote: »

Waiting on a test for myself and our youngest who is 7. She's been sick, at one stage worringly bad and thats despite being healthy kid all round. She went from a tickley throat and annoying feeling in her head (not quite full headache) last week, to a point where she had an inverse temperature thing going on, where she was cold to touch turned pale white and was throwing up. The cough she has is dry and she's out of breath if there's no windows open, also complains of pains in her chest when active and also on the top of her belly (diaphram). When we are outside in the garden she feels so much better and is more alert. She's not once had a temp over 36 so far.

Aside from the scary cold body vomiting episode which lasted a few hours on Sat night, she's in good form. Back eating though less than usual and quite happy overall. I've been about 2 days behind her in symptoms and so we're waiting on the call from the HSE since Monday. Himself and our older two kids are both grand. She's had mild pneumonia once before, unsure if that contributed to her being symptomatic, but looking forward to getting her tested so we can have her lungs given a decent checking over.

Did HSE advise your daughter and yourself to self-isolation regime from the rest of the family, use separate sets utensils etc. Have you been provided with masks?

Not suggesting above is necessary in your case, just seeking to find out what HSE SOP* is for suspected cases awaiting testing, or waiting for results of tests, as an increasing backlog appears to be building up.

*standard operating procedure

STB. · 18-03-2020 03:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Herd immunity has been suspended because most experts are in the pocket of big pharma. They want us to sit around for 18 months so none of us have any immunity to it and then they'll sell their vaccine to the entire planet.

Unchecked, 10% of positive tests require hospitalisation. Actual numbers of infected are believed to be at least 15x higher than positive tests.

So 0.6% of infected require hospitalization. We can identify most of those - elderly, diabetes etc. Put these people in very effective isolation and you can easily reduce the amount of people requiring hospitalisation 10-fold.

Then you let the virus run through the population, 0.06% of infected will require hospitalisation. It won't be all at once, most will recover quickly, we can handle that. 99.94% of infected will get no worse than a flu.

In 6 months time most of us will have caught it. A test to identify if you are immune and non-spreading will be over-the-counter, cheap and widely available. You can begin lifting the isolation one group at a time. They will still need to practice social distancing but their family members can all get a test to see if they are immune and non-spreading. We can wear colored badges to notify others that we are immune.

So most coming out of isolation will not get it. The damage to the economy and daily life will be minimal.

See ALL this. This is horseshít. It's made up unsubstantiated rubbish in your head and it is dangerous misinformation.

The source of the virus is unknown.

The asymptomatic nature of the virus is already known.

The ability to pass it on regardless exists regardless.

The effects of the re-occurence of the virus are unknown. The ability for it to re-occur is already known.

The effectiveness of having the antibodies is unknown.

There is more than one strain which most certainly is and has mutated.

There is no vaccine and no guarantees that there will be one in "6 months"

18-03-2020 03:03PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Getting loads of WhatsApp messages from Chinese sellers I used to deal with, no hello or anything just a picture of a N95 masks, shrewd business people them Chinese.

According to one, some head doctor over there said they would be finished with the virus by the end of the month...

I mean if you cant trust that definite source of infallible information...

Spook_ie · 18-03-2020 03:03PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

:D:D:D that should say WALK !!!

Well now, wonder why your autocorrect did that then?

18-03-2020 03:03PM

daheff wrote: »

You know that Ireland has one of the highest rates of asthma in the world, right? something like 400K people in Ireland currently have asthma (About 10%)

so basically you want to give 400K of the population (9%) a virus that could and probably will kill them.

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No, I don't "basically want to" do that. Can you read? Those in high-risk categories would be placed in effective quarantine - elderly, asmathic, immune-comprimised etc. It will be a large number of people.

tromtipp · 18-03-2020 03:03PM

Funkfield wrote: »

Looks like tromtipp was talking $hite. I wonder why? No need for it.

the word you were looking for was sense, or maybe science. Don't be so naive (or so rude).

iwillyeah1234 · 18-03-2020 03:04PM

kevcos wrote: »

But but Taiwan were the poster boys of the Shutdown, I just refuse to believe cases are rising there!

staged clampdown, to "flatten the curve"

basically the idea is , you clamp down HARD , to prevent the peak.

Then give folks a chance to go out and get supplies etc for a few days -ease off for a few days.

Then clamp down hard again.

Hector Savage · 18-03-2020 03:04PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

There probably 50 other diseases worse that youd catch there.

Maybe covid is scared of ebola

Id love to know, the warming season could really improve things if this is indeed seasonal like other corona viruses.

plodder · 18-03-2020 03:05PM

josip wrote: »

At this stage it might actually be better for them to stick with it and there's a chance they reach herd immunity.

The worst option would be to try for herd immunity and after a couple of weeks to give up and change to trying to slow the spread.
Then you've no chance of achieving either.

The text of what the Dutch PM said in announcing the policy is at the link below:

https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/16/coronavirus-full-text-prime-minister-ruttes-national-address-english

Seems like they are aiming for a middle path between letting it run unchecked and "endlessly trying to stop it" while assuming that their health system can cope with the path they have chosen.

No idea whether it is the right decision, but it does explain why different countries are taking slightly different paths, based on the perceived strength and resilience of their healthcare systems.

18-03-2020 03:05PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Ryanair to ground most flights from Tuesday next

''Ryanair will ground most, if not all, of its flights by next Tuesday, it said, adding that between now and then its flight schedules will be cut by over 80 per cent.''

Source here

18-03-2020 03:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, I don't "basically want to" do that. Can you read? Those in high-risk categories would be placed in effective quarantine - elderly, asmathic, immune-comprimised etc. It will be a large number of people.

You don't have the faintest clue what you're talking about.

joeguevara · 18-03-2020 03:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No, I don't "basically want to" do that. Can you read? Those in high-risk categories would be placed in effective quarantine - elderly, asmathic, immune-comprimised etc. It will be a large number of people.

Herd immunity only works if vast majority are immune or vaccinated. No evidence it works when no one is.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP