CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

mloc123 · 18-03-2020 02:43PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I really hope those testers doing drive through testing disinfect between each test. Sticking their hands in people's mouths is asking for spreading covid19 if they don't get it right.

Quick, get this person in as a consultant for this crisis.

We need to make sure that they highly trained medical staff learn as much as they can from you about limiting the spread of germs... any other words of wisdom? Maybe advise surgeons to wash their hands before cutting people open?

stephenjmcd · 18-03-2020 02:43PM

Balmed Out wrote: »

My daughter coughed all February and son on course to cough all March its just something else that's been going around long before coronavirus.

Same as myself, got an awful dose in Jan for a week but the cough lasted at least 2-3 weeks.

There is something else going around but everyone who has a cough now or temp seems to automatically think it's covid, this is why the system has such a backlog now

iwillyeah1234 · 18-03-2020 02:44PM

SuspectZero wrote: »

Some questions some might be able to shine a light on for me. Ireland is currently seeing a doubling of cases just under every 4 days and the government is saying the model predicts it will continue like this. this infection growth rate is similar to the early days infection rate in both China and Italy where there were no controls in place for a long period of time. It was also said that the population median age in Italy was a prime cause of the high death rate and infection rate. was just looking at the datachecker graph and statistics and one sticks out.

Japan's infection growth rate from day one was a doubling every 7 days, Japan also has the highest median age in the entire world yet it has the second lowest infection rate in the world, this even though social distancing and banning of mass gatherings weren't put into place until 51 days after patient zero was discovered in Japan.

So why despite more stricter measures been put in place in Europe, Ireland, UK and The US earlier and harder has the infection growth rate been almost identical to places like Italy and China? And why is the growth rate in Japan been 50% slower even before strict measures were put in?

Japan's culture is naturally socially distant.
They bow rather than shaking hands.
They wear face masks all the time , if they are ill ( and also to counter act pollution).

They also don't naturally strike up friendships with outsiders. ( they aren't naturally sociable with foreigners)

Japan's culture is probably what , inadvertently, saved them.

facehugger99 · 18-03-2020 02:45PM

SuspectZero wrote: »

So why despite more stricter measures been put in place in Europe, Ireland, UK and The US earlier and harder has the infection growth rate been almost identical to places like Italy and China? And why is the growth rate in Japan been 50% slower even before strict measures were put in?

One obvious answer is that the measures are having fcuk all affect on the infection rate.

They are through having an incredible affect on the economy - 340,000 predicted to be out of work by the end of the week - numbers that Covid19 could only dream of.

blade1 · 18-03-2020 02:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Conspiracy theory forum >>>

That's not really a conspiracy theory forum.
It's a trap disguised as a forum to get all your information so they can hunt you down

daheff · 18-03-2020 02:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Herd immunity has been suspended because most experts are in the pocket of big pharma. They want us to sit around for 18 months so none of us have any immunity to it and then they'll sell their vaccine to the entire planet.

Unchecked, 10% of positive tests require hospitalisation. Actual numbers of infected are believed to be at least 15x higher than positive tests.

So 0.6% of infected require hospitalization. We can identify most of those - elderly, diabetes etc. Put these people in very effective isolation and you can easily reduce the amount of people requiring hospitalisation 10-fold.

Then you let the virus run through the population, 0.06% of infected will require hospitalisation. It won't be all at once, most will recover quickly, we can handle that. 99.94% of infected will get no worse than a flu.

In 6 months time most of us will have caught it. A test to identify if you are immune and non-spreading will be over-the-counter, cheap and widely available. You can begin lifting the isolation one group at a time. They will still need to practice social distancing but their family members can all get a test to see if they are immune and non-spreading. We can wear colored badges to notify others that we are immune.

So most coming out of isolation will not get it. The damage to the economy and daily life will be minimal.

You know that Ireland has one of the highest rates of asthma in the world, right? something like 400K people in Ireland currently have asthma (About 10%)

so basically you want to give 400K of the population (9%) a virus that could and probably will kill them.

US2 · 18-03-2020 02:46PM

You can be sure its mostly hypochondriacs clogging up the testing labs. Plenty of them on here too .

murpho999 · 18-03-2020 02:47PM

gabeeg wrote: »

346 new cases in the Netherlands. 15 deaths.

The mad fools are still going down the herd immunity route. They're in huge trouble.

Lived there for a few years and not surprised.

Always found them somewhat arrogant and complacent about things. Wouldn't really accept regulation or rules.

I was in touch with a Dutch friend last night who said that closing schools is pointless in Netherlands as kids don't carry or transmit the virus. I disagreed and she said that the official Dutch Health Department is saying so.

Sure enough I went on their website and they're saying that kids are not an at risk group and they do not carry the virus and it's ok for kids to play outside with each other.

Here's a link.
Link above in Dutch but it can be translated.

How can they have such a different message and thinking on this than us?

Also, if true, why have the Dutch now close all schools?

Volthar · 18-03-2020 02:47PM

Yakult wrote: »

He has been saying that for years now. Will never happen. Too much money invested here by the companies, billions, that upping and leaving would never happen.

I agree too much money invested here. Literally billions and billions and billions!
https://bit.ly/2x2y9cS

stephenjmcd · 18-03-2020 02:47PM

KGLady wrote: »

Waiting on a test for myself and our youngest who is 7. She's been sick, at one stage worringly bad and thats despite being healthy kid all round. She went from a tickley throat and annoying feeling in her head (not quite full headache) last week, to a point where she had an inverse temperature thing going on, where she was cold to touch turned pale white and was throwing up. The cough she has is dry and she's out of breath if there's no windows open, also complains of pains in her chest when active and also on the top of her belly (diaphram). When we are outside in the garden she feels so much better and is more alert. She's not once had a temp over 36 so far.

Aside from the scary cold body vomiting episode which lasted a few hours on Sat night, she's in good form. Back eating though less than usual and quite happy overall. I've been about 2 days behind her in symptoms and so we're waiting on the call from the HSE since Monday. Himself and our older two kids are both grand. She's had mild pneumonia once before, unsure if that contributed to her being symptomatic, but looking forward to getting her tested so we can have her lungs given a decent checking over.

The only bit of comfort that i would take albeit not pleasant is the vomiting, that isn't a symptom of covid, also the temp isn't over 38.

Hopefully just one of the normal doses that does the sounds.

Spideog Rua · 18-03-2020 02:48PM

SuspectZero wrote: »

Some questions some might be able to shine a light on for me. Ireland is currently seeing a doubling of cases just under every 4 days and the government is saying the model predicts it will continue like this. this infection growth rate is similar to the early days infection rate in both China and Italy where there were no controls in place for a long period of time. It was also said that the population median age in Italy was a prime cause of the high death rate and infection rate. was just looking at the datachecker graph and statistics and one sticks out.

Japan's infection growth rate from day one was a doubling every 7 days, Japan also has the highest median age in the entire world yet it has the second lowest infection rate in the world, this even though social distancing and banning of mass gatherings weren't put into place until 51 days after patient zero was discovered in Japan.

So why despite more stricter measures been put in place in Europe, Ireland, UK and The US earlier and harder has the infection growth rate been almost identical to places like Italy and China? And why is the growth rate in Japan been 50% slower even before strict measures were put in?

We were too slow...the govt dilly dallied and dint make decisions until it was too late. Nobwe pay the price of having to wait 7 to 10 days to the spread to slow down

Spook_ie · 18-03-2020 02:49PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Didn't current CSA to the British Government Patrick Vallance, who advocated Herd Immunity, used to run the R&D Division of GSK?

But wasn't it also pushed by their CMO

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-who-are-chris-whitty-and-sir-patrick-vallance-11958237

Right at the top of the tree of all science advisers is Professor Chris Whitty.

He is simultaneously England's chief medical officer and the UK department of health's top scientific adviser.

Luckily he is an epidemiologist - meaning his specialty is diseases.

DeanAustin · 18-03-2020 02:49PM

daheff wrote: »

You know that Ireland has one of the highest rates of asthma in the world, right? something like 400K people in Ireland currently have asthma (About 10%)

so basically you want to give 400K of the population (9%) a virus that could and probably will kill them.

I hope that's not true - I'm one of those 400k.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 18-03-2020 02:49PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

Trump back to his petulant nasty self again singling out the pharmaceutical companies based in Ireland saying we need to make our drugs here in the USA.
What a nasty piece of work.

Yeah no problem you great orange ape, we'll just shut up shop here and start a factory in the US, can you give us until Monday to get that sorted? Cool, thanks.

How someone so fcuking retarded could get elected as president is a sad indictment on the US electorate.

silverharp · 18-03-2020 02:50PM

Apparently ventilators can be adapted to be used on 4 people instead of 1 , there will be cross contamination of air but if they have the same virus rewards outweigh the risk in a pinch

facehugger99 · 18-03-2020 02:52PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

I hope that's not true - I'm one of those 400k.

It's not, just a hysteria-merchant trying to stoke up the panic.

whisky_galore · 18-03-2020 02:52PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Japan's culture is naturally socially distant.
They bow rather than shaking hands.
They wear face masks all the time , if they are ill ( and also to counter act pollution).

They also don't naturally strike up friendships with outsiders. ( they aren't naturally sociable with foreigners)

Japan's culture is probably what , inadvertently, saved them.

Follow rules to the letter, they wouldn't be heading down to the off licence for bags of cans, inviting all their mates for a laugh and a virus party.

olestoepoke · 18-03-2020 02:53PM

Spideog Rua wrote: »

We were too slow...the govt dilly dallied and dint make decisions until it was too late. Nobwe pay the price of having to wait 7 to 10 days to the spread to slow down

Letting thousand go over to Cheltenham was a crazy mistake. Reports in the paper today that some who came back are showing symptoms. Who'd have guessed right.

blade1 · 18-03-2020 02:53PM

BLIZZARD7 · 18-03-2020 02:53PM

Spain at +2,084 cases and 90 new deaths so far today

Hector Savage · 18-03-2020 02:53PM

Whats the story with hotter countries, like Nigeria, India ... they don't seem to have that many cases, I know they wouldn't be testing much, but it's about a month since the 1st official case appeared in Nigeria - surely there would be some unexplained deaths - from flu like illnesses that would make them test more ?

Or could it be the heat here making it less transmissible ?

billybonkers · 18-03-2020 02:54PM

Ryanair to ground most flights from Tuesday next

Hamsterchops · 18-03-2020 02:54PM

Scottish & Welsh schools closing this Friday!

I presume NI schools will follow suit?
(If they haven't done so already)?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 18-03-2020 02:54PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I really hope those testers doing drive through testing disinfect between each test. Sticking their hands in people's mouths is asking for spreading covid19 if they don't get it right.

Your talents are truly wasted here on boards.ie.

amadangomor · 18-03-2020 02:54PM

SuspectZero wrote: »

Some questions some might be able to shine a light on for me. Ireland is currently seeing a doubling of cases just under every 4 days and the government is saying the model predicts it will continue like this. this infection growth rate is similar to the early days infection rate in both China and Italy where there were no controls in place for a long period of time. It was also said that the population median age in Italy was a prime cause of the high death rate and infection rate. was just looking at the datachecker graph and statistics and one sticks out.

Japan's infection growth rate from day one was a doubling every 7 days, Japan also has the highest median age in the entire world yet it has the second lowest infection rate in the world, this even though social distancing and banning of mass gatherings weren't put into place until 51 days after patient zero was discovered in Japan.

So why despite more stricter measures been put in place in Europe, Ireland, UK and The US earlier and harder has the infection growth rate been almost identical to places like Italy and China? And why is the growth rate in Japan been 50% slower even before strict measures were put in?

There are suspicions that the Japanese are cooking the books when it comes to the figures/maybe not testing as much as thy could. The reason could be that PM Abe is trying to push for the Olympics to go ahead. I've only heard this on the radio so this isn't gospel

Hector Savage · 18-03-2020 02:55PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Spain at +2,084 cases and 90 new deaths so far today

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

dan786 · 18-03-2020 02:56PM

RTÉ News understands that the Stormont Executive is on course to confirm that schools will close from the weekend in response to the coronavirus emergency.

The devolved administrations in Scotland and Wales have already announced plans to shut schools. When Northern Ireland confirms its plans it will mirror the strategy introduced south of the border last week.

BLIZZARD7 · 18-03-2020 02:56PM

Big increase in Taiwan today, +23 to 100 cases in total

Hector Savage · 18-03-2020 02:56PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah don't f*cking remind me ... im in the epicentre here can't even go out for a ****

:D:D:D that should say WALK !!!

Spook_ie · 18-03-2020 02:57PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Ah god love them, there is no such thing as a poor taxi driver, they have been creaming it for years, they'll manage fine.

Really, suggest you come and see my bank account then!

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP