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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8672
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?

    You should really disinfect the office as the virus can remain on surfaces for quite a few days and maybe even 28 days, also are colleagues infected but do not know it yet. I would say work from home if possible


  • #8673
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?

    Yes. Staff in close contact should be sent home and if WFH is possible this should be the instruction. A deep clean of the office should also take place.


  • #8674
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Is anyone surprised by this?

    Blown out of proportion, premier league matches hold more than a daily Cheltenham attendance and thousands of Irish travel to these games each week. Not surprised though


  • #8675
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deathbomber wrote: »
    You should really disinfect the office as the virus can remain on surfaces for quite a few days and maybe even 28 days, also are colleagues infected but do not know it yet. I would say work from home if possible


    how long can it lie dormant, up to 14 days before symptoms I hear, is that accurate?


  • #8676
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Positive
    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/17/china-reports-new-progress-in-drug-therapies-against-covid-19

    Whenever i see the word positive i assume someone has tested positive, so i was pleasantly surprised when i clicked the link!


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  • #8677
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,509 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Longing wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1239944663752212481

    Out of all the places in which you believe anything written, nevermind anything written about the EU, Spiked, and the peasant stock staff, is not one you'd even wipe your ass with

    Nobody click through to that link.


  • #8678
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    amadangomor wrote: »
    He said they need to prioritise other cases.

    I presume ones that are in earlier stages so shedding or people with more severe symptoms.

    Would be good for me to know alright because I would know if I have some immunity to it now or not.

    Yeah exactly - you could comfortably visit your folks, do their shopping or whatever

    I think we're moving towards "anyone who wants to be tested can be tested". Not sure if standard testing will pick up past cases though.
    Having seen Contagion, they may have to peel the skin from your forehead and open your skull with a bone-saw. But sure it's better to know.

    Hope you're feeling 100% soon anyways


  • #8679
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,288 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals


  • #8680
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Anyone else still think this feels not real ? I woke up this morning for the first time in a while not thinking about it, momentarily thought it was all a dream

    I think we all go through that at times. This morning I was half asleep and decided this is actually the plot of a time travel movie and right now a team is going back 8 months in time to convince the Chinese government to shut down the wet market immediately and prevent the virus from mutating. It will be hard to convince them and maybe the team will just burn the market to the ground. But once they do the timeline will reset and none of us will ever remember this happening.


  • #8681
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    rusty cole wrote: »
    how long can it lie dormant, up to 14 days before symptoms I hear, is that accurate?

    yeah that is the official stance, however if the guys can wfh they should do so anyway until further notice, i suspect we will be going into a full lockdown quite soon anyway and rightfully so, we need to get on with it and grind it out, until the virus dies out and good anti virals appear


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  • #8682
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    All that fandango wrote: »
    I have one question that I've been wondering since the outbreak of this virus....with swine flu in 2009, why didn't the schools/businesses shut down back then? IIRC swine flu was just as big a deal and serious news for a few months (or at least thats the impression I was given from watching the news at the time).
    It wasn't nearly as potentially deadly as this dose. As it turned out it had about the same fatality rate as "normal" flu, so 0.1%. This dose is anywhere between 0.7 to 4%, maybe higher in some areas. So maybe ten times more deadly.

    Most of all it has a much higher percentage of those who need hospital treatment, even if most of those survive. This means it can overwhelm medical services which in turn leads to more people dying that would otherwise have lived. It also impacts those with chronic illnesses that need hospital treatment, because they're now competing with Covid 19 patients and could die because of that. Never mind if they've a chronic illness and catch this virus. If they do that ramps up the potential fatalities too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #8683
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    Ibuprofen is an anti inflammatory not an antiviral.


  • #8684
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    deathbomber wrote: »
    yeah that is the official stance, however if the guys can wfh they should do so anyway until further notice, i suspect we will be going into a full lockdown quite soon anyway and rightfully so, we need to get on with it and grind it out, until the virus dies out and good anti virals appear

    sound thanks


  • #8685
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Very hard to keep up with the thread, so I don't know if this has been posted already

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200317_48/

    Well that's some good news


  • #8686
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    Are you talking about anti virals or anti inflammatories?


  • #8687
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    thought it was anti inflammatory which were a pssoible (unofficial)issue?


  • #8688
    Abba987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Abba987


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?

    Yes


  • #8689
    ErnestBorgnine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭ErnestBorgnine


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    French advise was about anti-inflammatory drugs


  • #8690
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    gabeeg wrote: »
    You really should be getting tested for your own peace of mind.

    I think you'll probably be able to soon enough too if you request it.

    I`m in a similar situation to that poster. Showing symptons since last Thursday. Contacted my GP on Monday morning and am now in self isolation and am waiting to be tested.


  • #8691
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    eh... 506096.gif No. No it is not. Jesus. How in god's name did you come to that conclusion that Ibuprofen is an antiviral???

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #8692
    Level 5 Vegan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Level 5 Vegan


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    Better than they're getting on boards.ie anyway based on the pharmacology expertise I've read on this thread.


  • #8693
    lucalux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Good news moment:


    Drive-in movie theatre at Leopardstown!
    I know it's been mentioned a few times on this thread already

    They just had a feature on RTE Radio 1.

    Book online, no contact with anyone outside your own car. Tune in your radio for audio!

    Shows at 12, 3, 6 and 9pm.

    Seems like a great initiative for the times, fair play to them

    https://www.retrodrivein.ie/


  • #8694
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Is anyone surprised by this?

    The Mirror using Twitter posts as sources? Not at all surprised!


  • #8695
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Had to deactivate my FB this morning after seeing a whingy post from a woman who thinks the government should be giving a "corona bonus" to those on social welfare so they can keep their kids entertained at home in these troubling times. She says its not fair to keep the kids cooped up with nothing to do and the money would help with toys and games for them.

    Mass lay offs, businesses going under, the country on its knees and the looming threat of a killer virus and this wagon is moaning about needing a corona bonus. I despair.


  • #8696
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    An upside of this virus is that you'll have 1 or 2 "truthers" pop up on your Facebook feed and you can then mute them and disregard anything they ever say again to you in person. Small wins.


  • #8697
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Well that's some good news
    It is that SS, but from reading more on it it seems to be dependent on when the drug is administered. In very serious later stage cases with people on ventilators it showed much less of an effect if any. It seems to be a great breakthrough when administered in the early stages. Hopefully production is ramping up, because if we can head off even half of the cases that need hospitalisation with this treatment we'll "flatten the curve" in no time.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #8698
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Had to deactivate my FB this morning after seeing a whingy post from a woman who thinks the government should be giving a "corona bonus" to those on social welfare so they can keep their kids entertained at home in these troubling times. She says its not fair to keep the kids cooped up with nothing to do and the money would help with toys and games for them.

    Mass lay offs, businesses going under, the country on its knees and the looming threat of a killer virus and this wagon is moaning about needing a corona bonus. I despair.


    Wait until her welfare is cut 20% next year


  • #8699
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    ciara kelly on newtalk has just announced she's tested positive on-air


  • #8700
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Blown out of proportion, premier league matches hold more than a daily Cheltenham attendance and thousands of Irish travel to these games each week. Not surprised though

    The coming weeks will tell if its been blown out of proportion i suppose.

    I am aware of one confirmed case who returned from cheltenham, tested friday so maybe incubating before they left?

    3-4 more from same travel party with similar symptoms awaiting tests this week.

    Small sample but possibly quite telling.

    I cannot back this up with a source, but it's not fake news..


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  • #8701
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    https://twitter.com/NewstalkFM/status/1240248151673581568


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