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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8672
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    amadangomor wrote: »
    I'm classified as a potential case by my doctor.

    Some symptoms for two weeks but today quite breathless and sore chest. Could be unrelated chest infection or could be Covid.

    Good news is that if it is Covid I am probably not shedding the virus as it has been two weeks. Been told to self isolate for another week as a precaution.

    You really should be getting tested for your own peace of mind.

    I think you'll probably be able to soon enough too if you request it.


  • #8673
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Any news on an anti viral drug ?

    Seems to be the only hope of getting this under control in the near future


  • #8674
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    amadangomor wrote: »
    As in I can't spread it now!

    Who told you this?

    Edit: I misread your comment so nvm. Hope you start feeling better soon :)


  • #8675
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    gabeeg wrote: »
    You really should be getting tested for your own peace of mind.

    I think you'll probably be able to soon enough too if you request it.

    He said they need to prioritise other cases.

    I presume ones that are in earlier stages so shedding or people with more severe symptoms.

    Would be good for me to know alright because I would know if I have some immunity to it now or not.


  • #8676
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    They're working tremendously hard on it

    Apparently


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  • #8677
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    Who told you this?

    The doctor!! Two of them actually!! Look up some reputable sources yourself. The week of self isolation is a precaution.


  • #8678
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Any news on an anti viral drug ?

    Seems to be the only hope of getting this under control in the near future

    Numerous approaches are being tried. In other possible good news:

    https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/monkeys-develop-protective-antibodies-to-sars-cov-2-67281
    Now, a study in monkeys provides some clues. Three rhesus macaques did not develop a second infection after recovering from a first exposure to the coronavirus and being reexposed to SARS-CoV-2, suggesting that primates are capable of developing at least some short-term immunity to the pathogen. The research, posted as a preprint to bioRxiv March 14, has yet to undergo peer review. To the authors, the results indicate that reports of some COVID-19 survivors being “re-infected” a second time can be explained by issues with testing rather than a failure to develop immunity.


  • #8679
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    amadangomor wrote: »
    The doctor!! Two of them actually!! Look up some reputable sources yourself. The week of self isolation is a precaution.

    Recheck my comment, I misread yours, sorry!


  • #8680
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1239944663752212481


  • #8681
    All that fandango
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭All that fandango


    I have one question that I've been wondering since the outbreak of this virus....with swine flu in 2009, why didn't the schools/businesses shut down back then? IIRC swine flu was just as big a deal and serious news for a few months (or at least thats the impression I was given from watching the news at the time).


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  • #8682
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Very hard to keep up with the thread, so I don't know if this has been posted already

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200317_48/


  • #8683
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?


  • #8684
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    Positive
    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/17/china-reports-new-progress-in-drug-therapies-against-covid-19


  • #8685
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Coronavirus: Cheltenham Festival punters claim to be showing symptoms
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/sport/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-punters-claim-showing-21710531.amp

    Is anyone surprised by this?


  • #8686
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?

    You should really disinfect the office as the virus can remain on surfaces for quite a few days and maybe even 28 days, also are colleagues infected but do not know it yet. I would say work from home if possible


  • #8687
    questionmark?
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    rusty cole wrote: »
    if someone tested positive in a small office a week ago, should the management tell the other people in that office?

    Yes. Staff in close contact should be sent home and if WFH is possible this should be the instruction. A deep clean of the office should also take place.


  • #8688
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Is anyone surprised by this?

    Blown out of proportion, premier league matches hold more than a daily Cheltenham attendance and thousands of Irish travel to these games each week. Not surprised though


  • #8689
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    deathbomber wrote: »
    You should really disinfect the office as the virus can remain on surfaces for quite a few days and maybe even 28 days, also are colleagues infected but do not know it yet. I would say work from home if possible


    how long can it lie dormant, up to 14 days before symptoms I hear, is that accurate?


  • #8690
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Positive
    https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/17/china-reports-new-progress-in-drug-therapies-against-covid-19

    Whenever i see the word positive i assume someone has tested positive, so i was pleasantly surprised when i clicked the link!


  • #8691
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Longing wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1239944663752212481

    Out of all the places in which you believe anything written, nevermind anything written about the EU, Spiked, and the peasant stock staff, is not one you'd even wipe your ass with

    Nobody click through to that link.


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  • #8692
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    amadangomor wrote: »
    He said they need to prioritise other cases.

    I presume ones that are in earlier stages so shedding or people with more severe symptoms.

    Would be good for me to know alright because I would know if I have some immunity to it now or not.

    Yeah exactly - you could comfortably visit your folks, do their shopping or whatever

    I think we're moving towards "anyone who wants to be tested can be tested". Not sure if standard testing will pick up past cases though.
    Having seen Contagion, they may have to peel the skin from your forehead and open your skull with a bone-saw. But sure it's better to know.

    Hope you're feeling 100% soon anyways


  • #8693
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,591 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals


  • #8694
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Anyone else still think this feels not real ? I woke up this morning for the first time in a while not thinking about it, momentarily thought it was all a dream

    I think we all go through that at times. This morning I was half asleep and decided this is actually the plot of a time travel movie and right now a team is going back 8 months in time to convince the Chinese government to shut down the wet market immediately and prevent the virus from mutating. It will be hard to convince them and maybe the team will just burn the market to the ground. But once they do the timeline will reset and none of us will ever remember this happening.


  • #8695
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    rusty cole wrote: »
    how long can it lie dormant, up to 14 days before symptoms I hear, is that accurate?

    yeah that is the official stance, however if the guys can wfh they should do so anyway until further notice, i suspect we will be going into a full lockdown quite soon anyway and rightfully so, we need to get on with it and grind it out, until the virus dies out and good anti virals appear


  • #8696
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    All that fandango wrote: »
    I have one question that I've been wondering since the outbreak of this virus....with swine flu in 2009, why didn't the schools/businesses shut down back then? IIRC swine flu was just as big a deal and serious news for a few months (or at least thats the impression I was given from watching the news at the time).
    It wasn't nearly as potentially deadly as this dose. As it turned out it had about the same fatality rate as "normal" flu, so 0.1%. This dose is anywhere between 0.7 to 4%, maybe higher in some areas. So maybe ten times more deadly.

    Most of all it has a much higher percentage of those who need hospital treatment, even if most of those survive. This means it can overwhelm medical services which in turn leads to more people dying that would otherwise have lived. It also impacts those with chronic illnesses that need hospital treatment, because they're now competing with Covid 19 patients and could die because of that. Never mind if they've a chronic illness and catch this virus. If they do that ramps up the potential fatalities too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #8697
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    Ibuprofen is an anti inflammatory not an antiviral.


  • #8698
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    deathbomber wrote: »
    yeah that is the official stance, however if the guys can wfh they should do so anyway until further notice, i suspect we will be going into a full lockdown quite soon anyway and rightfully so, we need to get on with it and grind it out, until the virus dies out and good anti virals appear

    sound thanks


  • #8699
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Very hard to keep up with the thread, so I don't know if this has been posted already

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200317_48/

    Well that's some good news


  • #8700
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    Are you talking about anti virals or anti inflammatories?


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  • #8701
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    That GAA guy said he was on antiviral drugs, but wasn't there advise from China and France that antivirals "dampen" the body's immune response and make it so much worse.I'm talking of Ibuprofen, so on, which is an antiviral.
    You have to worry what treatment people are getting in Irish hospitals

    thought it was anti inflammatory which were a pssoible (unofficial)issue?


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