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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8612
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Bumping, because we should shine a focus on the positives.

    Thank you.

    We need as much positive news as possible, in a time when many elderly are at home by themselves, we need to help build resolve and show there is something to fight for.

    99% of those points were discussed on the Pat Kenny show by professor Luke O'Neill Immunologist from Trinity College Dublin so its not fabricated.


  • #8613
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I never asked for more carers! I am asking they get adequate personal protective clothing given that they cannot, by the nature of their work, practice social distancing! Try reading the posts. And I AM his carer. This isolation that's been happening for a few days for people, that's been my life for 3.5 years.

    Sorry, I misread what you said. I’m in the exact same boat as you.

    Get some sheets, fold in two and cut a hole in the head for them. Get carers to wear them then wash at 90 after each use.
    Have hand wash in bathroom for them to wash when they arrive. Have front door open so they don’t touch handles (wash it down each time regardless.
    Go on to amazon and order conti dry wipes (or equivalent). PLEASE EVERYONE ELSE DONT BUY THESE UP! Buy the smaller ones for making disposable face masks. There’s a few videos going around of how to do this with wet wipes

    I do know that the HSE and agencies are taking on as many staff as possible so that they can try and have the same carers going to the same houses. At least to limit contagion. I know over the years that I’ve been told to do the course and I’ve said “hell no” I wanted my life back. But now, if I lose my folks, I’ll be volunteering.

    If you want to have a chat or a rant then PM me. I’ll be your ear xxx


  • #8614
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Well on the upside the college assignments I was worried about getting in on time i am now way ahead of.


  • #8615
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    Thank you.

    We need as much positive news as possible, in a time when many elderly are at home by themselves, we need to help build resolve and show there is something to fight for.

    99% of those points were discussed on the Pat Kenny show by professor Luke O'Neill Immunologist from Trinity College Dublin so its not fabricated.

    Was that recently?


  • #8616
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    Based on what?

    COVID-19 has an estimated R0 of 1.4 - 3.9 (?3.4% mortality?)

    Ebola has an R0 of 1.5 - 2.5. (25% - 90% mortality)

    Obviously, the larger gap for COVID is because we don't know as much about it, but there is a large overlap here.

    Well, based on the fact that Ebola hasn’t spread around the world despite the largest outbreak travelling out of Africa to western countries. In the western countries it travelled to, it didn’t gain a foothold.


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  • #8617
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    The mother, she works in Marks and spencer where told this morning before the store opened that they are not allowed to wear gloves and they will be allowed to go off the floor to wash their hands every half hour. No explanation has been given.
    Eh that's not really good enough.

    #walkout


  • #8618
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend some good podcasts on the topic - scientific ones? I know I could search myself but I’m trying to keep my anxiety levels down and don’t want to find things that will do nothing but panic me.

    I’ve found the recent Sam Harris podcasts level-headed and informative.


  • #8619
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    further on South Korea , and it's "transparent messaging":

    "Legislation enacted since then gave the government authority to collect mobile phone, credit card, and other data from those who test positive to reconstruct their recent whereabouts. That information, stripped of personal identifiers, is shared on social media apps that allow others to determine whether they may have crossed paths with an infected person."


    The movements of ALL Corona cases is being shared with the Korean population by the Korean government via social media apps.
    That's "transparent messaging" on steroids.


    Meanwhile in Ireland, we have cases in the "East".


  • #8620
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

    Anyone who trots out the trite, facile “Sure we all die sometimes” in relation to sick people needs to be shot with tightly-compacted balls of their own excrement. Dopes.

    I also think they should be sprayed with some runny ****e as well, just in case they still don't get the point .


  • #8621
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,073 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    What's the story with redundancy during this?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #8622
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,827 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Nobody sane want's to harm the economy, it's just that they value their mothers more than the government's ability to have a huge tax haul. Clearly you are different.

    The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.


  • #8623
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    If there is no virus in the country... it is impossible to get infected. They are quarantining everyone who enters the country for 14 days, so infection from abroad is not very likely.

    That remains to be seen.
    With regard to the Imperial College paper... I take any prediction of the future with a large grain of salt, particularly when almost no one else in the world seems to agree with the lunatic 'Herd Immunity" notion it spawned.

    This is incorrect. Have you read the report?

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

    The projection that changed Britain's coronavirus policy


  • #8624
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    And if he watered it down and took a softly softly approach, you would be on here in a few weeks time complaining that he didn't call it as it was and warn people. You are simply one of those type people that are never happy and will always find something to complain about.

    I have no love or even like for the man but he made a good speech in difficult circumstances.

    Couldn't agree more, there was as much good in his speech illustrating the measures taken so far are having a positive impact but that we absolutely could and will potentially need to do more.

    He iterated on numerous occasions that essential outlets such as supermarkets and supply chains will be prioritized and not to panic.

    There is a storm coming but thankfully we have the luxury of looking into the past to see how countries such as South Korea and China have weathered that storm and are now coming out the other end of it.


  • #8625
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,023 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Nermal wrote: »
    Losing 0.6% of the population is preferable to 18 months of economic destruction waiting for a vaccine.

    Comparing the US losing 2M people to a war or a holocaust is nonsensical, 2.6M people die every year there in a normal year - do we say there's 'half a holocaust' happening each year?

    We are letting emotion rule our decision-making.
    Yes but would it not be 2.6m (normal year) plus another 2m (covid) that’s 4.6m.

    Also sometimes emotion and empathy are helpful. If you were in charge I’m sure you wouldn’t give a damn about the extra dead and probably wouldn’t waste resources on trying to save as many as possible.


  • #8626
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    INMO Trolley Watch figures for March 18th 2020

    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    Only 16 beds short today in Irish hospitals.

    Most of them in Kerry.

    I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

    They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

    There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.


  • #8627
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,694 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Tesco shelves still empty for the oap shop even got in at 7am before anyone else

    The issue is that there is no need for empty shelves.


  • #8628
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,023 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

    So would you put the economy before saving life’s?


  • #8629
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

    When someone is making illogical points, it deserves to be called out, whether that gets thanks or not is another thing.

    (Hopefully get a few thanks for this though :) ).


  • #8630
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    For people complaining about Leo Varadker's speech:

    Perhaps you weren't the target audience? I know I wasn't. I was sat there listening, thinking to myself, "Yeah, I know all of this, what's your point? Why am I wasting my time here?"
    That's me and probably countless others.

    But, we must realise that certain people out there just don't get it or fully grasp it yet and it was aimed at those. People are saying, "He's after scaring loads of people"
    Well yes, that is who the speech was targetted at. Those who needed to be informed about the magnitude of the situation, those who put it to the back of their minds.

    Me and you might have a well informed, balanced view on it but, others don't.

    Do not get me wrong, it hasn't changed my opinion of him, his policies or his political, health and enconomic decisions in the past but, fair is fair, he didn't say or do anything wrong last night


  • #8631
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    What's the story with redundancy during this?


    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/?fbclid=IwAR3EfiL2hRnvCUKwW1hEilETLfjvdojNZsRdekg-kESCHQsCQiSHrlpIw4Y
    This new social welfare payment is available to employees and self-employed people who are unemployed or who have their hours of work reduced during the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) pandemic. This includes people who have been put on part-time or casual work.

    There is no restriction on people aged between 18 and 66 years applying for the payment provided they have been in employment up to now and it has ceased.

    The payment has a simple one–page application form and will be paid for a period of 6 weeks at a flat rate payment of €203 per week for jobseekers. It is designed to quickly deliver a social welfare payment to the unemployed and provide income security during this 6-week period.

    Individuals applying for the payment will be required to apply for the normal jobseeker’s payments within this 6-week period. Once this normal jobseeker claim is subsequently received, the department will process these claims and accommodate payments at that time. This will involve backdating increased payments for certain customers.


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  • #8632
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    It will also effect suppliers etc.


  • #8633
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I also think they should be sprayed with some runny ****e as well, just in case they still don't get the point .

    Like Father Ted and the slurry.


  • #8634
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Like Father Ted and the slurry.

    The very thing!


  • #8635
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

    They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

    There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.

    How much of it is the cancellation of minor surgeries freeing up ward space?


  • #8636
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I wish people would kindly feck off mentioning ‘lockdown’. Most of them can’t even define what it means when you ask them to. Utter gobschites.

    There is nothing wrong with facing up to reality. You can't wish the virus away.

    China, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea have shown that it is possible to defeat the virus.

    Irish teacher Ben Kavanagh’s journey - from quarantine in Wuhan to the Wirral.





    A Chinese student in London went home and became part of the Wohan lockdown.




  • #8637
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    jamesf85 wrote: »
    How many people are unemployed now?

    How does this look for the world economy if it continues for 2-3 months?

    Will the EU have funds to bail countries like Ireland out? If so how? If not why?

    All countries on the planet including those in the EU will be seriously affected by this crisis. I think there will have to be a complete reset of the global financial system. What that will be I don`t know.


  • #8638
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    Leo Varadakar really needs to take a step back and think about what he is saying on national TV, the calm before the storm is he for fcuking real as if many people aren't already panicking and anxiety through the roof that was the single worst thing he could have possibly said live on TV and i see he's getting serious stick for it too, between him and that other parasatic bas**rd Michael Martin who only the other day suggested that a government should be formed ASAP to tackle this crisis, so hungry for power even with something as serious as this will do anything to get in.

    People were drinking away in packed pubs the last few days before the shutdown. Kildare village was thronged with shoppers on Monday. The people that understand what is happening here were not panicked any more by what Leo said last night. They have the awareness to follow what is being requested of them. Yes everyone is concerned, but it is high time those that need to listen get panicked. What is it that makes you think we are any different to Italy or the UK...???

    Above all, they need to start showing respect for the most vunerable in society. This attitude of not giving a sh$t about anyone else needs to change. I thought Leo's speech was excellent, Simon Harris has been working himself in to the ground on this. Now the country is facing a real crisis, the current government has performed admirably.


  • #8639
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

    Not getting enough fake internet points?


  • #8640
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend some good podcasts on the topic - scientific ones? I know I could search myself but I’m trying to keep my anxiety levels down and don’t want to find things that will do nothing but panic me.

    This podcast will kill you. They did a good episode recently on it. They do a different disease every week and take it from a scientific standpoint.

    Also David mc Williams had an expert on his podcast who was very good. Joe rogan had an episode recently as well where he interviewed an expert. The expert was good but Joe Rogan is not.


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  • #8641
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross


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