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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8552
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Lets see how we run a Health Service when the tax-receipts dry up. It's costing €20bn a year for a sh;te one at the moment so let's see what we get for €10bn a year for the next decade.

    How many lives will that cost?

    Presumably the 'fcuk the economy' brigade will have gone to ground by then.

    Let's see how we run a Health Service when society has crumbled if we go with the Herd Immunity bolloxollogy.


  • #8553
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Back to work tonight myself...

    Company have implemented measures of social distancing...takes an hour for everyone to get into the factory...but while people are waiting to get in, they are huddled together outside:(

    Madness, reminds me of the 1st few days the schools were off and the kids congregated in groups outside!

    Then we hand the pubs packed out.

    Hopefully the message is slowly getting through?


  • #8554
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,002 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    How accurate is this ?
    Have you got a source ?
    Very accurate. But based on statistics from countries who are further along in the trajectory of the virus.
    I was pondering whether to post it as it freaked me out too, but people need to be aware of this stuff. If it stops even one group of people having a house party, or going out in groups, I think it was worthwhile for me to do it.

    https://go.skimresources.com/?id=61111X1383796&isjs=1&jv=14.0.0-alpha.1-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2058061981%26page%3D211&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.imperial.ac.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimperial-college%2Fmedicine%2Fsph%2Fide%2Fgida-fellowships%2FImperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf&xguid=&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=4d63f53043dfe72721337bb4441eff91


  • #8555
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    They were as helpful as they could be as a matter of fact. The person went off looking for the info. She just called me back with another number to call (health and safety ) but guess what? That doesn't work! Invalid number tone when I ring.

    Isn't the advice for symptomatic people to call the gp?

    Give family carers Ireland a call.

    https://familycarers.ie/

    Try not to stress, sardonicat xxx


  • #8556
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,458 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    Is a basin of dettol mixed with water of any use in the hallway when housemates arrive home to plunge their hands into? Or would it have to be changed everyday I have just one bottle of dettol was thinking to leave it there for a week at a time then refill it

    Immediate handwashing should suffice. Maybe use kitchen towel to dry hands and swab door handles with disinfectant .


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  • #8557
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Interesting article here about the “lifting” of lockdown in China

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/china-life-returning-normal-coronavirus-outbreak-slows-200317084803189.html

    Note that the restrictions are being lifted in a staggered fashion and the populace are still being required to follow social distancing rules (for example, there is a bit about restaurants that have reopened having to restrict the number of patrons so that there is sufficient spacing). Also interesting that there is still concern of a second wave if/when they totally lift restrictions.

    IMO, this suggest that, while we may not be in a lockdown scenario for several months, it could be a long time before we’re back to normality


  • #8558
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Just wash your hands with bloody soap and water!

    Caught lodger twice now coming straight in the front door from work without washing his hands in the understairs sink and promplty opening the fridge grabbing handle to grab a can, pllonks himself down on couch and grabs remote control:mad: thats after me telling him I sterilised whole house


  • #8559
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,458 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Give family carers Ireland a call.

    https://familycarers.ie/

    Try not to stress, sardonicat xxx

    I'm not stressed. I'm angry!


  • #8560
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Window dressing will be a feature in all this

    Self motivated and profit motivated people will want to appear to be taking measures

    Agreed...just so they look proactive...but will have very little likelihood of reducing the spread


  • #8561
    tunney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,585 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Just wash your hands with bloody soap and water!

    Not that hygienic?


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  • #8562
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    What do you think is likely to happen when they 'return to normal'?

    Source

    I sincerely hope this is the case and manufacturing will be able to keep up with demand.

    That report suggests an ON/OFF trigger for suppression techniques over a 2 year period. I highly suggest reading it.

    If there is no virus in the country... it is impossible to get infected. They are quarantining everyone who enters the country for 14 days, so infection from abroad is not very likely.

    With regard to the Imperial College paper... I take any prediction of the future with a large grain of salt, particularly when almost no one else in the world seems to agree with the lunatic 'Herd Immunity" notion it spawned.

    "prediction is a very accurate science... just as long as it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the future"


  • #8563
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    donaghs wrote: »
    Key workers dying? 1 in 5 chance of being hospitalized? what are you on about?

    Most people seem to experience a mild flu. For some the symptoms are so mild they never even realised they had it.
    Sure, protect the elderly and vulnerable, but lets not panic and lie to ourselves about how dangerous this is the general public.

    Numerous medics are now in ICU in Italy.


  • #8564
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    begbysback wrote: »
    Doesn’t make sense at all, the typical shopper in that shop would be considered people at risk, wearing gloves is a precaution against passing from one person to another.

    It's actually probably better if they go and wash their hands every 30 mins, because they might be a false sense of safety with the gloves.

    They would need to change their gloves literally every min in order to stop them passing from one person to another.


  • #8565
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Italy has bought nearly 5000 new ventilators
    http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/topnews/2020/03/17/arcuriallitalia-tutto-quello-che-serve_8cb6e0a1-81aa-46ab-999e-ae06961c8e2e.html


  • #8566
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    solidasarock wrote: »
    The one thing that will come out of this is we are going to be taking this stuff super seriously going forward.

    ...........for at least a few years. Politics gonna politic

    there is talk in the States about cancelling all American debt held by the Chinese, as punishment. I do get a sense of rising anger about this Stateside with the Chinese and their "wet markets" and coverups.


  • #8567
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://waterford-news.ie/2020/03/18/on-the-frontline/


  • #8568
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,766 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Lets see how we run a Health Service when the tax-receipts dry up. It's costing €20bn a year for a sh;te one at the moment so let's see what we get for €10bn a year for the next decade.

    How many lives will that cost?

    Presumably the 'fcuk the economy' brigade will have gone to ground by then.

    Nobody sane want's to harm the economy, it's just that they value their mothers more than the government's ability to have a huge tax haul. Clearly you are different.


  • #8569
    sReq | uTeK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭sReq | uTeK


    Some positive news....

    -China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.

    - Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.

    - Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.

    - A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China.

    - Apple reopens all 42 china stores,

    - Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.

    - Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.

    - Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.

    - Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.

    - 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.

    - A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.

    - A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.

    -So it's not all bad news.


  • #8570
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,246 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    The mother, she works in Marks and spencer where told this morning before the store opened that they are not allowed to wear gloves and they will be allowed to go off the floor to wash their hands every half hour. No explanation has been given.
    I think that's actually ok. I mean wearing gloves is good if you are somewhere where you can't wash your hands regularly. I have taken to slipping on latex gloves while shopping before binning them after I put the trolley back.

    I would prefer if I could just wash my hands afterwards before touching my steering wheel again but that's not practical for customers.

    The gloves don't stop you getting the virus if you touch your face anyway. I see limited use for them if a person has hand washing facilities.


  • #8571
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Numerous medics are now in ICU in Italy.

    I have tried to search for news reports on this but can’t find any.


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  • #8572
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    Caught lodger twice now coming straight in the front door from work without washing his hands in the understairs sink and promplty opening the fridge grabbing handle to grab a can, pllonks himself down on couch and grabs remote control:mad: thats after me telling him I sterilised whole house

    Have you tried cellophane wrap with butter and dettol at head/face height ? Will get the point across.


  • #8573
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I'm just sayin...where are our songs?

    Get your act together Bono :pac:

    Well I'm blaming you for broaching this topic.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/18/bono-coronavirus-song-italy-let-your-love-be-known
    U2 frontman Bono has performed his first new music since 2017 with a song inspired by Italians quarantined during the coronavirus outbreak.

    He posted the new song, Let Your Love Be Known, to his Instagram account with the caption: “For the Italians who inspired it… for the Irish… for ANYONE who this St Patrick’s Day is in a tight spot and still singing. For the doctors, nurses, carers on the front line, it’s you we’re singing to.


  • #8574
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    Some positive news....

    -China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.

    - Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.

    - Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.

    - A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China.

    - Apple reopens all 42 china stores,

    - Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.

    - Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.

    - Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.

    - Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.

    - 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.

    - A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.

    - A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.

    -So it's not all bad news.

    Have you got a few sources handy? Thanks in advance.


  • #8575
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    A virus with such a high death rate wouldn't spread fast

    Based on what?

    COVID-19 has an estimated R0 of 1.4 - 3.9 (?3.4% mortality?)

    Ebola has an R0 of 1.5 - 2.5. (25% - 90% mortality)

    Obviously, the larger gap for COVID is because we don't know as much about it, but there is a large overlap here.


  • #8576
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Anyone else still think this feels not real ? I woke up this morning for the first time in a while not thinking about it, momentarily thought it was all a dream


  • #8577
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's actually probably better if they go and wash their hands every 30 mins, because they might be a false sense of safety with the gloves.

    They would need to change their gloves literally every min in order to stop them passing from one person to another.

    We were talking about this the other day. Had to drive OH to his workplace (he is WFH) to collect something. He insisted on wearing his gloves in to pick it up. then got back in the car with his gloves on :confused: I told him it would make more sense to go in without gloves and use the sanitiser that is specifically in my car for that very reason when he gets back in. What is he going to do with a pair of leather gloves that could now have Covid germs on them - rub some sanitiser on them? :P


  • #8578
    kmart6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,173 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    sReq | uTeK wrote: »
    Some positive news....

    -China has closed down its last coronavirus hospital. Not enough new cases to support them.

    - Doctors in India have been successful in treating Coronavirus. Combination of drugs used: Lopinavir, Retonovir, Oseltamivir along with Chlorphenamine. They are going to suggest same medicine, globally.

    - Researchers of the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody against coronavirus.

    - A 103-year-old Chinese grandmother has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for 6 days in Wuhan, China.

    - Apple reopens all 42 china stores,

    - Cleveland Clinic developed a COVID-19 test that gives results in hours, not days.

    - Good news from South Korea, where the number of new cases is declining.

    - Italy is hit hard, experts say, only because they have the oldest population in Europe.

    - Scientists in Israel likely to announce the development of a coronavirus vaccine.

    - 3 Maryland coronavirus patients fully recovered; able to return to everyday life.

    - A network of Canadian scientists are making excellent progress in Covid-19 research.

    - A San Diego biotech company is developing a Covid-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.

    -So it's not all bad news.
    Sources for these since it has been doing the rounds on social channels since yesterday?


  • #8579
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Am I the only one that has this weird sense Im in some sort of weird dream sequence or alternate universe. I keep looking out the window to get a grasp on things but keep finding myself feeling in a weird state of "is this real":confused:


  • #8580
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    holyhead wrote: »
    Leo possibly should have announced he is not going to take his wages until this passes or at least show some solidarity with those who have been laid off

    Ah here.


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  • #8581
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Anyone else still think this feels not real ? I woke up this morning for the first time in a while not thinking about it, momentarily thought it was all a dream

    I just posted the same thing!


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