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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8552
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I'm just sayin...where are our songs?

    Get your act together Bono :pac:

    What about the people of Holland? That's where U2 do their taxes.


  • #8553
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It doesn't make sense to put people like you under unnecessary pressure during these trying times.

    As I said earlier, it makes sense to temporarily suspend testing now, as we all wait for the inevitable surge of this virus. The virus is spread mainly by contact; are NCT employees changing gloves after each inspection? Are they sanitising their testing gear after each inspection?
    And it is bewildering that Covid-19 is not even mentioned during the booking process. Very odd. It gives the impression that the NCT focus is financial.

    The only relevant reference on the NCT site says that it is continuing as normal with precautions being taken in the centres.

    Surely it has to stop - what if a person dropping their car in sneezes all over the dash before getting there, or a tester does the same thing before they hand it back? The drive in virus test centre in Croker is staffed by people in full hazard gear, can't see the NCT testers operating like that.

    I wouldn't be rushing to get an NCT done now, if it was due and if I was a tester I don't think I would continue working either.


  • #8554
    ironingbored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Lot of people asking why we haven't had a complete lockdown in Ireland.

    Only analogy I can think of is an NFL game. You've got a playbook (WHO) and you don't use all your plays in the 1st Quarter.

    This is a 4 Quarter game.

    Other countries are already throwing hail marys.


  • #8555
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Is a basin of dettol mixed with water of any use in the hallway when housemates arrive home to plunge their hands into? Or would it have to be changed everyday I have just one bottle of dettol was thinking to leave it there for a week at a time then refill it


  • #8556
    solidasarock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭solidasarock


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    What happens when the next virus comes out of China with a 50% mortality rate !
    after this nightmare is over the world needs a serious conversation about this eating wild animals crack !

    The one thing that will come out of this is we are going to be taking this stuff super seriously going forward.

    ...........for at least a few years. Politics gonna politic


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  • #8557
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Main areas of the UK coronavirus bill ( due to be tabled and passed tommorow):

    The bill enables action in 5 key areas:

    increasing the available health and social care workforce – for example, by removing barriers to allow recently retired NHS staff and social workers to return to work (and in Scotland, in addition to retired people, allowing those who are on a career break or are social worker students to become temporary social workers)

    easing the burden on frontline staff – by reducing the number of administrative tasks they have to perform, enabling local authorities to prioritise care for people with the most pressing needs, allowing key workers to perform more tasks remotely and with less paperwork, and taking the power to suspend individual port operations

    containing and slowing the virus – by reducing unnecessary social contacts, for example through powers over events and gatherings, and strengthening the quarantine powers of police and immigration officers

    managing the deceased with respect and dignity – by enabling the death management system to deal with increased demand for its services

    supporting people – by allowing them to claim Statutory Sick Pay from day one, and by supporting the food industry to maintain supplies


  • #8558
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,825 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Lets see how we run a Health Service when the tax-receipts dry up. It's costing €20bn a year for a sh;te one at the moment so let's see what we get for €10bn a year for the next decade.

    How many lives will that cost?

    Presumably the 'fcuk the economy' brigade will have gone to ground by then.


  • #8559
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    What happens when the next virus comes out of China with a 50% mortality rate !
    after this nightmare is over the world needs a serious conversation about this eating wild animals crack !

    A virus with such a high death rate wouldn't spread fast


  • #8560
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    There are not enough carers to have the same 2 people going solely to you father. I really don’t know what you think the hse helpline is going to do for you.

    If you’re worried then I’m afraid that you’re gonna have to take on the role yourself. Sorry to be blunt.

    I never asked for more carers! I am asking they get adequate personal protective clothing given that they cannot, by the nature of their work, practice social distancing! Try reading the posts. And I AM his carer. This isolation that's been happening for a few days for people, that's been my life for 3.5 years.


  • #8561
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    The mother, she works in Marks and spencer where told this morning before the store opened that they are not allowed to wear gloves and they will be allowed to go off the floor to wash their hands every half hour. No explanation has been given.

    Doesn’t make sense at all, the typical shopper in that shop would be considered people at risk, wearing gloves is a precaution against passing from one person to another.


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  • #8562
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    Is a basin of dettol mixed with water of any use in the hallway when housemates arrive home to plunge their hands into? Or would it have to be changed everyday I have just one bottle of dettol was thinking to leave it there for a week at a time then refill it

    Just wash your hands with bloody soap and water!


  • #8563
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Back to work tonight myself...

    Company have implemented measures of social distancing...takes an hour for everyone to get into the factory...but while people are waiting to get in, they are huddled together outside:(

    But we need to wear ear protection on the floor, so very hard to hear, so people are within a few CM's while talking/communicating on the floor...

    I'm currently isolating myself* from the outside world as it is as a precaution, so my only interactions are going to be work and the shops(once a week)

    *Not isolating due to contact/symptoms but just to reduce my social contact

    Window dressing will be a feature in all this

    Self motivated and profit motivated people will want to appear to be taking measures


  • #8564
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Mild may not be as mild as you think, here’s a HSE Doctor on the AMA forum right now explain “mild”

    Mild: Doesn’t need hospitalisation. You may feel really sick, you may need home nebulisers, you may be on antibiotics. Doesn’t matter, if you don’t need hospital then you’re mild. Generally when people say they’re severely ill at home we don’t contradict them (since they certainly feel very ill) but in our minds you’re all mildly ill with varying levels of whining ;-). Doctors and nurses’ families will tell you how little sympathy they get from us when they tell us they’re sick. We’re the epitome of “If you aren’t hospitalised then you’re fine” even in general life most of the time

    So “mild” is anything that doesn’t end up in hospital, not necessarily a walk in the park....

    To be fair he also describes whinging and no sympathy.

    The entitled generation (myself included no doubt) are too quick to seek medical care for illnesses that don't require it. This, hopefully, will be similar for almost everyone, with the notable exception that they'll stay home.

    One thing's for sure it will open a massive discussion about our healthcare capacity and A&E utilisation when all is said and done.


  • #8565
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    solidasarock wrote: »
    The one thing that will come out of this is we are going to be taking this stuff super seriously going forward.

    ...........for at least a few years. Politics gonna politic

    Exactly
    At first sign of a contagion, it'll be
    SHUT EVERY AIRPORT


  • #8566
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Lets see how we run a Health Service when the tax-receipts dry up. It's costing €20bn a year for a sh;te one at the moment so let's see what we get for €10bn a year for the next decade.

    How many lives will that cost?

    Presumably the 'fcuk the economy' brigade will have gone to ground by then.

    Let's see how we run a Health Service when society has crumbled if we go with the Herd Immunity bolloxollogy.


  • #8567
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Back to work tonight myself...

    Company have implemented measures of social distancing...takes an hour for everyone to get into the factory...but while people are waiting to get in, they are huddled together outside:(

    Madness, reminds me of the 1st few days the schools were off and the kids congregated in groups outside!

    Then we hand the pubs packed out.

    Hopefully the message is slowly getting through?


  • #8568
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    How accurate is this ?
    Have you got a source ?
    Very accurate. But based on statistics from countries who are further along in the trajectory of the virus.
    I was pondering whether to post it as it freaked me out too, but people need to be aware of this stuff. If it stops even one group of people having a house party, or going out in groups, I think it was worthwhile for me to do it.

    https://go.skimresources.com/?id=61111X1383796&isjs=1&jv=14.0.0-alpha.1-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2058061981%26page%3D211&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.imperial.ac.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimperial-college%2Fmedicine%2Fsph%2Fide%2Fgida-fellowships%2FImperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf&xguid=&xs=1&xtz=0&xuuid=4d63f53043dfe72721337bb4441eff91


  • #8569
    [Deleted User]
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    They were as helpful as they could be as a matter of fact. The person went off looking for the info. She just called me back with another number to call (health and safety ) but guess what? That doesn't work! Invalid number tone when I ring.

    Isn't the advice for symptomatic people to call the gp?

    Give family carers Ireland a call.

    https://familycarers.ie/

    Try not to stress, sardonicat xxx


  • #8570
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    Is a basin of dettol mixed with water of any use in the hallway when housemates arrive home to plunge their hands into? Or would it have to be changed everyday I have just one bottle of dettol was thinking to leave it there for a week at a time then refill it

    Immediate handwashing should suffice. Maybe use kitchen towel to dry hands and swab door handles with disinfectant .


  • #8571
    EDit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Interesting article here about the “lifting” of lockdown in China

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/china-life-returning-normal-coronavirus-outbreak-slows-200317084803189.html

    Note that the restrictions are being lifted in a staggered fashion and the populace are still being required to follow social distancing rules (for example, there is a bit about restaurants that have reopened having to restrict the number of patrons so that there is sufficient spacing). Also interesting that there is still concern of a second wave if/when they totally lift restrictions.

    IMO, this suggest that, while we may not be in a lockdown scenario for several months, it could be a long time before we’re back to normality


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  • #8572
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Just wash your hands with bloody soap and water!

    Caught lodger twice now coming straight in the front door from work without washing his hands in the understairs sink and promplty opening the fridge grabbing handle to grab a can, pllonks himself down on couch and grabs remote control:mad: thats after me telling him I sterilised whole house


  • #8573
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Give family carers Ireland a call.

    https://familycarers.ie/

    Try not to stress, sardonicat xxx

    I'm not stressed. I'm angry!


  • #8574
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Window dressing will be a feature in all this

    Self motivated and profit motivated people will want to appear to be taking measures

    Agreed...just so they look proactive...but will have very little likelihood of reducing the spread


  • #8575
    tunney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Just wash your hands with bloody soap and water!

    Not that hygienic?


  • #8576
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    What do you think is likely to happen when they 'return to normal'?

    Source

    I sincerely hope this is the case and manufacturing will be able to keep up with demand.

    That report suggests an ON/OFF trigger for suppression techniques over a 2 year period. I highly suggest reading it.

    If there is no virus in the country... it is impossible to get infected. They are quarantining everyone who enters the country for 14 days, so infection from abroad is not very likely.

    With regard to the Imperial College paper... I take any prediction of the future with a large grain of salt, particularly when almost no one else in the world seems to agree with the lunatic 'Herd Immunity" notion it spawned.

    "prediction is a very accurate science... just as long as it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the future"


  • #8577
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    donaghs wrote: »
    Key workers dying? 1 in 5 chance of being hospitalized? what are you on about?

    Most people seem to experience a mild flu. For some the symptoms are so mild they never even realised they had it.
    Sure, protect the elderly and vulnerable, but lets not panic and lie to ourselves about how dangerous this is the general public.

    Numerous medics are now in ICU in Italy.


  • #8578
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    begbysback wrote: »
    Doesn’t make sense at all, the typical shopper in that shop would be considered people at risk, wearing gloves is a precaution against passing from one person to another.

    It's actually probably better if they go and wash their hands every 30 mins, because they might be a false sense of safety with the gloves.

    They would need to change their gloves literally every min in order to stop them passing from one person to another.


  • #8579
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Italy has bought nearly 5000 new ventilators
    http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/topnews/2020/03/17/arcuriallitalia-tutto-quello-che-serve_8cb6e0a1-81aa-46ab-999e-ae06961c8e2e.html


  • #8580
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    solidasarock wrote: »
    The one thing that will come out of this is we are going to be taking this stuff super seriously going forward.

    ...........for at least a few years. Politics gonna politic

    there is talk in the States about cancelling all American debt held by the Chinese, as punishment. I do get a sense of rising anger about this Stateside with the Chinese and their "wet markets" and coverups.


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  • #8581
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://waterford-news.ie/2020/03/18/on-the-frontline/


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