CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

marilynrr · 18-03-2020 02:14AM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Nonsense!

You know the virus travels by air vapours, right?

So gloves and hand sanitizers only do so much.

The only trap he's falling into, is thinking/hoping that this thing will just blow over... You can hear him at the end of the video trying to reassure himself and viewers that "nothing will happen"... but then you can see him having a re-think about those words pretty much as they're coming out of his mouth. Because truthfully, like almost everybody else right now, he hasn't got a fcuking clue what's going to happen with this thing!

And neither do you either btw... you're just being arrogant and complacent, by telling people they are overreacting! You haven't a fcuking clue! So stop pretending you do!

You don't have a clue either. He sounds like he's taking the proper precautions. He is working so doesn't have the time to be reading all the apocalyptic posts getting all hyped up.
So many saying we're going to end up even worse than Italy, without anything to back it up. Maybe we won't be nearly as bad as Italy.

A lot of people are panicking, the best way to be is panicked to the point of following precautions, but hopeful, because if we're not hopeful that's going to cause a whole lot of other problems. Stress and anxiety weakens the immune system. People are having sleep problems due to their anxiety over this. That weakens the immune system.

And really at the end of the day if it's going to be just as bad as the worst case doomsday scenario that some people are painting on here then it's going to be absolutely horrific, then we're then going to fall into the worst recession we've ever seen, years of economic pain apparently and all of the misery that goes along with that. Let people at least have a bit of hope now while we can then before all of the misery takes over! As long as people are following precautions then they can't be criticised for trying to remain positive!

bekker · 18-03-2020 02:15AM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Actually YES... it is his fault technically!

It's not ONLY his fault - but he is leader of the country, and absolutely could have taken a position on it and ordered our citizens not to travel to a bloody horse racing festival while there was a dangerous virus going around.

We could have threatened them with fines for not complying with these orders. And we could have quarantined and tested them on return if they still went!

We could have done lots of things... but instead our government did nothing, and took no position at all on the issue! Which is lack of leadership!

Most people in the country could see it was a bad idea to go to that festival at this particular time. So why not take the lead as our government, and do something about those idiots?

Absolutely no fan of Leo or his ilk, but we are a nation of laws, moderated by our constitution. The most Leo or any Taoiseach could have done was spoken out and try to cajole those travelling. Maybe he did though I'm not aware of it if he did.

The only real 'on the fly' power available to him would be a Statuatory Instrument created by Ministerial Order as allowed under a devolved power from some Act. It was probably looked at by Justice or Health and found not to be feasible. Leo has not been found wanting in responding to the Twitterati where possible.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 18-03-2020 02:18AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

And youre telling people its worse than it is!
Its a total overreaction for th amount of cases and deaths.
its also not to be passed off as nothing to worry about.
Unlike the like of you,I can accept the dangers of the virus without getting horny for the doomsday scenario we are being fed.

Where did I tell anyone it's worse than it is?

Show me where I did this?

And I have no problem accepting the reality of this situation.

Mostly, we have honest people (many of whom are worried and right to be worried)

Then we have characters like you... people who are arrogant and keep telling everyone that they're overreacting! Even though you've no more fcuking experience of this situation than anyone else...

But somehow you think you're qualified to tell everyone that this thing is a big overreaction! You know next to nothing, but yet you act like you've been through this thing before, and it's being overblown!! You're a Bullsh!t artist... like so many others!

Maestro85 · 18-03-2020 02:22AM

Majorly long thread so this has probably been said ad infinatum but spare a thought for the healthcare workers. A friend of mine is a nurse, skyped her because she asked me to check in on her grandfather on my way home. She looks wrecked tired, says same about colleagues. Truly folks (and this aint virtue signalling) I hope we all remember when normalacy returns what our doctors, nurses, emergency services and healthcare workers endured.

Woodsie1 · 18-03-2020 02:23AM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Where did I tell anyone it's worse than it is?

Show me where I did this?

And I have no problem accepting the reality of this situation.

Mostly, we have honest people (many of whom are worried and right to be worried)

Then we have characters like you... people who are arrogant and keep telling everyone that they're overreacting! Even though you've no more fcuking experience of this situation than anyone else...

But somehow you think you're qualified to tell everyone that this thing is a big overreaction! You know next to nothing, but yet you act like you've been through this thing before, and it's being overblown!! You're a Bullsh!t artist... like so many others!

Thats wayyyy to angry a reply for me to bother.
Find a way to get rid of your excitement and the crisis we are facing.
Ill chill out and take all the precautions to keep me,my family and others safe.

Its actually pretty funny how a video of a trucker could trigger you so much,you hide away in isolation while the rest of us keep the country going;)

JP Liz V1 · 18-03-2020 02:26AM

Maestro85 wrote: »

Majorly long thread so this has probably been said ad infinatum but spare a thought for the healthcare workers. A friend of mine is a nurse, skyped her because she asked me to check in on her grandfather on my way home. She looks wrecked tired, says same about colleagues. Truly folks (and this aint virtue signalling) I hope we all remember when normalacy returns what our doctors, nurses, emergency services and healthcare workers endured.

Any pay rises they want should be given, tremendous job done by the frontline

BorneTobyWilde · 18-03-2020 02:27AM

https://twitter.com/PaulMcCartney/status/1239945508212420608

BorneTobyWilde · 18-03-2020 02:29AM

https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1239914650336137223

RobertKK · 18-03-2020 02:30AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_7qY0IEno

The best post in this thread :pac:

bekker · 18-03-2020 02:30AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Any pay rises they want should be given, tremendous job done by the frontline

Bonuses certainly, and compensation where appropriate. Sadly don't think we're going to be in a position to offer pay rises the other side of this event.

Raconteuse · 18-03-2020 02:31AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

And youre telling people its worse than it is!
Its a total overreaction for th amount of cases and deaths.
its also not to be passed off as nothing to worry about.
Unlike the like of you,I can accept the dangers of the virus without getting horny for the doomsday scenario we are being fed.

I know there are people who seem to be revelling in a "we're all doomed" narrative but it's not about the numbers right now, it's the inevitable increase. Most of these will be people with mild symptoms, but either way, the more cases, the more deaths. And there are still people being cavalier about it.

I doubt that it'll get like Italy here percentage wise but comparison to Spain worries me. The first confirmed case here was 18/19 days ago. When Spain was at the point in time which we are at now, the number of confirmed cases was even less than here today (troubling when you compare the two populations; although maybe there is more testing here) and look at the huge surge since.

Now it's still a different country which may not have had the same measures in place, but we are heading for a surge and need that dose of realism.

Those who can be in isolation should be.

joeguevara · 18-03-2020 02:32AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Thats wayyyy to angry a reply for me to bother.
Find a way to get rid of your excitement and the crisis we are facing.
Ill chill out and take all the precautions to keep me,my family and others safe.

Its actually pretty funny how a video of a trucker could trigger you so much,you hide away in isolation while the rest of us keep the country going;)

When you say‘keep this country going’ what do you mean. I think angry posts are not really called for so haven’t read what preceded this, but am interested in what people are doing from now on.

tuxy · 18-03-2020 02:32AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1239914650336137223

Is he trying to convince people that losing hearing in your right ear is a symptom?

Cool prank.

BorneTobyWilde · 18-03-2020 02:33AM

https://twitter.com/Kylemore/status/1239894611944001537

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 18-03-2020 02:36AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Thats wayyyy to angry a reply for me to bother.
Find a way to get rid of your excitement and the crisis we are facing.
Ill chill out and take all the precautions to keep me,my family and others safe.

Its actually pretty funny how a video of a trucker could trigger you so much,you hide away in isolation while the rest of us keep the country going;)

Exactly you're bullsh!tting...

I call you out on it, and you have nothing!

You can't point out one instance where I attempted to hype this situation or scare anybody.

Stop being arrogant, and admit you don't have a clue how this thing is going to play out... just like practically everyone else in the world right now!

You don't know what is an overreaction, and what is a reasonable reaction to this situation... because you've never been through it before. Like the rest of us!

I'm not triggered or overly excited. Your little trucker video is just some kid who is confused and doesn't know what is going on in the country right now. He's trying to wrap his head around it, but is struggling... that's all I got from your video, buddy! (Not that there's anything wrong with that btw)

And good on him getting out in his truck and doing his bit to keep the country on it's feet... I am also trying to do my bit and still putting in hours in my job.

Raconteuse · 18-03-2020 02:36AM

joeguevara wrote: »

When you say‘keep this country going’ what do you mean. I think angry posts are not really called for so haven’t read what preceded this, but am interested in what people are doing from now on.

Yeah I don't get that comment. Some have to go out and work in essential services (I do, and I really should be asleep but I can't sleep) but others can't help it if they don't work in essential services and are either working from home or out of work. And they absolutely should be self isolating.

joeguevara · 18-03-2020 02:40AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yeah I don't get that comment. Some have to go out and work in essential services (I do, and I really should be asleep but I can't sleep) but others can't help it if they don't work in essential services and are either working from home or out of work. And they absolutely should be self isolating.

It’s like Boris Johnson’s dad on live tv saying he will go to the pub to support businesses. Completely ridiculous.

If people are required to be in public for necessary reasons like medical staff, transport, people in shops then it keeps country going. Other than that, it is not required and doing more harm than good.

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 18-03-2020 02:42AM

First they came for Wuhan
And I did not speak out,
For I was not from Wuhan

Then they came for China,
And I didn't speak out,
For I was not Chinese

Then they came for Asia,
And I did not speak out,
For I was not Asian

Then they came for humanity,
And I did not speak out,
Because I could no longer breathe

cnocbui · 18-03-2020 02:42AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Kylemore/status/1239894611944001537

Hope they still have their iodine tablets handy, looks like they will be needing them after that little spill.

JP Liz V1 · 18-03-2020 02:43AM

Sometimes this thread feels like a Werewolf game

Syncpolice · 18-03-2020 02:43AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/fiannafailparty/status/1239914650336137223

Thought St Patrick drove out all the snakes

Maestro85 · 18-03-2020 02:44AM

Loaded question here... and not meaning to sound like a dolt but interested in hearing peoples opinions as I am on a panel for the civil service. I work in tourism so that sector is on it's last legs for the foreseeable future. What do you think the long term effects will have on the public/civil service?

P.S. sorry if this post annoys anyone as it's an economic question that makes me sound like an apathetic fool. I am just thinking long term here as I have a family and would appreciate peoples thoughts.

joeguevara · 18-03-2020 02:48AM

Maestro85 wrote: »

Loaded question here... and not meaning to sound like a dolt but interested in hearing peoples opinions as I am on a panel for the civil service. I work in tourism so that sector is on it's last legs for the foreseeable future. What do you think the long term effects will have on the public/civil service?

P.S. sorry if this post annoys anyone as it's an economic question that makes me sound like an apathetic fool. I am just thinking long term here as I have a family and would appreciate peoples thoughts.

It is impossible to answer and indeed irrelevant. We have never in modern society faced anything where there is no known outcome. It could pass quite quickly without much ramifications or it could continue with widespread catastrophe.

This is not like a market crash or a property crash. But at times like this, it’s best not to get anxious in things we have no control of.

Jurgen Klopp · 18-03-2020 02:49AM

Maestro85 wrote: »

Loaded question here... and not meaning to sound like a dolt but interested in hearing peoples opinions as I am on a panel for the civil service. I work in tourism so that sector is on it's last legs for the foreseeable future. What do you think the long term effects will have on the public/civil service?

P.S. sorry if this post annoys anyone as it's an economic question that makes me sound like an apathetic fool. I am just thinking long term here as I have a family and would appreciate peoples thoughts.

Just going off the 2008 recession, I'd assume a recruitment freeze and perhaps wage cuts?

Woodsie1 · 18-03-2020 02:52AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

I know there are people who seem to be revelling in a "we're all doomed" narrative but it's not about the numbers right now, it's the inevitable increase. Most of these will be people with mild symptoms, but either way, the more cases, the more deaths. And there are still people being cavalier about it.

I doubt that it'll get like Italy here percentage wise but comparison to Spain worries me. The first confirmed case here was 18/19 days ago. When Spain was at that point, the number of confirmed cases was even less than here today (troubling when you compare the two populations; although maybe there is more testing here) and look at the huge surge since.

Now it's still a different country which may not have had the same measures in place, but we are heading for a surge and need that dose of realism.

Those who can be in isolation should be.

The doomsday merchants are winding me up.Im doing evrything im asked to help prevent this spread,but people going on about 15000 cases here in 3 weeks when no other country has had the same is way over the top.

joeguevara wrote: »

When you say‘keep this country going’ what do you mean. I think angry posts are not really called for so haven’t read what preceded this, but am interested in what people are doing from now on.

Im a truck driver,ive 2 deliveries tomorrow 1 to a pharma place in cork and another in galway...the same as any other week...Then sleep in my truck somewhere towards dublin(depends on hours driven and hours worked) but ill do the same tomorrow...its not essential emergency supplies of ventilators or medicine so im no fcuking hero or anything :pac:...But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation...thats not a problem until fools start frightening the fcuk out of other with their doomsday scenarios.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Exactly you're bullsh!tting...

I call you out on it, and you have nothing!

You can't point out one instance where I attempted to hype this situation or scare anybody.

Stop being arrogant, and admit you don't have a clue how this thing is going to play out... just like practically everyone else in the world right now!

You don't know what is an overreaction, and what is a reasonable reaction to this situation... because you've never been through it before. Like the rest of us!

I'm not triggered or overly excited. Your little trucker video is just some kid who is confused and doesn't know what is going on in the country right now. He's trying to wrap his head around it, but is struggling... that's all I got from your video, buddy! (Not that there's anything wrong with that btw)

And good on him getting out in his truck and doing his bit to keep the country on it's feet... I am also trying to do my bit and still putting in hours in my job.

Ive havent bullsh1t about anything so wind your neck in there a relax

Cyclonius · 18-03-2020 02:52AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Just going off the 2008 recession, I'd assume a recruitment freeze and perhaps wage cuts?

On the other hand, you have a large percentage (20 to 30%) of staff who will hit their 40 years of service within the next two to three years. At least 10% in my office likely to go this year. Redeployment might counter some of that, but new staff will be needed.

BorneTobyWilde · 18-03-2020 02:52AM

Can see a lot of people killing themselves over this, might kill more than the virus. Too many have lost too much.

Strazdas · 18-03-2020 02:52AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

I know there are people who seem to be revelling in a "we're all doomed" narrative but it's not about the numbers right now, it's the inevitable increase. Most of these will be people with mild symptoms, but either way, the more cases, the more deaths. And there are still people being cavalier about it.

I doubt that it'll get like Italy here percentage wise but comparison to Spain worries me. The first confirmed case here was 18/19 days ago. When Spain was at that point, the number of confirmed cases was even less than here today (troubling when you compare the two populations; although maybe there is more testing here) and look at the huge surge since.

Now it's still a different country which may not have had the same measures in place, but we are heading for a surge and need that dose of realism.

Those who can be in isolation should be.

One glimmer of hope I'm taking is that we've only seen two fatalities in Ireland so far.

Looking at the numbers for Spain and the UK, either those guys are not doing a good job of treating their CV patients or the rate of infection is actually much higher per head of the population than Ireland.

Xertz · 18-03-2020 02:56AM

One big factor could be Ireland’s age profile is a lot younger than most of Europe. We had a baby boom in the late 1970s and early 80s and that was probably the first generation that stuck around. Our “boomers” are closer to being millennials (some are) whereas in many countries the demographic is definitely older, with a much larger cohort having been born sometime just after WWII than we have and that’s placing them in their 70s.

So we may have that in our favour.

Ireland actually has big issues ahead demographically when my generation born 79 to about 89 start to hit retirement in 25-30 years time as there are a LOT more of us than will be paying in.

davedanon · 18-03-2020 02:56AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation...

What a Hero.

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