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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    1882 wrote: »
    Too hard to keep up with this thread. I have to skip at least 50 pages everytime I check in.

    Agreed. Its like the virus. We can only hope to flatten the thread posting curve


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Perhaps it was a different poster. It's getting hard to keep up with the amount of different ones who seem to have lost rationality and are completely caught up in panic.

    Wardrobes full of toilet paper crew I'd imagine. I'm signing off for a bit. Too many have lost the run of themselves . Peace
    The worst case scenario from official sources, I meant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    Just glad we have professional TD'S in power. Imagine if SF had of ran more candidates and they were in power now. We really would be up **** street.


    What an odd statement.
    'Professional' TD's is exactly the reason they were voted against and can not form a government.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The reality is the disease is out of control here
    It is? Hardly.

    Now Italy - that's out of control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,714 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    I for one, along with 70,000 other bar staff effectively lost our jobs with the instant shut down of bars, it'll be long after March 29th before they're open again. And it had to be done, it really had to be done.
    On top of all the other chaos that is going to ensue, the realisation that the dole is not going to pay my rent is a very worrying thing. This is going to effect 100,000's of thousands of people, instantaneously.
    Well aware there's more important things to worry about, I have an elderly mother that I dearly love. The external repercussions are very worrying, we're all in the same boat :(

    Eviction would take up to 8 months. Relax and focus on what you need to do now. If you can bills you will. If you can't, you can't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,929 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    RobertKK wrote: »
    A lot of people were taken in by show over substance with Leo's speech.

    The reality is the disease is out of control here and no one will take responsibility for the lack of measures that allowed it to get out of control.

    Can you back up how it is out of control and what about in other countries?

    Can you name one European country where it could be deemed in control?

    I don't think it's out of control at all and the government are taking actions now.

    It's people here who are spreading the virus by not practicing social distancing or proper hand hygiene.

    You can't blame the government on everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Evictions and electricity/gas disconnections are for "won't pays", not "can't pays". And after an extremely long time of non payment/non engagement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭regedit


    joeguevara wrote: »
    There is information that we will experience 30% increase daily. However unless symptoms are unbearable advice is stay at home. Getting tested isn’t much point because no treatment. I think we have way more undetected cases.

    Valid point.
    An estimate has it that globally, for every diagnosed patient, there's 10-20x more undiagnosed ones with COVID-19. Meaning, if these got tested, they'd be positive. Also worth mentioning that some patient shave very mild symptoms and will have a very mild clinical picture therefore, not presenting for testing let a lone hospital admissions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    regedit wrote: »
    Valid point.
    An estimate has it that globally, for every diagnosed patient, there's 10-20x more undiagnosed ones with COVID-19. Meaning, if these got tested, they'd be positive. Also worth mentioning that some patient shave very mild symptoms and will have a very mild clinical picture therefore, not presenting for testing let a lone hospital admissions.

    I have no idea if you are correct or not but I really hope you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Can you back up how it is out of control and what about in other countries?

    Can you name one European country where it could be deemed in control?

    I don't think it's out of control at all and the government are taking actions now.

    It's people here who are spreading the virus by not practicing social distancing or proper hand hygiene.

    You can't blame the government on everything.

    There are some right scruffy cnuts out there. I was in work on Monday and there was a lady, sick as **** about 20 yards away from who just let rip with a sneeze. We were the only two on the floor. She didn't think anybody else was around. And the worst thing about where I work is that desks aren't assigned - you have to basically take what is available on a daily basis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It's ****ing downright bizarre how the virus is so severe on some people and not on others.

    Almost seems like a luck of the draw scenario.

    Sounds like it could be a particular blood group that this virus is targeting...

    Could also be the viral load that you acquire, when you become infected too. Which is even more reason to limit your contact with other people... keep your distance and don't congregate in groups within enclosed spaces if possible. Even if you get this thing, hopefully you might just get a light dose/small viral load... which could be survivable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭joe40


    I for one, along with 70,000 other bar staff effectively lost our jobs with the instant shut down of bars, it'll be long after March 29th before they're open again. And it had to be done, it really had to be done.
    On top of all the other chaos that is going to ensue, the realisation that the dole is not going to pay my rent is a very worrying thing. This is going to effect 100,000's of thousands of people, instantaneously.
    Well aware there's more important things to worry about, I have an elderly mother that I dearly love. The external repercussions are very worrying, we're all in the same boat :(

    That is really awful but is there any way rent can be frozen. I can't imagine evictions been tolerated for the next while. Maybe I'm been naive. Hope all works out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,173 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Mehan2000 wrote: »
    I’m just wondering how in most countries the virus is spreading to different parts of each country however in China it was mainly the Hubei province ? I know there were cases in other parts but it was mostly there.

    How can they get rid of it from a country with a population of 1.5 billion so quickly , are they reporting the real figures ?

    They are not rid of it, lots of areas still in lockdown,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Strength and will from the human race is the only thing to get through this all

    Touch wood when this is over we will be stronger people

    I'm too afraid to touch anything now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    nthclare wrote: »
    Anybody going bush craft?

    I hear the badgers will all rush you, pin you to the wet sodden ground and give you TB.

    Me, I like my central heating, fast internet connection, fridge, hot showers and a warm dry bed.

    Have fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    65535 wrote: »
    What an odd statement.
    'Professional' TD's is exactly the reason they were voted against and can not form a government.
    Who would you rather be looking after this ? Varadkar, Harris, Covney or Mary lou and Louise o Reilly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Any update on the poster whose 16 year old healthy sporty nephew was very sick, waiting on a test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Some people do not deserve to live.

    from WLRFM

    "The Waterford City branch of the Red Cross say there are a group of individuals pretending to be them are going door
    to door offering test swabs for the Coronavirus and charging one hundred euro.

    The Red Cross say the group are targeting older people.

    They say they do not carry out anything like this.

    They are advising anyone who is approached by this group to contact Gardai straight away.

    The Red Cross Members on duty always wear full uniform and also has to carry their unique membership ID card.

    "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    regedit wrote: »
    Valid point.
    An estimate has it that globally, for every diagnosed patient, there's 10-20x more undiagnosed ones with COVID-19. Meaning, if these got tested, they'd be positive. Also worth mentioning that some patient shave very mild symptoms and will have a very mild clinical picture therefore, not presenting for testing let a lone hospital admissions.

    If people followed official guidelines it is clear that only need to present to hospitals if symptoms become unbearable. But people are getting duped by fake WhatsApp and ‘from unknown sources’ and rocking up to hospitals and gps. A lot of the same people are then giving out about Leo speech even though it clearly outlined about social distancing.

    At this stage even if you have it, nothing needs to be done unless breathing is restricted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Some people do not deserve to live.

    from WLRFM

    "The Waterford City branch of the Red Cross say there are a group of individuals pretending to be them are going door
    to door offering test swabs for the Coronavirus and charging one hundred euro.

    The Red Cross say the group are targeting older people.

    They say they do not carry out anything like this.

    They are advising anyone who is approached by this group to contact Gardai straight away.

    The Red Cross Members on duty always wear full uniform and also has to carry their unique membership ID card.

    "

    That is absolutely disgusting. They need an absolute hiding


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Ursabear


    Surely this isn't legal :? Kicking ppl out of accomodation because of coronavirus fears of spread https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/coronavirus-trinity-students-criticise-move-to-shut-campus-housing-1.4205145


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Airport still wide open to flights from all over the World incl France, Italy, Spain, China, Iran etc. No virus screening on entry whatsoever.

    Yet Leo gives Paddy a pep talk and tells him to keep washing his hands because soon we'll have 15,000 infected.

    Farce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Varadkar’s speech was a bit like someone reading in a leaving cert English class who has been told to use more expression, very strange and not a lot of hard facts.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Airport still wide open to flights from all over the World incl France, Italy, Spain, China, Iran etc. No virus screening on entry whatsoever.

    Yet Leo gives Paddy a pep talk and tells him to keep washing his hands because soon we'll have 15,000 infected.

    Farce.

    Do we have direct flights to Iran or China? I dont believe we do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Varadkar’s speech was a bit like someone reading in a leaving cert English class who has been told to use more expression, very strange and not a lot of hard facts.

    He has never been a good orator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Stheno wrote: »
    Do we have direct flights to Iran or China? I dont believe we do

    Nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,038 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Maybe its my overly active brain keeping me awake, but an idea just occurred, although I have no clue whether it would be feasible.

    We keep hearing about how stretched the health service (hospitals in particular) will get if the projected figure comes to pass. I was wondering would it feasible if those temporarily out of work, myself included, could be trained up to help out, be it carrying out basic medical treatment to the affected or even adminstering the swab test? Hazmat suits included of course.

    Between community nurses, paramedics, army personnel etc. there surely would be enough expertise to carry a one-day course as a matter of urgency. Just doing a quick count of the towns and villages in my area too, it is easy to identify suitable buildings currently out of use that could become temporary wards (sports clubs, community halls, schools). Not every town and village are going to be stretched with confirmed cases.

    Maybe I am too influenced by the community shelters that pop up in America after a severe natural disaster, and by the WW2 films with the trauma centres located anywhere they can, including churches, but if this is really going to get as apocalyptic as some fear, its a measure worth considering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    In fairness, these threads with their self-pitying fearmongering have probably killed more people in Ireland than the virus has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Varadkar’s speech was a bit like someone reading in a leaving cert English class who has been told to use more expression, very strange and not a lot of hard facts.
    15000 cases by the end of the month , loans taken out by the government will take years to payback hard enough facts in them 2 statements alone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Stheno wrote: »
    Do we have direct flights to Iran or China? I dont believe we do

    Don't you dare try and bring facts into this!!


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