CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

17-03-2020 06:49PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Fashion industry I'd guess, lots of Italian clothes companies traveling to China to their manufacturing plants to work on new ranges of clothes especially in northern Italy

Large chinese population too,afaik textile industrt is based there

Upto few weeks ago a direct flight from wuhan to italy was possible (only to rome i think,though)

stephenjmcd · 17-03-2020 06:49PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

My sister said a street party is happening on the street over from hers in Dublin. :rolleyes::mad: People were cheering her as she drove through the crowd.

People aren't really getting it, are they? On my drive around today, it was busy enough with walkers.

Nothing wrong with going for a walk

threeball · 17-03-2020 06:49PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

Apparently Germany don't count it as a Coronavirus death if there is pre-existing conditions. I don't think this variance helps matters. Europe should have a standard output of figures.

branie2 · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nothing wrong with going for a walk

As long as the walkers are a meter apart

bigroad · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

Reading some of the comments on here I would safely say about 40 percent of the Irish population are brain dead.

RandomName2 · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

The virus spread to Italy by a single individual. That individual was from Germany, who had been infected at his business by a visitor from China, who in term had been infected from their relatives visiting them from Wuhan.

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

walshb wrote: »

I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

I think most cinemas are closed from tonight, fast food should be restricted to drive thru/delivery only from now on

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Nothing wrong with going for a walk

Yes, it would be nearly impossible to contract CV by just going for a walk.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 17-03-2020 06:50PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Forbes says 77000 lives might have been saved by the lack of air pollution in china too.

If we could all just slow down, buy less cheap crap, travel less. Things could really improve across the board

I'm down with that. I've been really thinking the last few years about how much travelling I'm really entitled to. Some of the overcrowding in cities I've visited in the last few years has sickened me and I'm very well aware that I'm part of the problem. I think everyone should travel less, to be honest. Better for the environment and makes life bearable for people living in the tourist hotspots.

WoollyRedHat · 17-03-2020 06:51PM

The government should be even more decisive and close down amenities /shut down activities that promote social gathering i.e. shopping centres, food and cafe outlets where sit-down/ eat in is provided and any other shopping outlets such as clothing stores for next two weeks.

They should also clearly communicate that while lockdown is not envisaged at present, it cannot be ruled out if people do not respect the custom of social distancing during the restricted period, with emergency powers sought to enforce this if necessary.

GeorgeBailey · 17-03-2020 06:51PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

To think last week we had posters on here (who we all know but shall remain nameless ) saying we had this under control and the totals would max out around 10 cases!

I have a 10 year old nephew who could look around the globe and see numbers with the virus and death rate and make a fair stab at our infection rate, with 4th class maths. Seriously some posters, that's a shocking indictment of your IQ, it's below special level maths for the leaving cert.

It's good though that there are still people around to say "I told you so"

all about the mane · 17-03-2020 06:51PM

Xertz wrote: »

Cinemas shouldn't be open.

Fast food joints, if they're applying proper social distancing and are take-away only, should not really be a problem.

Unhealthy as they maybe, they're also potentially going to be useful in getting some people hot meals.

The issue is people congregating and standing too close.

For example, fast-food places could take all orders online / by phone and for quick pick up only. No queues. In, pick up, leave.

Phone/Online pre-ordering could also be something useful for a lot of smaller shops e.g. butchers, bakers, small supermarkets / convenience stores etc.

Anywhere with a drive-through will make a mint

begbysback · 17-03-2020 06:51PM

Christy42 wrote: »

Depends on the type of immigrant. This would have been initially spread by those who travel frequently. I.e. rich people. If there was plenty of rich Chinese people over for fashion shows or whatever in Milan it would have spread quickly there while if those in Australia were poorer they may travel less.

Ive often watched that programme in the airport in Australia, border something I think its called, the number of Chinese bringing food across and not declared - always thought the Australians were making such a drama out of it for the cameras, makes sense now.

I really don't want to blame Chinese people, any Ive met have always been complete ladies & gentleman, but some of the goings on over there really need to stop.

17-03-2020 06:51PM

threeball wrote: »

Why does it matter so much. If they told you the virus was on your street would you move out?

Why does it bother you that it bothers me?

Cork Boy 53 · 17-03-2020 06:51PM

walshb wrote: »

I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

Close them all. The REI head said the same this morning on RTE Radio 1.

threeball · 17-03-2020 06:52PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Italy has huge economic links with China. Alot of chinese money pumped in to businesses there post the 2008 crash so alot of business travel. The fashion trade also, manufactured in China, designed and marketed as Italian.

17-03-2020 06:52PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

The virus spread to Italy by a single individual. That individual was from Germany, who had been infected at his business by a visitor from China, who in term had been infected from their relatives visiting them from Wuhan.

I dont for one second doubt you

But is there an article outlineing this,i read up on patient 31 korea,find this type thing interesting

17-03-2020 06:52PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

I've heard mentioned in a couple of places that many now think that the initial cases in Italy came from someone who was connected to an outbreak in Bavaria at a car parts firm. This same person was then going in and out of hospital in Italy (must have been Lombardy region) without being picked up as the coronavirus. not much about it online but have heard it mentioned in news reports and a podcast.

a lot of right-wing agenda groups picked up on a possible immigrant angle and spread that everywhere.

think that this is it.

https://www.inquisitr.com/5931767/italy-coronavirus-german-webasto/

wadacrack · 17-03-2020 06:52PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

Pro active testing like South Korea. Notice both have a higher percentage of younger people. That's important to establish as they will be the ones likely to transmit it

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-03-2020 06:53PM

Volkswagen Group closing its factories

Xertz · 17-03-2020 06:53PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Anywhere with a drive-through will make a mint

A lot of places that aren't drive through could become so too.

Put menus up in your carpark and sort out your phones to take orders.

It's not 1974 and you don't necessarily need to be setup like a McDonnalds drive thru with speakers and all of that.

Just text in the orders. Deliver them to car windows in the carpark

A bit of creativity and thinking outside the box could keep a lot of stuff flowing and remain very safe.

Chong · 17-03-2020 06:53PM

Seeing a lot of folk on personal social channels , WhatsApp, Insta getting out and about. I am all for a walk but not in areas like Glendalough etc with it being so busy.

fritzelly · 17-03-2020 06:53PM

Xertz wrote: »

Methodologies may be differing across different countries both in terms of testing and what's being reported.

I would be a little careful about making direct comparisons right now.

They're all doing their own thing.

All you can really look at is trends. They're showing what's working and what isn't.

Germany and S Korea are two outliers with their death numbers - are S Korea doing the same as Germany?

Macdarack · 17-03-2020 06:54PM

threeball wrote: »

Why does it matter so much. If they told you the virus was on your street would you move out?

Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:54PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Close them all. The REI head said the same this morning on RTE Radio 1.

What's your obsession with shutting everything down, cinemas are an obvious thing to close but people need food and if restaurants can provide food in a safe manner(drive thru or delivery) they should be encouraged to stay open IMO

igCorcaigh · 17-03-2020 06:54PM

The distancing measures will work, but the reduced rate of spread might not be apparent due to increased testing picking up on more cases.

Let's not be quick to lose faith in social distancing when we look at daily case numbers over the next couple of weeks.

Hector Savage · 17-03-2020 06:54PM

So my wife won't get sick pay here in Spain, check this - she would have to get infected with the CoronaVirus to receive sick pay.

F*cking third world sh1thole!!!

Can't even get the dole here - unless you get fired , it's a f*cking joke!!!

Volthar · 17-03-2020 06:55PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

The government should be even more decisive and close down amenities /shut down activities that promote social gathering i.e. shopping centres, food and cafe outlets where sit-down/ eat in is provided and any other shopping outlets such as clothing stores for next two weeks.

They should also clearly communicate that while lockdown is not envisaged at present, it cannot be ruled out if people do not respect the custom of social distancing during the restricted period, with emergency powers sought to enforce this if necessary.

I am sure this is on the table and will be introduced when it becomes necessary.

begbysback · 17-03-2020 06:55PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

The virus spread to Italy by a single individual. That individual was from Germany, who had been infected at his business by a visitor from China, who in term had been infected from their relatives visiting them from Wuhan.

It can actually be traced to a specific individual?

The individual from Germany, was he in Italy or Germany when he contracted? Did he stay in Italy, or head back to Germany?

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 06:55PM

begbysback wrote: »

This can only be a good thing, people will then take more precautions not to affect others - its the serious cases, and death numbers that we want to keep low.

People should be doing this anyway. Thats why I think county breakdown help more. If a county is very bad it might encourage people to stop going cinema/restaurants/gathering in large crowds etc.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP