CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 06:41PM

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

begbysback · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Talisman · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I was wondering was that it. Odd they dont just say the province then.

The people of Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal might be fearful that they have to answer for the cases in NI.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

LRNM wrote: »

My parents are due to holiday in Greece at the end of April.
I've been trying to tell them for weeks now that it's cancelled but they're in so much denial.

Doesn't help that bookings.com are being pure scummy and leading them on saying all is well and their bookings are still valid etc.

Listen if you've already told them and they watch/listen to the news then they are well informed.

Some people don't want to accept the reality of this (I've found that a lot of older folk are in complete denial).

We cancelled our April trip a month ago.

If they don't cancel we'll then that's up to them to decide as adults, they won't be going on the trip either way.

Mwengwe · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

grindle wrote: »

Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

"Be grand"

I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

Dangerously uninformed posting.

stephenjmcd · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

Dilan Stocky Tiller wrote: »

As of yesterday we had 5 recovered. One in the East and the cluster of 4 from Clare (inc the GP).

At least they didn't drag out the information tonight.

Will take time for that number to go up, cases grew at a slow rate for the first week or 2.

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 06:42PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

german people are stronger than the rest

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:43PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Did the they mention anything about the staff need to operate them. From what I've read it's highly specialised and so the staff could be the limiting factor even if we have the machines.

They've written to recently retired staff to ask them to come back to work to help out, I'd hope staff are being trained up too to work these machines

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 06:43PM

France
new cases 1097 deaths 27
Totals 7700 175

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 06:43PM

Italian figures by region for today.

Ricoverati con sintomi = Hospitalised
Terapia intensiva = Intensive care
Isolamento domiciliare = Isolated at home
Totale attualmente positivi = Total currently positive
DIMESSI/ GUARITI = Cured
DECEDUTI = Dead
CASI TOTALI = Total Cases
TAMPONI = Tests

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 06:44PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Jesus the positive numbers will sky rocket once the new test kits arrive on Thursday

Not necessarily a bad thing. Dr Holohan says they will be watching the numbers like a hawk this weekend to see what impact social distancing is having. Sunday or so should be the first indicator.

Cork Boy 53 · 17-03-2020 06:44PM

The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-03-2020 06:44PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

I'm fairly sure I saw somewhere Germany was only reporting deaths that are exclusively due to coronavirus. Not sure though.

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 06:45PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italian figures by region for today.

Ricoverati con sintomi = Hospitalised
Terapia intensiva = Intensive care
Isolamento domiciliare = Isolated at home
Totale attualmente positivi = Total currently positive
DIMESSI/ GUARITI = Cured
DECEDUTI = Dead
CASI TOTALI = Total Cases
TAMPONI = Tests

Jesus Lombardy really is the Italian Wuhan, hopefully the lockdown starts to show results in the other regions soon.

17-03-2020 06:45PM

RoryMac wrote: »

They've written to recently retired staff to ask them to come back to work to help out, I'd hope staff are being trained up too to work these machines

Surely its reckless to ask retirees back to work on frontline??

Like put them out back on contact tracing etc??

Antares35 · 17-03-2020 06:45PM

completedit wrote: »

Honestly, what do people get from the above “5000 cases in Madrid”, we know the situation, we know it’s highly contagious but we also know a small fraction of these people will end up suffering, let alone dying, I get it, we are living in epochal changing times, but I just feel this constant updates of cases emanating from Italy, now Spain, misses the point and sort of trivializes what’s happening.

What’s important is the hospitals are able to cope. Sadly people will die even if they can cope.

I actually think some people thrive on stuff like that. Its likes someone posts something remotely hopeful and they are shot down with a reminder that we will all die and the world is f*cked. Its a kind of doom junkyism, likely a first cousin of voyeurism, the same ones who stop and rubber neck at fatal car crashes.

callaway92 · 17-03-2020 06:45PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

What a weird thing to say.

You’re skeptical he’s lying???

You come out with some great comments Walsh... my god

completedit · 17-03-2020 06:45PM

How come the purported “top class” Northern Italian medical suffered so poorly. How come we didn’t eat horror stories from Spanish ICU’s like we have in Italy?

Lord TSC · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm fairly sure I saw somewhere Germany was only reporting deaths that are exclusively due to coronavirus. Not sure though.

Coupled with their intensive testing procedures.

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Fashion industry I'd guess, lots of Italian clothes companies traveling to China to their manufacturing plants to work on new ranges of clothes especially in northern Italy

Xertz · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

Methodologies may be differing across different countries both in terms of testing and what's being reported.

I would be a little careful about making direct comparisons right now.

They're all doing their own thing.

All you can really look at is trends. They're showing what's working and what isn't.

threeball · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’m in Leitrim which is Connaught. Connaught would be west but I’m sure I’d be north west.

Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are ulster but they aren’t all in the same N, S, E, W area.

It’s still too confusing b

Why does it matter so much. If they told you the virus was on your street would you move out?

Christy42 · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Depends on the type of immigrant. This would have been initially spread by those who travel frequently. I.e. rich people. If there was plenty of rich Chinese people over for fashion shows or whatever in Milan it would have spread quickly there while if those in Australia were poorer they may travel less.

begbysback · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Jesus the positive numbers will sky rocket once the new test kits arrive on Thursday

This can only be a good thing, people will then take more precautions not to affect others - its the serious cases, and death numbers that we want to keep low.

walshb · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 06:46PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm fairly sure I saw somewhere Germany was only reporting deaths that are exclusively due to coronavirus. Not sure though.

I saw the same but even if its true that doesnt explain their recovered and serious\critical numbers

Xertz · 17-03-2020 06:48PM

walshb wrote: »

I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

Cinemas shouldn't be open.

Fast food joints, if they're applying proper social distancing and are take-away only, should not really be a problem.

Unhealthy as they maybe, they're also potentially going to be useful in getting some people hot meals.

The issue is people congregating and standing too close.

For example, fast-food places could take all orders online / by phone and for quick pick up only. No queues. In, pick up, leave.

Phone/Online pre-ordering could also be something useful for a lot of smaller shops e.g. butchers, bakers, small supermarkets / convenience stores etc.

smelly sock · 17-03-2020 06:48PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

Sssshhhhh its grand. Stop.

kowloon · 17-03-2020 06:48PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Would Limerick be classed as South or West even?

South Central.

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely its reckless to ask retirees back to work on frontline??

Like put them out back on contact tracing etc??

I agree but anyone trained on the use of ventilators will be needed regardless of age

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP