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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #5342
    jamesf85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭jamesf85


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Did you tell this to any Italian? Back to normal after 4 weeks.

    Italy have been in lockdown for a week.

    Lets see what happens if they continue that way for 3 months. Who's going to be in a position to bail them out?

    How will they support their 50-60% unemployed population? How will they run their hospitals? schools? banks?

    Italy will lift measures, they will have no choice not to. Even if they continue this exact stance for 3 months. How do they ever lift the ban and open their borders, do you think India, Africa etc will have it under control?

    The only thing we can do here is all take this incredibly seriously...keep isolated where possible and practise good hygiene to try and slow this down and not overburden our hospitals. Italy got to where they are because their population treated it like a normal flu, we're not doing that now. We also have a massive advantage in that we have a very dispersed population (apart from Dublin)


  • #5343
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    You can't compare the world of 100 years ago to the world now.

    Spanish flu had been allowed to spread unchecked and unacknowledged by officialdom as it was deemed bad for moral - that's why it's called the 'Spanish' flu, Spain wasn't involved in WWI so the press there wrote about it.


    They also did not have social media with a bunch of muppets saying



    "lets all catch it together, bury the dead and then get on with it"



    They let "Herd Immunity" do it for because they knew no better.


  • #5344
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Breen608 wrote: »
    Which knock on effects did nobody see coming?

    I did not see the amount of economic damage for a start.


  • #5345
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    kowloon wrote: »
    They're not stupid as another poster suggests, they just don't care about spreading the virus. Some people only behave because there is a penalty for not doing so, rather than just doing what is best for everyone because it's the right thing to do. Show them what you think of their house party, a little shaming often sets a cnut in the right direction.

    People shaming. How very 50s Irish of you. Perhaps we should set up a laundry for them or something.


  • #5346
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    MipMap wrote: »
    Fully Agree.



    I can't understand why people focus on the number of new cases as if it means anything. It just reflects the level of testing. The more new cases we see actually means we are detecting more and isolating them before they infect others.


    The only relevant metrics are - Seriously ill (ICU), and (sadly) deaths.


    The figure for ICU for Ireland (6) has not changed for 5 days so I am not sure how reliable it is.


    In time the recovery rate is also a good indicator.
    No it dosen't, it reflects the number of reported cases.

    See previous post on 'stealth transmission' and need for statistically valid random population test sampling.


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  • #5347
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,776 ✭✭✭threeball


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Do you want to be the small percentage that doesn't make it through?

    Thats the difficult part. If we isolate the vunerable for a period the healthy people protect them with the immunity that develops. The better we do that the better the outcome and the sooner we return to normality


  • #5348
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Nothing. Social distancing is it. Complete lockdown is just a draconian version of it.

    People just don't understand social distancing. My workplace has staggered breaks and loads of space and people come sitting down beside me. Now I have to let people sit down before me and I take my seat after and away from people. I have no problem sitting on my own. But others seem to have a problem with being on their own.


  • #5349
    AllGunsBlazing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    Does anyone think if a shutdown of all airlines is possible shortly? And on another note, an Ireland lockdown? Seems like the UK could possibly be heading for one of the media is to believed

    If anything the UK seems to be taking a softly, softly approach. They seem terrified that
    the economy might absolutely tank. It will have to get to biblical proportions before they consider a full lockdown imo.


  • #5350
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Tuesday_Girl wrote: »
    No, they closed all schools and colleges, creches, cafes, bars and restaurants since yesterday and until April 6 at least.

    Closing schools has nothing to do with the 'flatten the curve' policy the Dutch are following - the measures you mention are designed to mitigate the spread not halt it.

    Rutte said that imposing a complete lockdown "may seem attractive on the face of it, but experts point out that it wouldn't be a matter of days or weeks. In that scenario, we would actually have to shut down our country for a year, or even longer, with all the consequences that follow."

    Instead, Rutte said that his government had chosen to control the risk of the virus as far as possible in order to build up immunity to the virus — which “may take months or even longer” — and to make sure that the hospitals have enough capacity to help sick patients.
    As of 8:40PM LAST NIGHT (after closures were annnounced)
    https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-pm-mark-rutte-we-wont-impose-national-lockdown-coronavirus-covid19/


  • #5351
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    scamalert wrote: »
    Load of BS, they keep getting worse even in lock-down mode, numbers climbing up, look at UK no lockdowns and its quite stable, so something doesnt connect.
    china has almost full recoveries now- hard to believe that 1.4bill managed to contain it so good, where italy surpasses them in deaths.

    Because the numbers of sick are two weeks behind any lockdown professor. If they’d taken their steps two weeks previously we’d be seeing drops on the number of ill.


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  • #5352
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Population of the US : 327 million
    Cases : 4,400

    Population of Europe: 741 million
    Cases : 51,000

    Twice the population with 10 times the number of cases. Very roughly

    The 17 European countries listed here have conducted 237,000 tests. The US, also listed there, has conducted 21,558.


  • #5353
    Duggie2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Duggie2012


    LastFridayNight wrote: »
    Prob not. But I would be happy to give some of mine now to help fund a ventilator.

    So wud i. I was just wondering in the worst case scenario cud the state say we need the money sorry people.


  • #5354
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    You can't compare the world of 100 years ago to the world now.

    Spanish flu had been allowed to spread unchecked and unacknowledged by officialdom as it was deemed bad for moral - that's why it's called the 'Spanish' flu, Spain wasn't involved in WWI so the press there wrote about it.

    It occured during a time when the continent of Europe was literally devastated by war, the countries who had been involved in that war were economically on their knees (bar the USA), and given the medical knowledge at the time treating casualties of a mechanised war was beyond the skill set of most medics - never mind combatting a virus.

    Large groups of people were moved around the globe en mass - and untested. We are talking cruise ship amounts not plane full amounts as troops were sent home. Literally whole armies returning from infected areas then spreading across their home country.

    If we had the same 'world' now as then Covid 19 would be running unchecked too.


    yes watched a fantastic documentary on this on smithsonian channel the other night...the US was the ground zero for spanish flu...they believe it originated in the mid west and a soldier who had just been drafted for the dying days of WW1 was patient zero...he was the cook for the army barracks...it then spread like wildfire...

    the authorities decided to keep it quiet as they needed to keep drafting soldiers...journalists were even prosecuted if they mentioned anything about it in american newspapers...massive parades to earn bond money for the war effort were still allowed go ahead despite the outbreak

    as it was running wild throughout the US, Woodrow Wilson was advised by his own doctor not to send the last of the convoy ships full of soldiers to europe...in the end he refused and that's how europe got it...

    apparently the german soldiers were only 90 miles from paris when they started coming down with it and they credited the flu with perhaps changing the outcome of the war.

    ironically wilson himself got it when he was conducting peace talk in europe...he survived but they said he was not the same afterwards and believe his brain functions had deteriorated

    ironically the cook who set the whole thing off survived the flu and after the war opened a restaurant and lived to his 70s


  • #5355
    NasserShammaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    cosanostra wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1239889857066999808?s=20

    Yes this is the British PMs father!

    Go on you fcuker a d share some peanuts with people sitting really close... odious cnut


  • #5356
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,188 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    otnomart wrote: »
    https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2020/03/17/lung-scans-covid-19-thirtysomethings-show-scary-picture/
    from Belgium

    Fuuuu


  • #5357
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    We have been in 5 days now, will go out IF we have to go to work at end of week, although I wish they would just suspend stuff for a while. I don't mind being in, would honestly not be bored if it went on forever. BUT one horrible thing I have discovered is that if there is even one single nice thing to eat in the house himself will have rooted it out and eaten it waaaaay before I even remember it exists :( Basterd


  • #5358
    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Just went into Londis on parkgate street

    Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

    Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

    Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

    Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick


  • #5359
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    ITman88 wrote: »
    We need to be carful making fleeting statements to prevent causing panic.

    85million were quoted as having died during during that war.

    Where did you get your predicted figures

    Read somewhere that survival rate for CV was 98.2%.


  • #5360
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Anyone starting to get cabin fever already?
    I'm going for a drive in a while to get out of the house.


  • #5361
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gynoid wrote: »
    We have been in 5 days now, will go out IF we have to go to work at end of week, although I wish they would just suspend stuff for a while. I don't mind being in, would honestly not be bored if it went on forever. BUT one horrible thing I have discovered is that if there is even one single nice thing to eat in the house himself will have rooted it out and eaten it waaaaay before I even remember it exists :( Basterd
    You need a stash!:D


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  • #5362
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Just went into Londis on parkgate street

    Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

    Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

    Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

    Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick

    He deals with the public all day long. You can't blame him for trying to protect his health.


  • #5363
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Based on that, how long before we see property prices drop?

    Seriously?

    Thousands of people could lose their homes, or best case have their credit rating destroyed, and you want to shoot the breeze on the cost of houses at some point in the future?

    It doesn't matter what houses cost if people can't afford to live in them.


  • #5364
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Just went into Londis on parkgate street

    Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

    Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

    Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

    Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick

    Well, hes doing what we're all being told to do.


  • #5365
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Lewis_Benson wrote: »
    Anyone starting to get cabin fever already?
    I'm going for a drive in a while to get out of the house.

    You don't have to.stay in your home. No need for cabin fever. Go out, just don't mix with people.


  • #5366
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Houses, not homes

    Are you serious?


  • #5367
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Just went into Londis on parkgate street

    Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

    Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

    Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

    Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick

    Yeah it sounds like he just want's an excuse to be a prick


  • #5368
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Lewis_Benson wrote: »
    Anyone starting to get cabin fever already?
    I'm going for a drive in a while to get out of the house.

    Sounds like a good idea sure the roads will be pretty empty and with everything shut it will be nice just to take in nature.


  • #5369
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »
    Just went into Londis on parkgate street

    Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

    Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

    Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

    Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick

    This post says more about you than him tbh


  • #5370
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,515 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Euro 2020 gone till next year.

    Tokyo 2020. That surely can’t go ahead?


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  • #5371
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Seriously?

    Thousands of people could lose their homes, or best case have their credit rating destroyed, and you want to shoot the breeze on the cost of houses at some point in the future?

    It doesn't matter what houses cost if people can't afford to live in them.

    And their lives !!

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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