CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Mervyn Skidmore · 17-03-2020 01:12PM

saabsaab wrote: »

I was thinking of how would our great leaders of the past have faced up to this. De Valera or Michael Collins?

Well they wouldn't have had the advanced warning from China for one.

sjb25 · 17-03-2020 01:12PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answers with confidence on what happens after March 29? More restrictions, less, or the same?

Nobody has a clue but personally I very much doubt much will of got better by then we can hope though

mcgucc22 · 17-03-2020 01:12PM

saabsaab wrote: »

I was thinking of how would our great leaders of the past have faced up to this. De Valera or Michael Collins?

oh really well i'd say. Collins was an epidemiologist in his spare time while dev fancied himself as an amateur biochemist specialising in coronaviruses.

bilston · 17-03-2020 01:12PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

This is much bigger than I expected shocking.

It shows how selfish and disconnected from reality those people are who are crying about not been able to go out on the piss.

Even those of us who have jobs rely on selling to everybody else how long will that last.

Scary times we are living in.

People not being able to go out on the piss and watch football, and fly to games and stay in hotels and spend money is what is causing people to lose their jobs.

It's the right call obviously, but how long can it be maintained?

18 months until a vaccine is HOPEFULLY found?

Loafing Oaf · 17-03-2020 01:12PM

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone answers with confidence on what happens after March 29? More restrictions, less, or the same?

Definitely won't be less. Tbh though, I don't see much scope for further restrictions, we're close enough to total lockdown already...

scamalert · 17-03-2020 01:13PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

This is much bigger than I expected shocking.

It shows how selfish and disconnected from reality those people are who are crying about not been able to go out on the piss.

Even those of us who have jobs rely on selling to everybody else how long will that last.

Scary times we are living in.

sounds like you want to have your cake both ways, oh bad people are out, oh no because everything is closed we will be in far more trouble

one either works as usual, or faces extreme reality no work no taxes people will be let go, someone will have to fork out massive payoffs and dole, as people wont have any income, not bad for those who save, but otherwise many will get fcked over, harsh but true, if virus wont do em any harm then economy will finish some harder then anything else.

MipMap · 17-03-2020 01:13PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Just shoot them dead. Burn the bodies and send a 6 pack of Stella Artois to the families.

Absolutely Not!

An invoice for the bullet instead.

wakka12 · 17-03-2020 01:13PM

Are Netherlands still going with the herd immunity approach even after the UK pulled out?

CinemaGuy45 · 17-03-2020 01:13PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Christ are you still saying pubs and offices are the same.

We had a really bad alcoholic in the family they are like zombies sad.

Whatsisname · 17-03-2020 01:14PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

People are still so clueless in the UK. A prominent enough UK breast cancer survivor who is also a doctor and not long finished with treatment put up a tweet yesterday evening wondering whether or not she should go to the gym. Seriously, like? She is at least getting admonished in the replies. She’s in a position of influence. She should know better.

I've posted a few times now about the UKs reaction to this as I live over here.

Yesterday we had a meeting in work that was basically, "we're working here until the government says otherwise." The government then said, people should work from home where possible yesterday evening before we finished up for the day, we watched the press conference live in work too so nobody missed the news.

Today, I'm the only person who didn't go into work and worked from home.

I live directly across the road from a few bars and cafes, I've seen people go in and out of them all day and a lot of people just carrying on like its a regular day.

I literally don't understand the thought process of a lot of Brits right now.

whisky_galore · 17-03-2020 01:14PM

saabsaab wrote: »

I was thinking of how would our great leaders of the past have faced up to this. De Valera or Michael Collins?

Look up the big snow of '47, natural disaster in Devs time. Govt were criticised for being slow to act iirc.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/big-snow-1947-death-isolation-and-entire-towns-snowed-in-1.3412613

is_that_so · 17-03-2020 01:14PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Definitely won't be less. Tbh though, I don't see much scope for further restrictions, we're close enough to total lockdown already...

Yep and it really is down to us, all of us, how much worse it gets in terms of cases.

hotshots85 · 17-03-2020 01:15PM

What happens after social distancing? Do we get a jump in the curve again? If everyone’s tries to go back to normal are we back to square one?

What have China done?

lawred2 · 17-03-2020 01:16PM

Is it time for the banks to simply freeze all debts. And stop seeking repayments.

No point pulling cash out of collapsing economies

otnomart · 17-03-2020 01:16PM

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2020/03/17/lung-scans-covid-19-thirtysomethings-show-scary-picture/
from Belgium

threeball · 17-03-2020 01:16PM

bilston wrote: »

People not being able to go out on the piss and watch football, and fly to games and stay in hotels and spend money is what is causing people to lose their jobs.

It's the right call obviously, but how long can it be maintained?

18 months until a vaccine is HOPEFULLY found?

You'll have caught it and gained natural immunity long before then. Thats the reality.

jamesf85 · 17-03-2020 01:17PM

scamalert wrote: »

sounds like you want to have your cake both ways, oh bad people are out, oh no because everything is closed we will be in far more trouble one either works as usual, or faces extreme reality no work no taxes people will be let go, someone will have to fork out massive payoffs and dole, as people wont have any income, not bad for those who save, but otherwise many will get fcked over, harsh but true, if virus wont do em any harm then economy will finish some harder then anything else.

This won't go on for more than 4 weeks.

There'd be nothing left in the way of an economy after. There'd be no taxes paid, no money to pay the public sector and no money to bail us out.

This virus isn't going away any time soon. But we won't have a prayer against it if we have no money to fight it.

I think some want us to put human life above all else, and others want to put the economy...but the reality is they are both completely intertwined and reliant on each other.

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

hotshots85 wrote: »

What happens after social distancing? Do we get a jump in the curve again? If everyone’s tries to go back to normal are we back to square one?

What have China done?

The W.H.O are saying leave that for another day. Throw everything in your arsenal at the virus right now and see where we are in a few week's time.....maybe something might change and the virus starts to run into trouble

Loafing Oaf · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

hotshots85 wrote: »

What happens after social distancing? Do we get a jump in the curve again? If everyone’s tries to go back to normal are we back to square one?

What have China done?

Very hard to know what's really going on in China but places like Hong Kong and Singapore seem to have genuinely got on top of it. To me the stuff they did doesn't look much more extreme than what we've been doing in Europe for a while with not much impact so far so I don't really know...

Chardee MacDennis · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Is it time for the banks to simply freeze all debts. And stop seeking repayments.

No point pulling cash out of collapsing economies

You know the banks play a major role in the economy. The money they get from laon repayments doesn't just disappear...

bekker · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

Talisman wrote: »

Does it mention that their original decision was based on using data for viral pneumonia rather than Covid-19?

Not that I recollect, this strategy based on study from Imp Coll showing previous strategy best case 250,000 dead and Nat Health overwhelmed times over. Prev strategy needed to be 3 mths duration, current strat. needs min. 5 mths to be effective, according to modelling. Even if vaccine developed 18 mths to do population.

elperello · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

mcgucc22 wrote: »

oh really well i'd say. Collins was an epidemiologist in his spare time while dev fancied himself as an amateur biochemist specialising in coronaviruses.

Actually Dev really was an accomplished mathematician so he'd probably have done the numbers.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-03-2020 01:18PM

bilston wrote: »

People not being able to go out on the piss and watch football, and fly to games and stay in hotels and spend money is what is causing people to lose their jobs.

It's the right call obviously, but how long can it be maintained?

18 months until a vaccine is HOPEFULLY found?

The death rates in Italy are scary right now the things you mention are banned when we get to the realty Italy is facing nobody will want to do them.

One thing we are all learning is everything that is done or happens seems to have loads of side effects and knock on effects none of us seen coming.

The amount of outright denial seen in these threads is going to be hard for future generations to believe.

lawred2 · 17-03-2020 01:19PM

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

You know the banks play a major role in the economy. The money they get from laon repayments doesn't just disappear...

Obviously

You hardly think they are going to be lending it back out though do you?

How could any institution lend in this climate?

So how exactly are they going to contribute to the economy if money is only going one way and credit lines are disappearing?

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 01:19PM

jamesf85 wrote: »

This won't go on for more than 4 weeks.

There'd be nothing left in the way of an economy after. There'd be no taxes paid, no money to pay the public sector and no money to bail us out.

This virus isn't going away any time soon. But we won't have a prayer against it if we have no money to fight it.

I think some want us to put human life above all else, and others want to put the economy...but the reality is they are both completely intertwined and reliant on each other.

Did you tell this to any Italian? Back to normal after 4 weeks.

is_that_so · 17-03-2020 01:19PM

hotshots85 wrote: »

What happens after social distancing? Do we get a jump in the curve again? If everyone’s tries to go back to normal are we back to square one?

What have China done?

Nothing. Social distancing is it. Complete lockdown is just a draconian version of it.

Tuesday_Girl · 17-03-2020 01:19PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Are Netherlands still going with the herd immunity approach even after the UK pulled out?

No, they closed all schools and colleges, creches, cafes, bars and restaurants since yesterday and until April 6 at least.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 17-03-2020 01:20PM

Whatsisname wrote: »

I've posted a few times now about the UKs reaction to this as I live over here.

Yesterday we had a meeting in work that was basically, "we're working here until the government says otherwise." The government then said, people should work from home where possible yesterday evening before we finished up for the day, we watched the press conference live in work too so nobody missed the news.

Today, I'm the only person who didn't go into work and worked from home.

I live directly across the road from a few bars and cafes, I've seen people go in and out of them all day and a lot of people just carrying on like its a regular day.

I literally don't understand the thought process of a lot of Brits right now.

Yeah, one of my best friends live in the UK. Her sister-in-law has CYSTIC FIBROSIS and took a trip to an English city this past weekend, going out to busy bars and restaurants. I could not believe it when I heard it. If she gets covid-19, she’d be in a bad way.

BluePlanet · 17-03-2020 01:20PM

otnomart wrote: »

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2020/03/17/lung-scans-covid-19-thirtysomethings-show-scary-picture/
from Belgium

Yes and people that have recovered show 20 and more percent less lung capacity.
It's unknown if their capacity will improve in time through exercise, but it's presumed it will.
They also show CT scans of 'frosted glass' throughout the lungs.

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 01:21PM

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP