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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #5042
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Yeh. Ours isnt to far ahead imo.

    They are taking the advise of their medical experts. They are saying schools wont have much of an impact on the spread. What have we done apart from hit the easy targets like pubs and schools thats way above what the brits havent done?

    The pubs wouldn't have been touched if not for that footage and bad publicity, or at least allowed to trade for a bit longer.


  • #5043
    careless sherpa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    EDit wrote: »
    I thought they’d given up contact tracing as it is not worthwhile once you have over a certain number of cases?

    I think contact tracing is only a token gesture. Take the cases in cootehill where 30 fellas decided it was a good idea to go to Newcastle on a stag the weekend before last. They came back and drank for another few days in different pubs. How could they trace everyone they were in contact with. The main pub they were drinking in got a deep clean but that's about it. Someone who lives there was telling me the town virtually shut itself down as noone wanted to go near it


  • #5044
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Yeh. Ours isnt to far ahead imo.

    They are taking the advise of their medical experts. They are saying schools wont have much of an impact on the spread. What have we done apart from hit the easy targets like pubs and schools thats way above what the brits havent done?

    We are following the best advice available. It seems the WHO have a different view to you as to how we are acting. I wonder who is right.


  • #5045
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Could these people now be a very valuable resource as they can’t get it again?

    I believe reinfection is possible.

    Edit: Above is not fact. It wss a theory being put out there by researchers, but unproven. Iy is held thst suspected reinfections may have been due to an error in the initial diagnosis and recovery. There is a lot unknown.


  • #5046
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    all about the mane wrote: »
    We are following the best advice available. It seems the WHO have a different view to you as to how we are acting. I wonder who is right.

    And the british medical experts?


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  • #5047
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,719 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    The pubs wouldn't have been touched if not for that footage and bad publicity, or at least allowed to trade for a bit longer.

    I don't think that's true. It was being discussed by people I know in the trade last Thursday. They knew it was coming.


  • #5048
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Offices should be closed nationwide.

    Absolute BS whats happening. Peoole getting on public transport. Hotbed for viral transmissions.
    why just offices, factories would be way higher risk, guess never worked in one :cool:, what about medical or any emergency services that could refuse to go in as well, since they are the ones who have to face it, as we know it can get trough slighest gap in airways or stay on surfaces, so any doc, nurse in stuffed environment faces x100 times the risk even if they use all the necessary precautions, shop staff have to deal with customers, what you propose is let few save rest should battle up, as long as it suits your agenda. if everyone would be so delirious and selfish everything would of closed down by now, but theres people who know the risks and will continue to work - guess its true as long as one saves his own a$$ fck the rest mentality, seems rampant in many just waiting for everything to go down the drain.


  • #5049
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I believe reinfection is possible.

    Why? that’s not normally how a virus works


  • #5050
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I don't think that's true. It was being discussed by people I know in the trade last Thursday. They knew it was coming.

    Certainly people couldn't be trusted on Patrick's Day/night.

    They've been buying slabs of cans now for parties....


  • #5051
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    The pubs wouldn't have been touched if not for that footage and bad publicity, or at least allowed to trade for a bit longer.


    So thanks big time to the person who stopped to take footage.


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  • #5052
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    I know of two who are home from hospital fully recovered

    Did either of them need to be put on ventilators?


  • #5053
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I believe reinfection is possible.

    Based on what?


  • #5054
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    I genuinely believe the UK are trying to kill the elderly, I cannot fathom any other reason for their dithering approach

    Enough hosts to burn itself out, the ultimate game of russian roulette .....BBC ran a docu last night on the Spanish flu, 500m infected with anything up to 100m deaths worldwide .......what we're facing now is grim but no where near the same scale (as of now) ......100k infected in Manchester alone in the first 2 weeks


    There's some hope with that Malaria drug chloroquine, it has been tested in China, Taiwan and Australia with some success in both slowing the process and preventative methods


  • #5055
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    all about the mane wrote: »
    Why? that’s not normally how a virus works

    The people who were suspected of being reinfected actually just never fully recovered.

    But the misinformation about reinfection is out there now so expect to hear it repeated over and over.

    Misinformation spreads faster than facts.


  • #5056
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I don't think that's true. It was being discussed by people I know in the trade last Thursday. They knew it was coming.

    They knew it was coming, because they knew that the distance guidelines that the gov were pushing to give them the option of staying open, was not going to work.

    That bit scares me - the guidelines were never going to work so the Vintners pulled the plug themselves. The gov rowed in after the fact looking like it was their idea, but the fact is that the expert advice on that particular aspect failed.


  • #5057
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    12-24 hour wait for a test? So if I get a cough tomorrow, which could be a mild symptom, do I make contact for a test considering I won't know how mild I'll be the day after. I couldn't possibly wait until it gets worse.

    A cough is only one symptom , people can not be expected to be tested just for that.
    Simple answer yes at the moment you will have to wait to you exhibit more symptoms,why because the system will be over loaded with people otherwise.


  • #5058
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    They knew it was coming, because they knew that the distance guidelines that the gov were pushing to give them the option of staying open, was not going to work.

    That bit scares me - the guidelines were never going to work so the Vintners pulled the plug themselves. The gov rowed in after the fact looking like it was their idea, but the fact is that the expert advice on that particular aspect failed.

    Expert advice didn't fail , society failed


  • #5059
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Expert advice didn't fail , society failed

    Same thing... if I advice something that isn't going to work, I need to think again. Some parts of society will always fail... we all know that so have to take account... if we all did what was good for us, we wouldn't need laws.


  • #5060
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    tuxy wrote: »
    The people who were suspected of being reinfected actually just never fully recovered.

    But the misinformation about reinfection is out there now so expect to hear it repeated over and over.

    Misinformation spreads faster than facts.

    People need to go to proper sources of information. Some of the rubbish out there is criminal


  • #5061
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Yeh. Ours isnt to far ahead imo.

    They are taking the advise of their medical experts. They are saying schools wont have much of an impact on the spread. What have we done apart from hit the easy targets like pubs and schools thats way above what the brits havent done?

    Hitting the pubs here is absolutely huge. Go walk into your town tonight, its deserted. Lots of restaurants have just closed or doing take out only. We are as good as on lockdown 16 hours a day right now. Schools closed, colleges closed.

    You want the country to stop I get it but you'll only hurt it more in the long run. The elderly have been warned and warned to isolate.


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  • #5062
    riffmongous
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,933 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    What kind of mask? She needs goggles too, and instruction on how to use them


  • #5063
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    They knew it was coming, because they knew that the distance guidelines that the gov were pushing to give them the option of staying open, was not going to work.

    That bit scares me - the guidelines were never going to work so the Vintners pulled the plug themselves. The gov rowed in after the fact looking like it was their idea, but the fact is that the expert advice on that particular aspect failed.

    Where are you getting this stuff??


  • #5064
    Heiser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Heiser


    The travel advise from the HSE since last night is that anyone arriving into Ireland from another country should self isolate. I cut our holiday short to get home from kenya and got in yesterday morning and the advise from the HSE at the time in the airport was to only self isolate if we had symptoms.

    I think we should self isolate, partner thinks we're ok as there's no detected corona in Kenya, we were hardly in contact with anyone while over there and the planes home were empty. Her work are saying as we got in before the updated travel advisory she should report to work as normal if there's no symptoms. Is this madness or am I being over the top?


  • #5065
    Thingymebob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Thingymebob


    We were in a Spar yesterday when the Gardaí came in and told the staff no sales of alcohol until 4pm today.

    A friend of ours plastered the photos of their house parties all over Facebook, both Friday and Saturday nights. They’re in their late thirties, married with four kids, ones a nurse, the other works for the council. You’d hope they’d have the cop on, but since some people cant be hit with the common sense stick, the government is going to have move past ‘urging people’ and ‘advising people’, and start increasing restrictions.


  • #5066
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Heiser wrote: »
    The travel advise from the HSE since last night is that anyone arriving into Ireland from another country should self isolate. I cut our holiday short to get home from kenya and got in yesterday morning and the advise from the HSE at the time in the airport was to only self isolate if we had symptoms.

    I think we should self isolate, partner thinks we're ok as there's no detected corona in Kenya, we were hardly in contact with anyone while over there and the planes home were empty. Her work are saying as we got in before the updated travel advisory she should report to work as normal if there's no symptoms. Is this madness or am I being over the top?

    I'm in a similar boat. Got back from Hungary on Sunday and due to go to work tomorrow. Not sure what to do.


  • #5067
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.salzburg24.at/news/oesterreich/coronavirus-patientin-48-stirbt-in-wien-84970558
    48 year old woman in Austria dies at home while self quarantining


  • #5068
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I believe reinfection is possible.

    What would you say that :mad:

    Give us the medical proof.


  • #5069
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    A guy I know who got it over 10 days ago is still in hospital, had breathing difficulties and was put on a ventilator.

    He's 27 and very athletic, which scares the **** out me. Was just back from a piss up, so maybe he was run down.
    It's scary, but what type of help was he actually given G? From my reading of the Wuhan serious cases(and maybe a medical person could confirm?) around 60% were on O2, nasal canula/mask type thing, of the rest most were on non invasive high O2 flow and "only" 10% were on the full mechanical intubation or ECMO. I only mention it because a few years ago I had a relative on O2 for pneumonia(bacterial) and I mentioned ventilation to one of the docs and she explained to me in you look like a dribbling moron terms :D the differences and that my relative wasn't being "ventilated" in the way I might have thought. Before her explanation if anyone had asked me I would have likely said they were.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #5070
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Heiser wrote: »
    The travel advise from the HSE since last night is that anyone arriving into Ireland from another country should self isolate. I cut our holiday short to get home from kenya and got in yesterday morning and the advise from the HSE at the time in the airport was to only self isolate if we had symptoms.

    I think we should self isolate, partner thinks we're ok as there's no detected corona in Kenya, we were hardly in contact with anyone while over there and the planes home were empty. Her work are saying as we got in before the updated travel advisory she should report to work as normal if there's no symptoms. Is this madness or am I being over the top?

    I just arrived today and they were telling absolutely everyone arriving to self-isolate, regardless of where you came from.

    I think you should.


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  • #5071
    The Hound Gone Wild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭The Hound Gone Wild


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    To be fair of course a pharmacist would be raging over that. They make a tonne of money selling the stuff.

    What's the profit margin on a box of nurofen? Do you think pharmacists are sales people?


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