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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #4982
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    340,000 on the dole by the end of the week between bars restaurants and retail

    and that's before it hits construction and factories

    mother of god this is a disaster:(

    Yep. If the virus doesn't get us the recession/depression will.


  • #4983
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Italy implemented lockdown measures before Spain though? Or perhaps not
    Yeah they did. Think the Spanish one is only about 5 days old.


  • #4984
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    biko wrote: »
    ‘Not a single EU country’ responded to Italian plea for help with coronavirus
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/not-a-single-eu-country-responded-to-italian-plea-for-help-with-coronavirus

    If that's true, the EU is finished in Italy. How can you stay in a club that did not help you in your hour of need.


  • #4985
    Nibs05
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Nibs05


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    340,000 on the dole by the end of the week between bars restaurants and retail

    and that's before it hits construction and factories

    mother of god this is a disaster:(
    Hopefully temporary, we will need these services again in a few months. I’d like to see a temporary stop to mortgages, utility bills


  • #4986
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Preppers are regarded as insane and selfish.

    That i would offer is an oxymoron.

    Someone who prepares themselves in a strategic way before a crisis presents itself so that they may support themselves rather than burden the inevitably overwhelmed system that is in crisis cannot be insane or selfish.


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  • #4987
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    theteal wrote: »
    Nonsense indeed, then every ventilated ICU patient would be in prone position. That doesn't even make sense. In cases where paralysis doesn't work and arterial blood gasses are not improving then the patients go in the prone position. Prone is a last resort as nothing else is working. This is not NICU.

    Prone positioning is part of a standard procedure for someone in critical care that has covid 19 .... It is not a last resort if all else fails measure ....
    Management of severe COVID-19 is not different from management of most viral pneumonia causing respiratory failure (Figure). The principal feature of patients with severe disease is the development of ARDS: a syndrome characterized by acute onset of hypoxemic respiratory failure with bilateral infiltrates. Evidence-based treatment guidelines for ARDS should be followed, including conservative fluid strategies for patients without shock following initial resuscitation, empirical early antibiotics for suspected bacterial co-infection until a specific diagnosis is made, lung-protective ventilation, prone positioning, and consideration of extracorporeal membrane oxygenation for refractory hypoxemia.5

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762996


  • #4988
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    Any word how many of the 223 cases have been hospitalised? Or are the majority just self isolating at home.


  • #4989
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Yesterday Simon Harris announced that there will be a recruitment drive today, does anyone know the website where the jobs will be posted?

    Normally publicjobs.ie

    Not sure if it will be used in this case but that would be the first place I would look


  • #4990
    at1withmyself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭at1withmyself


    Anyone coming back from an effected country should self isolate for 2 weeks, your colleague shouldn't be let in the office tomorrow.
    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »
    I find work social distance hardest as I am sure most also do as this is where I spend most of my time. Am in open plan office where there are 8 desks together and a further 20 desks within walking distance, and probably a further 50 within the floor. Most people to be fair are taking everything serious but with so many in such small confined space I do think it's matter of when and not if, when somebody gets it. Also a senior member of staff flew back from Spain yesterday and is apparently coming into office tomorrow, which should be great fun!.


  • #4991
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    statesaver wrote: »
    If that's true, the EU is finished in Italy. How can you stay in a club that did not help you in your hour of need.

    The EU is not a state, every individual country has the decision to help or not help Italy.


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  • #4992
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    statesaver wrote: »
    If that's true, the EU is finished in Italy. How can you stay in a club that did not help you in your hour of need.

    The Washington Examiner!!! FFS


  • #4993
    mosii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭mosii


    Stanley Johnson on itv a few mins ago.
    wow, just wow.

    Why?


  • #4994
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Graham wrote: »
    I don't think anyone has an issue with reasonable speculation. We're all doing it.

    It would probably be a good idea to mention that you're speculating rather than posting X will happen on Y.

    Unless you're privy to some special inside information that's not available to the rest of us internet randomers.

    Well I was privy to information that wasn't in the public sphere, it did not have a date but it was expected to be announced sunday after a meeting with government but the actions Saturday night seemed to have cooled the Jets. Lesson learned there on calling a time as it wasn't stated for definite when the plan kicks in. I do still believe we will see it shortly, tbh were half way there already.


  • #4995
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Well I was privy to information that wasn't in the public sphere, it did not have a date but it was expected to be announced sunday after a meeting with government but the actions Saturday night seemed to have cooled the Jets. Lesson learned there on calling a time as it wasn't stated for definite when the plan kicks in. I do still believe we will see it shortly, tbh were half way there already.

    If I PM you can I gain access to that whatsapp group?


  • #4996
    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭BRYAN Is Ainm Dom


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Wtf is he doing going into the office after flying from Spain? Appalling arrogance and reckless behavior. He is not so important that he gets to risk the lives of staff and their families

    I know. Concerns were raised yesterday where some staff wanted clarification if staff member would be self isolation. This person is senior member so can easily work from home. 2 members of staff have said they wont be attending work because of this and I am sure more will follow if he attends work, myself included.


  • #4997
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Someone who prepares themselves in a strategic way before a crisis presents itself so that they may support themselves rather than burden the inevitably overwhelmed system that is in crisis cannot be insane or selfish.

    Unless the preparation itself overburdens and overwhelms the system causing further crisis.


  • #4998
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    statesaver wrote: »
    If that's true, the EU is finished in Italy. How can you stay in a club that did not help you in your hour of need.

    Some very selective memory of how Italy handled things there, claiming they tried to contain it yet there were still flights leaving northern italy up until a few days ago


  • #4999
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Irish engineer chipping in

    https://twitter.com/ColinJ_Keogh/status/1237865545623461891

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #5000
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »
    I know. Concerns were raised yesterday where some staff wanted clarification if staff member would be self isolation. This person is senior member so can easily work from home. 2 members of staff have said they wont be attending work because of this and I am sure more will follow if he attends work, myself included.

    Mass walkout. Make it clear this entitled bullsh1t is not to be tolerated.


  • #5001
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    BRYAN Is Ainm Dom wrote: »
    I know. Concerns were raised yesterday where some staff wanted clarification if staff member would be self isolation. This person is senior member so can easily work from home. 2 members of staff have said they wont be attending work because of this and I am sure more will follow if he attends work, myself included.
    Unless you’re making life support machines for a living a complete staff walkout would be justified if they let him come to work

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • #5002
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    banie01 wrote: »
    The UK is not covering itself in glory, nor are it's scientific advisory bodies.
    The UK scientific hub is not where I'd be directing investment were a Multinational or a source of FDI.

    1st said afaik by German Generals watching the approach of British soldiers in the teeth of machine gun fire in late 1914 or so.

    Over 100yrs later and the public school, Oxbridgers are still wreaking havoc on their Lions.

    The story breaking last night regarding the UK basing their "scientific advice" on the wrong bloody info!
    That is criminal negligence.

    https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1239669605586604032?s=19

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexwickham/coronavirus-uk-strategy-deaths

    I've never been Leo Varadkar's biggest supporter if I'm being completely honest...

    However, does anyone else feel a small bit more reassured in this particular scenario, that our country is being led by a qualified doctor... rather than our friends next door, who are being led by a... erm... qualified game show contestant??

    I'm not sure how good a doctor Leo is/would have been... but at least he should have some sort of rudimentary understanding of what the HSE will be facing over the next few weeks and months? And as such, should be well placed to make sensible decisions to help them and the country get through this!

    That's my thinking anyway... for whatever it's worth! (Although I sincerely hope the UK can get through this too, obviously!) :)


  • #5003
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    150 deaths in Spain so far this morning, they must have run out of ICU beds like in Italy


  • #5004
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    statesaver wrote: »
    If that's true, the EU is finished in Italy. How can you stay in a club that did not help you in your hour of need.

    What do you want them to do?


  • #5005
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Some very selective memory of how Italy handled things there, claiming they tried to contain it yet there were still flights leaving northern italy up until a few days ago

    Is that much different to us?. We know it's here, we know what happened there, and we are still flying.


  • #5006
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Yeh, there's still a ridiculous mountain being made out of this particular molehill though.

    He was merely clumsy in what he said and was basing his opinion on GP costs that are a factor over here, but not in England.

    He could have chosen his words better, but there's no big deal involved here really.

    No it matters, and not because of the Irish angle which is annoying but expected.
    He is a medical person and was on a show watched by millions explaining the British response. It matters that he was getting something fundamentally wrong.
    The simple narrative he was implying was that other countries were applying stringent measures because of their health systems but the UK we're not in the same position.
    I think the NHS is a wonderful and the Brits should be rightly proud but this virus will challenge British health as in every country in the world.
    It was blatant misinformation from a respected (for some) source


  • #5007
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Case confirmed at UCC anyway. Good thing they closed the colleges!

    zep1aEi.png


  • #5008
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,255 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Nibs05 wrote: »
    I’d like to see a temporary stop to mortgages, utility bills

    The issue with that idea is those bills will add up and still have to be paid. You'll still need to be putting money aside for them. If anything it might cause further stress waiting for the eventual massive bill.

    Now is the time to cut out shyte like 100 euro+ monthly sky packages, 60 quid mobile packages (if out of contract), look at all those tenner a month subscriptions (which add up rapidly), gym membership (you probably can't use anyway) etc.

    Cut back where you can. It's good advice anytime really


  • #5009
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Graham wrote: »
    Unless the preparation itself overburdens and overwhelms the system causing further crisis.

    Which generally doesn't happen when you prepare for something as its well in advance over a period of time,

    The fact that i bought a couple of 20 kg sacks of Rice at the start of feb, some tinned stuff early feb, some pasta etc late feb didn't burden any system, nothing i bought in advance was a strain anywhere.


  • #5010
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,947 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Is that much different to us?. We know it's here, we know what happened there, and we are still flying.

    But out senior EU rep isnt lying about how we tried to contain it while the facts show they let many people fly in and out while things were obviously quite bad.

    We shouldnt have let them in but this italian guy trying to blame the EU is just scapegoating.


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  • #5011
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Some very selective memory of how Italy handled things there, claiming they tried to contain it yet there were still flights leaving northern italy up until a few days ago

    Italy made a hames of it, smells of blame game.


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