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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,602 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Marje wrote: »
    Something to cheer us all up (for a short time) Penguins get a tour of their aquarium

    https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1239663996950773761

    "Smile and wave, boys!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Probably stupid question.

    Buy how easy would it be for let's say ISIS to start the virus again?

    How easy is it to pass into humans from animals?

    Isis advised its members to stay clear of europe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    rob316 wrote: »
    Ya good man take that advice because you know nothing. There is no appetite to go full lockdown

    There isn't a choice, you must still think this is the flu and everything is now rosy in china.
    At what part do you think we're in lockdown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    How would it help ISIS while defeating their enemy ?
    Yeah they'd probably kill themselves off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    How would it help ISIS while defeating their enemy ?

    Just the carnage it's causing to Europe and potentially will kill the economy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    How would it help ISIS while defeating their enemy ?

    Watch out!

    Its a suicide spreader

    aaaccchhhooooh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    I'm confused about the dutch adopting the controversial herd immunity strategy

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-dutch-adopt-controversial-herd-immunity-strategy-1.4204578

    Looking at what measures they are implementing and restricting they are not much different as here in Ireland ... What am I missing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Just the carnage it's causing to Europe and potentially will kill the economy.

    But it will kill ISIS members more as they have no ventilation equipment or medical help

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    It's an evolving situation, timelines change.

    Stating the obvious there.

    Of course things are going to change.

    The silly thing to do would be to make blind guesses about what/when and then posting those guesses as fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    On a positive note, I have been smuggling toilet rolls into Australia. For anyone interested in that lucrative market...Just wrap the bog-rolls in cocaine!


    * little bit of levity to relieve the worry ,even for a few minutes*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    TripleFacePalm.jpg

    You'd expect better from Picard. Touching his face with all of hands :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    sterz wrote: »
    Clearly everything isn't normal but what I won't do is spread lies and try to instill panic in others.

    Haven't spread any lies, anything I said was based on the known facts at that moment in time.
    "I'm not trying to scare you out of your wits, I'm trying to scare you into your wits"
    If you were listening to who said that you might be showing a bit more cop on than constantly attacking someone, like a woman throwing the same **** back at you time after time, please go annoy someone else, there's an ignore button there use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭blade1


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    I wish this 'mental health' rhetoric within this period would bugger off. It's a global pandemic and a crisis a lot of us in this country have never experienced before. It was never going to be fun, not for anyone.

    However, our past generations have experienced much worse. A generation or two back they were covering their heads every time an air raid siren went off. Look back further and they literally had no food to eat.

    But now poor Fiacra is posting about how this is mentally effecting him as he's sitting in a nice warm house surrounded by 300 toilet rolls and 100 tins of baked beans.

    I wonder if we have ever been weaker?
    Not to sound like a cnut, but I agree with the above. More than I don't anyway.

    I wonder will some types of mental health issues actually go down because of this crisis? When people have something concrete to actually worry about as opposed to the non worries of the chronically well 21st century westerner masquerading as anxiety. Rates of depression have been noted to go down in wartime and under toxic regimes.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Heiser


    The travel advise from the HSE since last night is that anyone arriving into Ireland from another country should self isolate. I cut our holiday short to get home from kenya and got in yesterday morning and the advise from the HSE at the time in the airport was to only self isolate if we had symptoms.

    I think we should self isolate, partner thinks we're ok as there's no detected corona in Kenya, we were hardly in contact with anyone while over there and the planes home were empty. Her work are saying as we got in before the updated travel advisory she should report to work as normal if there's no symptoms. Is this madness or am I being over the top?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not to sound like a cnut, but I agree with the above. More than I don't anyway.

    I wonder will some types of mental health issues actually go down because of this crisis? When people have something concrete to actually worry about as opposed to the non worries of the chronically well 21st century westerner masquerading as anxiety. Rates of depression have been noted to go down in wartime and under toxic regimes.

    Good point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not to sound like a cnut, but I agree with the above. More than I don't anyway.

    I wonder will some types of mental health issues actually go down because of this crisis? When people have something concrete to actually worry about as opposed to the non worries of the chronically well 21st century westerner masquerading as anxiety. Rates of depression have been noted to go down in wartime and under toxic regimes.

    This virus is the opposite to concrete, nobody knows anything about it, this induces anxiety

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Re the ibuprofen scaremongering - and it really was scary for people who can't take paracetamol - the WhatsApp purporting to be from Cork UH was obviously tripe but there was an article in The Guardian about French research concluding it could aggravate the virus.

    My pharmacist assured anyway that it's perfectly fine to take ibuprofen if sick with covid-19. She was raging over the rumour. If someone needed it and didn't take it because of this rubbish, their fever could really spike.

    It can be dicey for those with asthma (this is well established already) but otherwise it's perfectly fine.

    It’s not a rumour https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/health-experts-criticise-nhs-advice-to-take-ibuprofen-for-covid-19?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,374 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Funkfield wrote: »
    "Smile and wave, boys!"
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    He who has a why to live can bear almost any how. -Nietzsche


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not to sound like a cnut, but I agree with the above. More than I don't anyway.

    I wonder will some types of mental health issues actually go down because of this crisis? When people have something concrete to actually worry about as opposed to the non worries of the chronically well 21st century westerner masquerading as anxiety. Rates of depression have been noted to go down in wartime and under toxic regimes.

    It's a good point, and I have been posting about my own fears and anxiety, I saw something that really put it into perspective for me yesterday ...
    Our grandfathers were asked to go fight in world wars .... we are being asked to stay at home

    Also this helps - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyXWmr6hs7HBvJO63tHC8Lyt1KOp2pm8b


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Tests that kill viruses in vitro are great, but rarely make it through trials as being safe and effective in vivo and they take years to bring to market.

    Our best hope is an existing treatment that is already approved for use in Humans that also works on treating this virus. It can be used 'off label' with a much shorter lead in time. Hopefully we're talking months rather than years before we have good treatments, and this is why we need to delay infections now rather than do the reckless and cruel UK strategy of pursuing herd immunity (this is what they're doing regardless of what they say in public, their actions speak louder than words)

    Camistat Mesilate looks promising. It is already approved in Japan for pancreatitis. It inhibits TMPRSS2 which is used by SARS-COV2 for cell entry.

    https://neurosciencenews.com/tmprss2-coronavirus-treatment-15873/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Haven't spread any lies, anything I said was based on the known facts at that moment in time.
    "I'm not trying to scare you out of your wits, I'm trying to scare you into your wits"
    If you were listening to who said that you might be showing a bit more cop on than constantly attacking someone, like a woman throwing the same **** back at you time after time, please go annoy someone else, there's an ignore button there use it.

    Well you were stating them as fact and not citing any source, and then it transpired that what you said was just horsesh*t. So don't get tetchy when people start to pull you up on that.

    I'm well aware of the ignore button but can't let nonsense like that slide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭yogmeister


    This nonsense about getting a test is clogging the system. If you are fit and healthy, stay and home and sit it out.[/quote]

    Eh because a lot of people need a positive test to get payed from work or social welfare. Bills have to be paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not to sound like a cnut, but I agree with the above. More than I don't anyway.

    I wonder will some types of mental health issues actually go down because of this crisis? When people have something concrete to actually worry about as opposed to the non worries of the chronically well 21st century westerner masquerading as anxiety. Rates of depression have been noted to go down in wartime and under toxic regimes.

    As the old saying goes " theres nothing to worry about but worry itself"

    Or an actual one

    Happy is the man who is too busy during the day and too tired at night to worry.

    So keep busy, dig the garden, read some books, write a book. Built that bed for your 3 yr old. (Me)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He who has a why to live can bear almost any how. -Nietzsche

    Even he who doesn’t have a why must try to live through this

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    weisses wrote: »
    I'm confused about the dutch adopting the controversial herd immunity strategy

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/coronavirus-dutch-adopt-controversial-herd-immunity-strategy-1.4204578

    Looking at what measures they are implementing and restricting they are not much different as here in Ireland ... What am I missing ?

    We are also adopting the same strategy "flattening the curve" which is delaying the spread. I believe its the best way while keeping the country ticking over and not collapsing our health system.

    Spain, France, Italy and now England left it spread to much before they reversed tactic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Graham wrote: »
    Stating the obvious there.

    Of course things are going to change.

    The silly thing to do would be to make blind guesses about what/when and then posting those guesses as fact.

    From what I knew at the time I believed it to be correct, the pubs, shops, hotels all voluntarily closing changed things, anything is a guess from here on regarding timelines.

    I'm very concerned for our front line staff after seeing something last night with my own two eyes. I may be able to confirm in the next few days. The HSE need to release local data as a matter of priority and if someone has it from a shop, bar, restaurant etc they need to tell people where it is, it would be impossible to contact everyone. These people need to isolate before they show symptoms.


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