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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #4862
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The sale of wild animals for food was also banned by China for a while after SARS, but they stop caring when the world was no longer watching.

    The wet markets will be back soon, and in a decade or so we can expect something like this again, as such.

    No chance, immediate death sentence for any involved. The have lost billions and many dead, Communist party will not tolerate it and i imagine any people that were involved in the markets and still alive will flee as i have no doubt they will be killed or given huge sentences. The officials of Wuhan who covered up the virus have apparently been "punished".


  • #4863
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Nobody believes the chinese.

    I do actually. I have immense respect for them.


  • #4864
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,776 ✭✭✭threeball


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    There's actually been a significant decrease in worldwide pollution generated in the last couple of months.

    Wait til you see the impact the grounding of airlines has. It's time for a serious rethink once this is over. This is only one disaster we are facing. The next is 100 times bigger


  • #4865
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Not the 1st time either.

    Yea I was wrong about the schools as well. Smart enough to hire a nanny way before the news broke though.

    The pubs and shops voluntarily closing has delayed the imminent, that's all.


  • #4866
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Still expected, won't be anything happening before Friday. One of the Governments plans could be gone pearshaped though after what I witnessed last night. Anyway I'll keep the bollix talk to myself to keep the doubters happy.

    So it's not starting Wednesday like you stated a few days ago. Sounds like you need to reconsider forking out those membership fees to whatever national organisation.
    drunkmonkey wrote:
    Pretty much for 6 weeks starting Wednesday. Grocery, Pharmacies and Petrol stations to remain open


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  • #4867
    obi604
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,322 ✭✭✭obi604


    Holy sh1t.

    I went to ‘latest posts’ and this thread was 5th down on the list. Serious.


  • #4868
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    The water in the Venice canals is clear since the lockdown: https://twitter.com/ikaveri/status/1239660248207589383?s=21

    Forbes says 77000 lives might have been saved by the lack of air pollution in china too.

    If we could all just slow down, buy less cheap crap, travel less. Things could really improve across the board


  • #4869
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    There's actually been a significant decrease in worldwide pollution generated in the last couple of months.

    I’m not surprised , not one little bit but whatever damage we don’t do now will be done after this

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4870
    Marje
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Marje


    Something to cheer us all up (for a short time) Penguins get a tour of their aquarium

    https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1239663996950773761


  • #4871
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    threeball wrote: »
    Wait til you see the impact the grounding of airlines has. It's time for a serious rethink once this is over. This is only one disaster we are facing. The next is 100 times bigger

    And again, it requires all countries to work together. It doesn't work if only one country puts in a lot of work, if it is undone by its neighbors.

    How the world deals with Covid-19 may indicate our capacity to deal with threats like climate change.


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  • #4872
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You do realise how reliant other countries are on China for essential non-essentials,
    I know exactly what you mean H, but how you put it gave me a welcome chuckle and is nail on the head in the wider sense with it. :) "Essential non-essentials". Yup, many people's lives are up to their eyes in same. And yeah China produces most of it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #4873
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Probably stupid question.

    Buy how easy would it be for let's say ISIS to start the virus again?

    How easy is it to pass into humans from animals?


  • #4874
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,670 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Still expected, won't be anything happening before Friday. One of the Governments plans could be gone pearshaped though after what I witnessed last night. Anyway I'll keep the bollix talk to myself to keep the doubters happy.

    Ya good man take that advice because you know nothing. There is no appetite to go full lockdown


  • #4875
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Which is commonly called, by everyone else, the Corona Virus or Covid-19. His choice of terminology is just a dog whistle for his simple minded followers and isn't the slightest bit helpful.

    He's absolutely the worst type of human muck to be in the position he's in right now.


    After his comments last week I was really expecting him to start blaming Europe for it.


  • #4876
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,776 ✭✭✭threeball


    deathbomber wrote: »
    No chance, immediate death sentence for any involved. The have lost billions and many dead, Communist party will not tolerate it and i imagine any people that were involved in the markets and still alive will flee as i have no doubt they will be killed or given huge sentences. The officials of Wuhan who covered up the virus have apparently been "punished".

    Wouldn't be so sure. Wet market owners are very politically connected and their main customers are the wealthy.


  • #4877
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    sterz wrote: »
    So it's not starting Wednesday like you stated a few days ago. Sounds like you need to reconsider forking out those membership fees to whatever national organisation.

    It's been delayed that's all. It's an evolving situation, timelines change. Anyway you do nothing and expect everything to be normal, let me know how it works out for you.


  • #4878
    ihdxwz4a3pem9j
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The only people who really legitimately can go on about mental anguish are those with mortgages and household costs, who have had to shut up their businesses, or have otherwise lost their jobs. Worrying about how you are going to make ends meet is a genuine concern.

    Mental anguish is not exclusive to one single echelon in society. For example, the healthcare professionals, and other public-facing professions. We cannot go home to our elderly and sick parents. I am isolating myself from all my loved-ones indefinitely. I have colleagues whose parents have serious, life-limiting conditions, and they will not be going home. Then, there are the people who will have no visitors or contact throughout this. Inevitably, a large proportion of these people won’t have the luxury of the internet. And there are the high-risk group (people receiving cancer-related treatment, serious respiratory conditions, etc), they will be forced to grapple with the fear of their own mortality.

    Rather than police who can and cannot experience mental anguish, let us all be kind to each other. Rather than drive us apart, let us come together to fight the virus and to help each other


  • #4879
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,841 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Is it business as usual in Las Vegas?


  • #4880
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    I do actually. I have immense respect for them.

    The fact you believe the Chinese government is in itself a sign you would swallow propaganda

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4881
    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Nobody believes the chinese.

    Unless their whispers.


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  • #4882
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Is it business as usual in Las Vegas?

    No. The casinos are all closed I think


  • #4883
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't know why this is causing such a meltdown. He's an English doctor, that lives and works in England. Why should he know the ins and outs of the Irish medical system?

    He made a mistake in a comment he made. Everyone needs to get over it. It's not important.

    He should have had the sense not to comment on something he knew little or nothing about. It's alarming to think similar fools advising the UK government 'herd immunity' policy used the wrong model and vastly underestimated the consequences of their policy.

    There's a saying 'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak out and remove all doubt'.


  • #4884
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Anyway you do nothing and expect everything to be normal, let me know how it works out for you.

    Clearly everything isn't normal but what I won't do is spread lies and try to instill panic in others.


  • #4885
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    threeball wrote: »
    Wouldn't be so sure. Wet market owners are very politically connected and their main customers are the wealthy.

    Possibly but there is no way i can see that happening after this world Pandemic


  • #4886
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Which is commonly called, by everyone else, the Corona Virus or Covid-19. His choice of terminology is just a dog whistle for his simple minded followers and isn't the slightest bit helpful.

    He's absolutely the worst type of human muck to be in the position he's in right now.

    I wonder do the bats consider themselves chinese? The virus definitely doesnt


  • #4887
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Is it business as usual in Las Vegas?

    No


  • #4888
    Cypher_sounds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭Cypher_sounds


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Is it business as usual in Las Vegas?

    The lights are on and everyone is at home.


  • #4889
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Probably stupid question.

    Buy how easy would it be for let's say ISIS to start the virus again?

    How easy is it to pass into humans from animals?

    How would it help ISIS while defeating their enemy ?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4890
    Kerrydude1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    Wrex wrote: »
    So since Wuhan went into lockdown around Jan 20th and things returning back to a sort of normality, some 8 weeks later, i suppose we will be looking at mid to late May at earlies before they may look to relax things, but i say that's minimum.

    Ya I was reading they only had one case yesterday in Wuhan which is encouraging, China had 21 new cases yesterday, hopefully as you say in 8 weeks time the numbers will be well down across Europe


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  • #4891
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Some of the research, from what I've read, is also into possible treatments that can prevent it going severe but also early days on that. There's one approach in Australia, which apparently kills the virus dead in the lab but needs to get clinical trials going.

    Tests that kill viruses in vitro are great, but rarely make it through trials as being safe and effective in vivo and they take years to bring to market.

    Our best hope is an existing treatment that is already approved for use in Humans that also works on treating this virus. It can be used 'off label' with a much shorter lead in time. Hopefully we're talking months rather than years before we have good treatments, and this is why we need to delay infections now rather than do the reckless and cruel UK strategy of pursuing herd immunity (this is what they're doing regardless of what they say in public, their actions speak louder than words)

    Just looking at an announcement from British Gymnastics where they cancelled all national events, but not local ones and local gymnastics clubs are continuing to open and host competitions and events.

    "This announcement is focussed specifically on national events. Please understand, all other British Gymnastics activities continue as usual. We will continue to review our activities daily based on advice and guidance from the Government and Public Health England.”
    https://www.british-gymnastics.org/news-and-events/news/latest-news/9015-british-gymnastics-national-events-announcement-including-fig-world-cup

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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