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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #4832
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Wet markets were already illegal but not enforced i think we can rest assured these type of markets days are now numbered along with the folks who operated them, should they still be alive!

    The sale of wild animals for food was also banned by China for a while after SARS, but they stop caring when the world was no longer watching.

    The wet markets will be back soon, and in a decade or so we can expect something like this again, as such.


  • #4833
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    threeball wrote: »
    Unless you're above 60 or have unlying conditions I would say no.

    Nonsense, nobody is immune. You still have a % chance under 60. They can become a carrier easily and pass it to someone else without showing any symptoms for days.
    That kind of advice will kill people, treat everyone as infected and behave accordingly, it's the only way we have a chance of getting a handle on this.


  • #4834
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Dunne1995 wrote: »
    Nothing to suggest immunity after you've recovered. A woman in South Korea has had it twice.

    That's not uncommon for any disease. Most people will develop an immunity, a small minority won't.


  • #4835
    Pac1Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    I wish this 'mental health' rhetoric within this period would bugger off. It's a global pandemic and a crisis a lot of us in this country have never experienced before. It was never going to be fun, not for anyone.

    However, our past generations have experienced much worse. A generation or two back they were covering their heads every time an air raid siren went off. Look back further and they literally had no food to eat.

    But now poor Fiacra is posting about how this is mentally effecting him as he's sitting in a nice warm house surrounded by 300 toilet rolls and 100 tins of baked beans.

    I wonder if we have ever been weaker?


  • #4836
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    sadie1502 wrote: »
    Like the malaria tablet and the remdesivir. They sound like they are possible treatments for acute cases from what I have read. Are they being looked at in Irel
    I think they've been looking mostly at China where they have the huge numbers. As alarming as our figures may seem we probably don't really have enough cases for detailed study.


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  • #4837
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    deathbomber wrote: »
    Silly thing to say, if he said it, the Virus will eventually burn out one way or another, we should expect treatments for it quite soon and then a vaccine next year

    No touching like we used to

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4838
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Point a : Facebook
    Point b: someone posted on Facebook
    Point c: you read it on Facebook.
    Gps are not referring suspected cases to hospital.
    When you contact your go your put on a list for testing at the moment 12 to 24 hour wait.
    At the moment our health system is rolling out the largest testing scheme in the history of our country it's not going to be done in one day.

    12-24 hour wait for a test? So if I get a cough tomorrow, which could be a mild symptom, do I make contact for a test considering I won't know how mild I'll be the day after. I couldn't possibly wait until it gets worse.


  • #4839
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Jaylee Faint Rival wrote: »
    Should I be worried that my housemates in the room below me have developed a nasty cough in the past day or 2?

    Keep your distance and wash your hands

    You might not know that you have an underlying condition.


  • #4840
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,717 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Well it is the Chinese virus.

    Which is commonly called, by everyone else, the Corona Virus or Covid-19. His choice of terminology is just a dog whistle for his simple minded followers and isn't the slightest bit helpful.

    He's absolutely the worst type of human muck to be in the position he's in right now.


  • #4841
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Dunne1995 wrote: »
    Nothing to suggest immunity after you've recovered. A woman in South Korea has had it twice.

    There is everything to suggest most people have immunity after recovery for at least several years. The re-infection stories are almost certainly people who tested as recovered before the virus completely cleared their system as the viral load hangs about at very low levels for several weeks after physical recovery, similar to viruses like Epstein Barr. Or cases where the patient was immunocompromised and can't maintain antibodies.


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  • #4842
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    The water in the Venice canals is clear since the lockdown: https://twitter.com/ikaveri/status/1239660248207589383?s=21


  • #4843
    padz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭padz


    padz wrote: »
    i had double pneumonia and its one of the symptoms, basically very chesty steam n herbal teas with hot lemon, aches n pains weakness, wheezing, often going to bed clear n sleeping not to great, waking up chesty and getting all the mucus up using the above, took two weeks for it to clear also i was able to vist the local gym steam room which isint available now

    https://people.com/health/georgia-man-with-coronavirus-has-double-pneumonia-but-improving-daily/

    forgot to say i kept my mood up, some rocking tunes and that, dancing around when you have your shower, get the blood flowing, i personally think isolating is detrimental for a lot of people, today is paddys day weve a beautiful country still, its never been in our character to shriek into ourselves even during the famine people still danced and sang


  • #4844
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    I wish this 'mental health' rhetoric within this period would bugger off.

    The only people who really legitimately can go on about mental anguish are those with mortgages and household costs, who have had to shut up their businesses, or have otherwise lost their jobs. Worrying about how you are going to make ends meet is a genuine concern.


  • #4845
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    I wish this 'mental health' rhetoric within this period would bugger off. It's a global pandemic and a crisis a lot of us in this country have never experienced before. It was never going to be fun, not for anyone.

    However, our past generations have experienced much worse. A generation or two back they were covering their heads every time an air raid siren went off. Look back further and they literally had no food to eat.

    But now poor Fiacra is posting about how this is mentally effecting him as he's sitting in a nice warm house surrounded by 300 toilet rolls and 100 tins of baked beans.

    I wonder if we have ever been weaker?

    What an odd post. Mental health is all relative. If someone has never experienced something like this before, it will affect them more than people who have.

    Example: A paramedic is "more" used to attending scenes of crashes so is "more tolerant" of what they see. A normal person who sees the aftermath of 1 crash, will be out more affected by it.

    Mental health is relative to an individual, their circumstances and external influences.


  • #4846
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,776 ✭✭✭threeball


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The sale of wild animals for food was also banned by China for a while after SARS, but they stop caring when the world was no longer watching.

    The wet markets will be back soon, and in a decade or so we can expect something like this again, as such.

    Not if the world refuses to trade with them. If instead we turn a blind eye then we're as much to blame as them.


  • #4847
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    sterz wrote: »
    When's this announcement or were you talking absolute bollox?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112838881&postcount=5915

    Not the 1st time either.


  • #4848
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,035 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    sterz wrote: »
    When's this announcement or were you talking absolute bollox?

    Still expected, won't be anything happening before Friday. One of the Governments plans could be gone pearshaped though after what I witnessed last night. Anyway I'll keep the bollix talk to myself to keep the doubters happy.


  • #4849
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    The water in the Venice canals is clear since the lockdown: https://twitter.com/ikaveri/status/1239660248207589383?s=21

    Man made canals are cleaner now without man, wow I’m enthused

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4850
    youreadthat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    radiotrickster wrote: »
    If you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t say it. Especially if you’re on the TV when you’re saying it.

    These corona threads would be 3 pages long...


  • #4851
    darjeeling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Nothing to suggest she has had it twice either. Like the question of immunity that is unknown but they do know that contracting other viruses confers immunity after recovery.

    They tried to give it twice to four monkeys in a lab in Beijing, and none of them could be reinfected the second time. Link.

    A study of recovering patients showed they all developed antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, including IgG, which is consistent with acquisition of long-term immunity. Link.

    Previously patients infected with the related coronavirus SARS in 2002-3 still had antibodies when tested 2 years later, suggesting they would still be immune. Link.

    The media loves a good scary anecdote, and tends to hype them up while ignoring what is the norm for 99.9% of people. I think all of these scare stories about a few individuals who tested positive in questionable circumstances after earlier being cleared are just another example of that.


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  • #4852
    wanderer 22
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,179 ✭✭✭wanderer 22


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There is a sticky at the top of the forum. Maybe they can add some scientific research sources.
    I've been looking at The Lancet, some of it open access and can get general gist of what some of the research is about. Nature is another one, otherwise just a simple search.
    Here's one from Nature.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00154-w

    At RCSI library we've made a guide pointing to reputable sources; I agree it would be useful to have a list of such resources stickied

    https://libguides.rcsi.ie/covid19


  • #4853
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    In fairness to the gob****e the Chinese government had tried to send out a propaganda message that the virus was from America.
    Oh and it was the Chinese government that said that and not just ordinary joe soaps?


  • #4854
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    Man made canals are cleaner now without man, wow I’m enthused

    There's actually been a significant decrease in worldwide pollution generated in the last couple of months.


  • #4855
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    threeball wrote: »
    Not if the world refuses to trade with them. If instead we turn a blind eye then we're as much to blame as them.

    The black market doesn’t go away !

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4856
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Nobody believes the chinese.


  • #4857
    The chan chan man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭The chan chan man


    expectationlost wrote: »
    what if pubs just stopped serving alcohol rather then closing, serving more tea/coffee and food.

    What?! Its not about the drink, its about people being in close proximity to each other..


  • #4858
    Harper Mealy Frisbee
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Harper Mealy Frisbee


    threeball wrote: »
    Not if the world refuses to trade with them. If instead we turn a blind eye then we're as much to blame as them.

    You do realise how reliant other countries are on China for essential non-essentials, never mind actually essential items like medicine/medical equipment?


  • #4859
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hobgoblin11 wrote: »
    The black market doesn’t go away !

    Are you genuinely suggesting that the most authoritarian police state outside of North Korea would not be able to police large, well established markets, that are even listed on Google maps.

    Really?


  • #4860
    Wrex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Wrex


    So since Wuhan went into lockdown around Jan 20th and things returning back to a sort of normality, some 8 weeks later, i suppose we will be looking at mid to late May at earlies before they may look to relax things, but i say that's minimum.


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  • #4861
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The only people who really legitimately can go on about mental anguish are those with mortgages and household costs, who have had to shut up their businesses, or have otherwise lost their jobs. Worrying about how you are going to make ends meet is a genuine concern.
    It takes time to process all of this and the implications for people. Some will shrug it off, knuckle down and get on with their lives. Quite a lot of others will not immediately and will do so more slowly. There will always be a group who are very fearful and as much as we might scoff and sneer at them really do need a lot of reassurance. The leadership from the top is crucial as well as the economic supports. Both of those IMO have been very good here. We will get through this! :)


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