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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #3122
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Might be a spike in deaths causing delay.

    Or he might have had something else to attend to?

    Or...?

    Or...?


  • #3123
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 26,069 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Might be a spike in deaths causing delay.

    Rumours like that are not helpful.


  • #3124
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    "French President Emmanuel Macron has ordered people to stay at home from midday Tuesday except for necessary reasons such as shopping, saying any violations of the stricter rules to battle the coronavirus would be punished.

    In a 20-minute address to the nation, he said the French had to "severely restrict movements for the next 15 days at least"

    Didn't this clown tell everyone yesterday it was OK to go out and vote?


  • #3125
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    youtube! wrote: »
    FFS!!
    He has to get to a different building. I think they were in the Dept of an Taoiseach just there and he needs to go to the DoH.


  • #3126
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Talking like we're Italy 2.0, which is silly considering we have shut down pretty darn fast compared to them.


    He's talking in the conditional sense. I do get the impression that we have moved faster than Italy in locking down quicker, but somebody posted a graph which suggested that we were just about on their trajectory and I don't think the current figures (and what they're clearly preparing us for) would suggest otherwise.


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  • #3127
    kerrycork13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭kerrycork13


    Hodors Appletart wrote: »
    you can't stop a virus without social distancing

    Social distancing will not STOP the virus just slows it


  • #3128
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Might be a spike in deaths causing delay.

    While I have no doubt that the number will be bigger tonight, the reason for the delay is that Tony Holohan has just finished a gov press conference at Government buildings and his own one will be running from the dept of health.

    He hasn't developed the skill of bi-location yet.


  • #3129
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Indeed, the flattening of the curve.

    I think fwiw that our government/advisors have handled this very well so far. We are seeing infection rates but they're not exponential like they are in Italy Spain and elsewhere. We seem to have gone for a system of slowly closing the valve as the numbers increase which will close completely in the next while and then slowly opened again. A controlled infection rate and hopefully a low death rate.


  • #3130
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭take everything


    A 30% increase daily. If that's over the next month, we're talking hundreds of thousands infections


  • #3131
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Talisman wrote: »
    It's based upon an equation.

    1 - (1 / R)

    R is the infection rate so if an infected individual is likely to infect 20 people then the equation becomes 1 - (1 / 20) -> 19/20 or 95%.

    Given that the virus is new there is limited data and the value of R is open to interpretation. If R is low (2~3) then you can get the figure that the UK is using.

    R is between 4 and 6.


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  • #3132
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    But this would be the worst case worldwide. I thought we were on top of it, not making the mistakes of others, but learning from them as to avoid such numbers.
    He's basically saying '' I'm a useless cnut''

    Not fair : he moved quickly when numbers were low but this virus is a bugger of a thing.


  • #3133
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Wrex wrote: »
    29th March is date that is quoted for things closed till. I think that date will get pushed back for some weeks after that.

    Absolutely guaranteed.


  • #3134
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,520 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorance, is aftershave /mouthwash any addition alcohol wise in helping with protection. I read that pouring mouthwash on to baby wipes is almost as good as sanitation

    Mouthwash, no, Listerine is only 25% alcohol and you need at least 60%.

    Dilute household bleach as per the CDC instructions:
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/cleaning-disinfection.html

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3135
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    take everything wrote: »
    A 30% increase daily. If that's over the next month, we're talking hundreds of thousands infections

    Yes, everyone will get it, just not in a two or three week span


  • #3136
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    kerrycork13 wrote: »
    Social distancing will not STOP the virus just slows it

    That's the plan.


  • #3137
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump acknowledged that the virus may cause a recession in the US, when asked directly when he think a recession might hit, Trump refused to offer a projection, saying projecting recessions isn't is responsibility (Trump can only project economic booms), and said he was focusing on getting rid of the problem, and that "once we do that, everything else will fall into place

    :pac:


  • #3138
    JPCN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    Akrasia wrote: »
    NK also have very little contact with the external world and very rigid border controls. I doubt they have any cases

    I think you could be right.


    Cases suspected of Covid 19... NK?

    8.58...... 1
    9.03...... O

    10.45.... 1
    11.01.... 0

    12.O9..... 1
    12.48..... 0


  • #3139
    Volthar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    antodeco wrote: »
    That's not how viruses work. They don't infect 10 million people when there's only 5 million.

    It's like saying if it take €10 out of my account, that only has €100 in it, for 30 days, I'll eventually have €300

    I know. I just tried to explain how they pulled 15k by the end of the month. It is just silly. You need to take isolation, lockdowns, infirm that won't infect anyone anymore and so on. It is more likely to drag ass for a couple of months before we reach the 15k. I hope anyway.


  • #3140
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭endainoz


    youtube! wrote: »
    FFS!!

    Calm down chief, an extra hour won't make much difference in the great scheme of things.


  • #3141
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    take everything wrote: »
    A 30% increase daily. If that's over the next month, we're talking hundreds of thousands infections

    Not necessarily.....they can only predict the initial dramatic spike with confidence but have no idea what happens when the numbers hit, say, 10k.


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  • #3142
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    SVP have been talking to energy companies and the regulator, so far:
    https://www.svp.ie/getdoc/871d3eae-f943-43bc-9ca1-1da425c8b2eb/arrangements-for-energy-customers-during-covid-19.aspx

    https://www.cru.ie/cru-announces-covid-19-customer-protection-measures-to-assist-consumers/


  • #3143
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    threeball wrote: »
    I think fwiw that our government/advisors have handled this very well so far. We are seeing infection rates but they're not exponential like they are in Italy Spain and elsewhere. We seem to have gone for a system of slowly closing the valve as the numbers increase which will close completely in the next while and then slowly opened again. A controlled infection rate and hopefully a low death rate.

    Actually the numbers are eerily similar


  • #3144
    Tootsie_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Mouthwash, no, Listerine is only 25% alcohol and you need at least 60%.

    Dilute household bleach as per the CDC instructions:
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/cleaning-disinfection.html

    For Surfaces just FYI


  • #3145
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    kerrycork13 wrote: »
    Sounds to me like Leo is saying he doesnt want to stop people from getting the virus but just to slow it down. That's why the social distancing continues.

    So his plan is to infect everyone, just slowly?


  • #3146
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Could just give out the numbers. No need to wait for press conference.


  • #3147
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Simon Coveney said that going forward 'we will be asking people coming in on flights to restrict their movements"


    What was wrong with doing that 2/3/4 weeks ago?


  • #3148
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    DJIMI TRARORE wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorance, is aftershave /mouthwash any addition alcohol wise in helping with protection. I read that pouring mouthwash on to baby wipes is almost as good as sanitation


    Is this for when you don't have access to washing your hands with soap and water?


  • #3149
    laugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Mouthwash, no, Listerine is only 25% alcohol and you need at least 60%.

    Dilute household bleach as per the CDC instructions:
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/cleaning-disinfection.html

    Don't drink it!


  • #3150
    kerrycork13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭kerrycork13


    Strazdas wrote: »
    No, he wants to stop it....he's not into that herd immunity nonsense.

    He's saying throw everything at the virus and slow it down.

    I disagree. Listen to his exact words.


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  • #3151
    hawkwing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Might be a spike in deaths causing delay.
    Might be gone to VAR


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