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what CoronaVirus precautions are your club taking?

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    #32
    GreeBo
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    There are lots of little things that could cause transmission though:
    Signing in
    Buying anything in the pro shop
    Sharing divot tools, tees, markers
    Throwing a ball back to someone
    Shared bathrooms


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    #33
    Seve OB
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    yes
    even buying jacks roll could be dangerous


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    #34
    prawnsambo
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    GreeBo wrote: »
    There are lots of little things that could cause transmission though:
    Signing in
    Buying anything in the pro shop
    Sharing divot tools, tees, markers
    Throwing a ball back to someone
    Shared bathrooms
    Just be sensible. Wash your hands before signing in and again after. Don't touch your face between those two hand washings.

    And don't do the other stuff. Handle only your own gear and don't share.

    But the thing that you absolutely shouldn't do is cough or sneeze into the open air, cover your mouth (but not with your hand).


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    #35
    HighLine
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    https://twitter.com/GUIGolf/status/1238100253687111680?s=20


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    #36
    rickis tache
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    Installed sanitizer in clubhouse....... Video of person stealing it already on social media 🀣


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    #37
    GolfNut33
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    It wont affect actual golf but I'd imagine the club/bar/restaurant will suffer greatly.


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    #38
    HighLine
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    https://www.golfnet.ie/news/golfnet/4622/statement-on-covid-19-from-gui-and-ilgu
    The Unions recognise the need for adherence to the revised guidelines as issued by the HSE today (12th March 2020) and encourage golf clubs to observe them fully.

    The restrictions (from 6pm today until Sunday 29th March) do not prevent club competitions or casual rounds of golf taking place, however we need to be cogniscant of the social nature of our game and how this element of it is impacted.

    Golf is a great sport for people generally to get out and about, exercise and enjoy fresh air. It is played in an outdoor setting where the risk of contracting COVID-19 is low.

    All golf clubs should, at this time, aim to keep their members and staff safe and well.

    As such, everyone should be keenly aware of the vulnerabilities golf clubs will face:

    -The older age profile of golf club memberships than of the general population must be borne in mind

    -Groups having close and prolonged contact should be avoided.

    -The social aspect of golf clubs should be curtailed, including limiting the potential for the following types of social interaction in accordance with the guidelines as issued today.

    -Siren starts with people congregating before and after are discouraged for the time being.

    -Prolonged near contact as may happen during Bridge nights, Choir practices and other clubhouse-based activities is to be avoided.

    -Visitors either require some form of screening or should be discouraged for the time being.

    -Society bookings where food and social interaction is involved afterwards should be limited in accordance with the latest guidance​

    -Common courtesies – handshakes and other embraces associated with the etiquette of the game – should be avoided and participants may bump elbows or fists as an alternative.

    -Social meals for groups in the clubhouse, including at inter-club matches, should be avoided

    Golf Clubs should observe the need for the following:

    -Increase social distancing through greater space between seating in the clubhouse

    -Availability of hand sanitisers

    -Regular changing of towels

    -Ask members not to come into the clubhouse with colds or any symptoms of COVID-19

    -Regular cleaning of surfaces including door handles – hourly in public places

    All golf clubs should note, act upon and continually monitor the advice and guidance issued by the Health Service Executive (Republic of Ireland) and the National Health Service and Public Health (Northern Ireland) in relation to the current coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

    It is important that we all work together, following the advice of experts, in controlling the spread of COVID-19 infection.

    This is a very fluid situation and we ask clubs to monitor the latest advice regularly.

    HSE: http://www.hse.ie

    NHS: http://www.nhs.uk or PHS https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/​

    A further statement in relation to GUI & ILGU events and meetings will be issued in due course.


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    #39
    GreeBo
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Just be sensible. Wash your hands before signing in and again after.

    While sensible, I'm not sure how practical that is.

    No harm to have some sanitiser next to the computer though...but then again you have door handles, fridges, cards...

    Back to the practice ground for me for the next 2 weeks so!


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    #40
    youcancallmeal
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    TXPTGR1 wrote: »
    This is going to put a few clubs under if it gets worse I fear, between loss of revenue when Americans stop travelling to main membership demographics for many clubs being the main at risk cohort

    Americans will generally have booked and paid for their golf trips long in advance so the likes of Old Head, Adare, Lahinch will be grand through this summer. You can be sure refunds won't be given anyway, maybe offers of rescheduling which won't be much use to the tourists. Depending on how long this pandemic goes on for and the inevitable recession there could be longer term affects though.


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    #41
    prawnsambo
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    GreeBo wrote: »
    While sensible, I'm not sure how practical that is.

    No harm to have some sanitiser next to the computer though...but then again you have door handles, fridges, cards...

    Back to the practice ground for me for the next 2 weeks so!
    Believe it or not, soap and water is the best way to break these bugs down and remove them. Alcohol is not as good and as a minimum needs to be 70% volume. Soap breaks the bond between the three parts of a virus and renders it inert. The water then washes that away. But you do have to get the soap in everywhere, hence the 20 second wash. Disinfectants are pretty ineffective, but a dilute bleach solution is good for surface cleaning.


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    #42
    Seve OB
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    for years now we do not sign in to the computer at my club.
    they guys in the pro shop do it and have the cards all ready to go when we get there. small thing, but always makes it nice and quick, but now probably a good idea other clubs could adopt with just one person using the computer.
    we do have a separate computer int he locker room of course for entering scores afterwards.

    although, all irrelevant for us at the moment as we are only on 14 holes and we don't sign in for them (even though we should IMO)


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    #43
    dan_ep82
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    It would cut down on the amount of contact by making it casual rounds only. I'm sure most just want to play golf considering the shutdown all other sectors are showing.


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    #44
    Seve OB
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    dan_ep82 wrote: »
    It would cut down on the amount of contact by making it casual rounds only. I'm sure most just want to play golf considering the shutdown all other sectors are showing.

    I think most of us play golf for the competition


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    #45
    dan_ep82
    Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭dan_ep82


    Seve OB wrote: »
    I think most of us play golf for the competition
    I prefer competitions aswell but I'll take what I can get.


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    #46
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,800 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Joint statement from GUI & ILGU in relation to coronavirus/COVID-19

    In light of the period of restriction announced yesterday by Taoiseach Leo Varadkar in relation to the outbreak of COVID-19, the GUI and ILGU have issued the following guidance for clubs:

    The Unions recognise the need for adherence to the revised guidelines as issued by the HSE today (12th March 2020) and encourage golf clubs to observe them fully.

    The restrictions (from 6pm today until Sunday 29th March) do not prevent club competitions or casual rounds of golf taking place, however we need to be cogniscant of the social nature of our game and how this element of it is impacted.

    Golf is a great sport for people generally to get out and about, exercise and enjoy fresh air. It is played in an outdoor setting where the risk of contracting COVID-19 is low.

    All golf clubs should, at this time, aim to keep their members and staff safe and well.

    As such, everyone should be keenly aware of the vulnerabilities golf clubs will face:

    - The older age profile of golf club memberships than of the general population must be borne in mind
    - Groups having close and prolonged contact should be avoided.
    -The social aspect of golf clubs should be curtailed, including limiting the potential for the following types of social interaction in accordance with the guidelines as issued today.
    -Siren starts with people congregating before and after are discouraged for the time being.
    -Prolonged near contact as may happen during Bridge nights, Choir practices and other clubhouse-based activities is to be avoided.
    -Visitors either require some form of screening or should be discouraged for the time being.
    -Society bookings where food and social interaction is involved afterwards should be limited in accordance with the latest guidance​
    -Common courtesies – handshakes and other embraces associated with the etiquette of the game – should be avoided and participants may bump elbows as an alternative.
    -Social meals for groups in the clubhouse, including at inter-club matches, should be avoided

    Golf Clubs should observe the need for the following:

    -Increase social distancing through greater space between seating in the clubhouse
    -Availability of hand sanitisers
    -Regular changing of towels
    -Ask members not to come into the clubhouse with colds or any symptoms of COVID-19
    -Regular cleaning of surfaces including door handles – hourly in public places

    All golf clubs should note, act upon and continually monitor the advice and guidance issued by the Health Service Executive (Republic of Ireland) and the National Health Service and Public Health (Northern Ireland) in relation to the current coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

    It is important that we all work together, following the advice of experts, in controlling the spread of COVID-19 infection.

    This is a very fluid situation and we ask clubs to monitor the latest advice regularly.

    HSE: http://www.hse.ie

    NHS: http://www.nhs.uk or PHS https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/​





    The information below should be read in conjunction with the general advice for golf clubs above.

    GUI & ILGU Championships & Inter-Club Tournaments

    Golf is a great sport for people generally to get out and about, exercise and enjoy fresh air. It is played in an outdoor setting where the risk of contracting COVID-19 is low.

    Despite this, the GUI and ILGU have taken some measures to reduce risk to competitors and have cancelled or postponed events that are deemed to be unnecessary gatherings during the period of restriction.

    The following events are cancelled:

    The Irish Girls' Open Stroke Play at Roganstown, from 3rd – 5th April*

    GUI National Coaching for Under 16's on 21st & 22nd March

    GUI National Coaching for Under 18's on 28th & 29th March

    All GUI regional, provincial and Leinster Pathway coaching sessions up to 29th March

    *Though this event is outside the period of restriction, as there is a significant international field it has been decided to cancel it.

    The following events are postponed:

    GUI

    All GUI Inter-Club Matches scheduled on or before 29th March

    Ulster Regional Series 22nd March at Ballyliffin

    Ireland Boys v Wales at Cardigan (Wales), from 20-21 March

    ILGU
    The ILGU have extended the deadline for preliminary matches so that they can be played outside of the period of restriction, if required, and this will be communicated to clubs shortly.

    Scratch Cup event at Woodbrook on 15th March

    All ILGU Girls' Interprovincial Panel sessions scheduled on or before March 29th

    JOINT

    Irish Colleges Match Play on 26th & 27th March at Woodbrook

    CGI
    All Golf4Girls4Life Stage 5 & 6 sessions scheduled on or before March 29th

    All Open Legacy Programme Activities on or before 29th March

    All Leaders Courses and Safeguarding Workshops organised on or before March 29th.

    The Four Nations Developments Matches (Donabate, Dublin 4-6 April) is under review (due to the international element) with all parties involved and if required a further statement will be issued.

    The ILGU will not be sending a squad to the French U21 Championship as originally planned.​

    All subsequent events remain as scheduled and will be reviewed if public health information is updated.

    Please await further information from GUI and ILGU in relation to the rescheduling of any postponed inter-club matches.



    GUI, ILGU & CGI Meetings
    All World Handicap System meetings, GUI, ILGU and Confederation of Golf in Ireland workshops from 6pm on 12th March until 29th March are postponed. We are confident that there will be time to reschedule these once restrictions have been lifted.​

    As a general precaution, GUI & ILGU committee meetings, where required will happen by tele-conference or dial-in phone service during the period of restriction.

    GUI, ILGU & CGI Offices

    GUI Headquarters and provincial branch offices will remain open to fulfil essential functions only and otherwise we are instructing staff members to work from home.​

    The ILGU offices will remain closed during this period.

    The GUI National Golf Academy will remain open as normal to the public, observing the required precautions as advised by the health authorities.

    Advice to Volunteers

    The Golfing Union of Ireland and Irish Ladies Golf Union ask that all volunteers note, act upon and continually monitor the advice and guidance issued by the Health Service Executive (Republic of Ireland) and Public Health/NHS (Northern Ireland) in relation to the current coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak.

    It is important that we all work together, following the advice of experts, in controlling the spread of COVID-19 infection.

    HSE: www.hse.ie

    NHS: www.nhs.uk or PHS https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/

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    #47
    Dtoffee
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    What about the computer ..... prime candidate for sharing germs given we have to sign in and then enter scores.


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    #48
    GolfNut33
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    Think we'll see a few clubs go to the wall from this. Massive cancellations from groups/societies from what I'm hearing.


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    #49
    prawnsambo
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    Dtoffee wrote: »
    What about the computer ..... prime candidate for sharing germs given we have to sign in and then enter scores.
    It's not hard. Wash your hands thoroughly before going in to the clubhouse. Do all the stuff you have to do and wash your hands thoroughly afterwards. There are plenty of videos showing how that's done, but the best is from the WHO.

    A British epidemiologist put it really well today: "Don't behave like you're afraid to catch it. Behave like you have it and you are afraid of passing it on".


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    #50
    Eaglebridie 32
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    Dtoffee wrote: »
    What about the computer ..... prime candidate for sharing germs given we have to sign in and then enter scores.

    Just got email from club, 4-balls & team events for next few weeks, no computer, come ready to play, wash hands, enter competition, play round , wash hands, return card, locker room not recommended, no bar or restaurant facilities available.
    Fair compromise I would think .


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    #51
    Golfhead65
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    Dtoffee wrote: »
    What about the computer ..... prime candidate for sharing germs given we have to sign in and then enter scores.

    No need for computer in majority of clubs, non qualifying, Sign in with your own pen, pay by contactless and God forbid if the wind blows hard and the flag flies out of the hole and hits you on the head hard enough to kill you, that would be terrible luck...scaremongering will kill more people than the virus...agree to leave the flag in if you're worried...


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    #52
    spacecoyote
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    My place doing something similar to Seve, no one to use computers, pro will have you signed in & give you card when you arrive


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    #53
    GreeBo
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Believe it or not, soap and water is the best way to break these bugs down and remove them. Alcohol is not as good and as a minimum needs to be 70% volume. Soap breaks the bond between the three parts of a virus and renders it inert. The water then washes that away. But you do have to get the soap in everywhere, hence the 20 second wash. Disinfectants are pretty ineffective, but a dilute bleach solution is good for surface cleaning.

    Oh I know soap and water is best, but that requires a sink and water supply. You can stick alcohol goo anywhere.


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    #54
    Ollieboy
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    We’ve done the same as most clubs:

    Remove screens and keyboard
    Closed office and all question dealt with by phone or email
    We double staff cleaning hours and given direction to target door handles, stairs, lift etc.
    Bar and restaurant staff instructed to keep furniture apart and wipe down table and chairs before next member uses them
    Also special rules on staff preparing food
    We also ask members to leave the flag in and not handle it

    Other then the above it’s full operations as usual and pro shop are practicing safe distance policy and trying to not use cash.

    The issue for a lot of clubs and thankfully it’s not a major issue for us is the loss income:

    Big drop in green fees
    No new members
    Drop in societies
    Current members dropping subs due to job losses, so lack of committed cash flow - clubs that allow monthly payment plans I’ll be concerned

    For some clubs this is there business model so it will hurt them big time.

    Other clubs that were struggling will need major help from their members or banks.

    This could and probably will lead to the closure of a few clubs like a lot of different sectors for the economy.

    And what are the GUI doing for clubs? Nothing...

    They need to beg the government for help just like the farmers and tourism industry are doing but unfortunately the people that run golf in Ireland don’t understand what clubs and members need. They are just old farts wearing jackets with egos.


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    #55
    Kingswood Rover
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    France have announced a closure on "non essential business" and measures to reduce its citizens travel. its quite possible we will follow suit as cases numbers rise. At that stage the GUI will imo instruct clubs to cease normal activities.


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    #56
    Golfhead65
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    Kingswood Rover wrote: »
    France have announced a closure on "non essential business" and measures to reduce its citizens travel. its quite possible we will follow suit as cases numbers rise. At that stage the GUI will imo instruct clubs to cease normal activities.

    All mad in your club, waiting for announcement of closure


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    #57
    Kingswood Rover
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Kingswood Rover


    Golfhead65 wrote: »
    All mad in your club, waiting for announcement of closure
    What alternative reality are you inhabiting.


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    #58
    kieran.
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    Played today casual round only thing touched was the boot of my car, my clubs, trolley and ball. Social distance observed at all times regular 4 ball.


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    #59
    downthemiddle
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    Kingswood Rover wrote: »
    What alternative reality are you inhabiting.
    Some people still don’t get it unfortunately KR.
    We are taking a mature and responsible approach to the situation. We value our members and guests and want them all to be in a position to return when this is all over.
    Our society will face huge challenges over the coming months. We have already failed the initial test looking at Cheltenham and the attitudes towards social distancing in pubs. This selfishness is the reason our country is heading towards lockdown.
    Everything we do in life carries a certain degree of risk. However when people’s behaviour unnecessarily places others at risk decisions have to be made. We have decided to minimise the risk for all members and staff by taking responsible action.
    Golf is one of the safest activities we can engage in if we take reasonable precautions. We do appear, however, to be heading rapidly towards a situation where we will have little or no social engagement.
    There will probably come a point in time where our staff will no longer be allowed into work and courses will rapidly fall into a state of disrepair. If as a society we start behaving in a more responsible manner hopefully we can avoid some of the worst case scenarios.


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    #60
    Golfgorfield
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Golfgorfield


    kieran. wrote: »
    Played today casual round only thing touched was the boot of my car, my clubs, trolley and ball. Social distance observed at all times regular 4 ball.

    What about the flag? 1 person touches that then that theory is gone. Taking a ball out of the hole is the same


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    #61
    big_drive
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Obviously nobody knows for certain but my own opinion is golf courses will be fully shut within a couple of weeks. And id agree with it
    Bit of short term pain and boredom and things might be bad with many deaths but hopefully not lengthy in terms of hobbies etc being effected, maybe less than 6 months stoppage
    Continue as is and I’d say things could cease for months if not a full year with thousands of deaths


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