Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

Lord TSC wrote: »

Lads, thought experiment.

If they announced a real lockdown on Monday, and I mean genuinely hardcore....army on the streets, road blocks between towns, zero unnecessary travel, flights cancelled, all social life engagements shut down.

What do ye think the reaction would be? Would people accept two weeks of such "hardship"?

Like with any red warning weather event most people will observe the rules and practice caution while there'll be a few headcases who either don't understand or don't like being told what they can do.

Brego888 wrote: »

I have a 2 week family holiday booked to Lanzarote leaving on Monday. No restrictions to fly there yet but they are advising against mainland Spain.
Will lose all money if we don't go.
Decisions decisions

In 2 weeks time we may not be accepting flights from Lanzarote.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

2-3 % might die but then people come immune and its back to normal

Lockdown won't stop people dyeing it'll just means people die but just more slowly , The country is lockdown for months upon months and then when it comes off lockdown the virus spikes again

England idea is basically just get it over and done with ,

I'm not saying there right but that's is there plan,

In two years time then we will know who done it correctly ,


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Sounds like the "Get Brexit Done" nonsense. There is nothing to suggest you can just "get it over and done with". If there was every country in the world would take that approach.

Brego888 wrote: »

I have a 2 week family holiday booked to Lanzarote leaving on Monday. No restrictions to fly there yet but they are advising against mainland Spain.
Will lose all money if we don't go.
Decisions decisions

If all goes well, you might have to spend months in Spain...

Boggles wrote: »

In 2 weeks time we may not be accepting flights from Lanzarote.

Am sure you'll be fine while you're there but the likelihood is you'd have to self-isolate on your return.

CrabRevolution wrote: »

The clubs aren't testing their staff and players every day. There have even been complaints (not from the clubs themselves) that football clubs haven't been given priority on the NHS testing service. They've to meet the same criteria as any other prospective patients and get in the queue.

Not for the actually virus but there looked at every morning by doctors for symptoms ,

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Then don’t go. That money is gone either way and you could get stranded there.

The money is already spent. You're not losing anything by not going.

namloc1980 wrote: »

There's early but increasing evidence that even if you "recover" from this disease it causes longer term lung damage which is more widespread than just the old and ill.

From what I gather, the long term damage would apply to those who had a bad infection and ended up in ICU. Unless you have a source otherwise for mild cases?

namloc1980 wrote: »

Sounds like the "Get Brexit Done" nonsense. There is nothing to suggest you can just "get it over and done with". If there was every country in the world would take that approach.

There is actually its the same as MERS once a huge number is infected and people have antibody's the virus will not spread as quickly ,

Its just that every other country In the world don't want to just accept lose of life probably rightly so

If you watched Boris yesterday he and his government seem willing to go down that road ,

Nobody take their temperature.
Problem solved.

facehugger99 wrote: »

My brother is off in Spain this weekend on a golfing holiday with 5 friends.

I very much doubt any of them with be self-isolating and would expect they'll all be in work next Wednesday.

Will you be avoiding him facehugger? Do you have parents in the vulnerable category?

He might be ok, but he's taking a chance and as a precaution should isolate on return.

If you have kids at home maybe get them to read this:

Message from Consultant Respiratory Paediatrician at Cork University Hospital 13 March 2020: I hope you all stay safe during this difficult time. The children will get through this no problem. Pediatric hospitals are empty in Italy at present after 3 weeks of school closure as the usual viruses stopped circulating. Remember with corona children are vectors not victims. In most epidemics, young children are the transmitters. Therefore for school closure to be effective, it’s really important that the kids aren’t mixing with other kids while out of school. They will give it to each other silently pass it on to our loved ones. What we do now will contribute to how this develops in Cork. Avoid situations that the children will interact. If the community responds to this it will shut it down more than anything we do in the hospital . From my experiences in the hospital this last week I would say that coronavirus is closer to all of us than we realise and the degrees of separation for all of us is getting narrower. I’m not that good at social media but if this could be shared as widely as possible with parents in Cork it will help.

faceman wrote: »

Jesus thats a horrifically written article.

This seems to be the salient bit:

But why the urgency, if most people survive?

Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk.

Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me.