Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) Read OP

TheMilkyPirate · 13-03-2020 11:17AM

If you think about it there are 60 million people in the UK and only 580 cases. 580 random people and 6 of them are the arsenal manager the health minister the notts forest owner and 3 Leicester players.. no way you would have that many high profile people in such a small sample size theres definitely thousands of people with it over there.

niallo27 · 13-03-2020 11:18AM

El Duda wrote: »

Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.

It might work, it's all new for everyone. It's easier isolate 10% of the population than 70 or 80% of it. People are going die either way.

Cuckoo7 · 13-03-2020 11:18AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Would you ? I haven't done that since they were really small. It's not that high either 37.7. If it weren't for Coronavirus, I wouldn't even think about the GP.

Just because usually the temp increases towards the end of the day, so i’d be a little bit worried if he already had 37.7 first thing in the morning.
But hey, I have no medical knowledge at all nor do I have children.

Gods Gift · 13-03-2020 11:18AM

Remember back to the good old days when our main concern was a fooking orange wind warning

Pitch n Putt · 13-03-2020 11:18AM

Coronavirus is here and Uk and worldwide. People are going to get infected we all know that. Most will recover some will have it and not know others will form immunity to it once they’ve had it others will get reinfected. It won’t be stopped

Schools are closed events cancelled but life has to go on. How long are people going to self isolate 2 months, 6 months a year? The amount of scaremongering is unbelievable.

You could lockdown the whole country for 6 months but it will only take one reinfection to start the cycle again.
Maybe Uk are right- let the virus take its course it’s going to do that anyway it’s unstoppable until a vaccine is found.

niallo27 · 13-03-2020 11:19AM

seenitall wrote: »

What are beastings?

Milk for calfs.

Funsterdelux · 13-03-2020 11:19AM

El Duda wrote: »

Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.

Brexit means get infected

splinter65 · 13-03-2020 11:19AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Loads of people are at home now and not congregating as would be normal. Doesn't take much to conclude that that can only be a good thing when combating a virus that's dependent on proximity.

Absolutely no effect?

I'd say your Union Jack goggles are obscuring your vision somewhat.

So when they go back to school in 2 weeks time do you expect the crisis to be over? Also, who do you think are minding the kids today?
If the kids are already incubating the virus then they are breathing it all over granny today.
The UK scientists have just tried to apply some common sense, that’s all.

Funsterdelux · 13-03-2020 11:19AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Milk for calfs.

And lambs

Its colostrum(humans/mammals) its before the milk comes in

Bayshtings!

20silkcut · 13-03-2020 11:20AM

seenitall wrote: »

What are beastings?

Milk from freshly calved cows contains antibodies for a new born calf immune system

13-03-2020 11:20AM

"What did you do during the corona virus Daddy?"

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Generally how much did people stock pile?

I bought enough for me and the family to get by for 2 months or more if we rationed it out. I mostly bought tinned and dry goods but also bought a lot of fresh food, probably too much to be honest. I've tried to freeze some of it. I'm not going to be able to freeze the stuff like milk and eggs though so some may go to waste unfortunately.

"You're a bit of an eejit Daddy"

lawred2 · 13-03-2020 11:21AM

dickdonk14 wrote: »

Milk can be frozen just pour some milk out of carton before freezing as it expands. Freezing will affect taste slightly. If freezing eggs just crack out of shell

If going to such lengths - might as well get dried or condensed milk

Cuckoo7 · 13-03-2020 11:21AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Isn't it a daily announcement? If so then 633 is over the 24 hour period.

The official numbers for the whole country are announced at 12:30 Madrid time.

tom1ie · 13-03-2020 11:22AM

ecoli3136 wrote: »

"What did you do during the corona virus Daddy?"

"You're a bit of an eejit Daddy"

That gave me a good aul laugh. Well done!

namloc1980 · 13-03-2020 11:23AM

El Duda wrote: »

Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.

This is still an emerging disease that is not fully understood. Putting faith in herd immunity sounds like complete bolloxology at this point.

caveat emptor · 13-03-2020 11:23AM

Nonoperational wrote: »

Good post. A real champ you are.

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

Coronavirus is here and Uk and worldwide. People are going to get infected we all know that. Most will recover some will have it and not know others will form immunity to it once they’ve had it others will get reinfected. It won’t be stopped

Schools are closed events cancelled but life has to go on. How long are people going to self isolate 2 months, 6 months a year? The amount of scaremongering is unbelievable.

You could lockdown the whole country for 6 months but it will only take one reinfection to start the cycle again.
Maybe Uk are right- let the virus take its course it’s going to do that anyway it’s unstoppable until a vaccine is found.

Maybe, so you go out and lick a railing.

"The scans determined that 86% of Covid-19 patients have ground-glass opacities (GGO), while 64% have mixed GGO and consolidation and 71% have vascular enlargement in the lesion.

Ground glass opacities indicate partial filling of air spaces in the lungs by exudate or transudate, as well as interstitial thickening or partial collapse of the lung alveoli.

The lesions present on the CT images were more likely to have peripheral distribution (87%) and bilateral involvement (82%). They were also more likely to be lower lung predominant (54%) and multifocal (54%).

Just over 70% of the patients were aged between 21 and 50, and 78% had fever as the onset symptom. Only five patients showed disease associated with a family outbreak.

"

https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/coronavirus-ct-scans/

ShamNNspace · 13-03-2020 11:23AM

When the dust settles and all this is over the bill will be presented to the people one way or another

13-03-2020 11:23AM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Homeostasis in these cases would be directly affected by the disease. Diabetes is a chronic disease which can 100% be managed under normal circumstances, at least to the point where it will never directly endanger the patient's life.

So what does the patient die of if the causative factor is DKA? Ketones?

Sorry. I missed your original point to the other person. I agree that DKA and HHS are complications of diabetes.

But it is still.you know, dying because of the underlying diabetes.

yourdeadwright · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

If you think about it there are 60 million people in the UK and only 580 cases. 580 random people and 6 of them are the arsenal manager the health minister the notts forest owner and 3 Leicester players.. no way you would have that many high profile people in such a small sample size theres definitely thousands of people with it over there.

Well the clubs are testing staff every days of course they will have higher rate of detection ,
Also i'd imagine thousands have it or will have it that will never even know they did,

13-03-2020 11:24AM

Nonoperational wrote: »

Spent the morning at local hospital briefing meetings. Impressive plans afoot.

Great to see the heros are still out in force here. Hope ye enjoy the milk and toilet roll.

Whatever happens with this my faith in humanity is completely gone. A bunch of rotten ***** out there. As long as they look after themselves and they can gloat on social media then all’s good.

This is so incredibly melodramatic, as are most of the reactions to the panic buying.

Blazer · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

Coronavirus is here and Uk and worldwide. People are going to get infected we all know that. Most will recover some will have it and not know others will form immunity to it once they’ve had it others will get reinfected. It won’t be stopped

Schools are closed events cancelled but life has to go on. How long are people going to self isolate 2 months, 6 months a year? The amount of scaremongering is unbelievable.

You could lockdown the whole country for 6 months but it will only take one reinfection to start the cycle again.
Maybe Uk are right- let the virus take its course it’s going to do that anyway it’s unstoppable until a vaccine is found.

Well as long as you’re ok with about 2-3% of the population dying it’s all ok then.
Good on you. That's about 120,000 people just so you know.

Boggles · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

El Duda wrote: »

Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.

When multi billion pound business are doing the right thing before Government, you know your fúcked.

Herd Immunity is 50%+ to be effective.

Basically an awful lot of people will have to die to reach that figure.

tobefrank321 · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

flynnlives wrote: »

https://connachttribune.ie/top-surgeon-proposes-isolation-hospital-in-merlin-park/

Why isnt this and other anticipatory actions being taken?

this seems quite sensible to me, yet his call will fall on deaf ears.

The inaction from this countries leadership is as usual disgraceful. There is no leadership.

Needs to be done alright. Merlin is a good option as its reasonably isolated from a city centre.

Bringing CV patients to a normal hospital is a massive risk. You'd have to isolate nurses and doctors from the rest of the hospital for example.

Sadly the Italy experience shows that nurses and doctors may have to be housed on site and not allowed home in case of infection spread.

We really aren't prepared for this, when it gets really bad.

A single hospital to deal with severe cases is a good idea. Will the HSE take it on board?

lawred2 · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

splinter65 wrote: »

So when they go back to school in 2 weeks time do you expect the crisis to be over? Also, who do you think are minding the kids today?
If the kids are already incubating the virus then they are breathing it all over granny today.
The UK scientists have just tried to apply some common sense, that’s all.

If kids are already "incubating" the virus then keeping them at home prevents sharing the virus between children who go home in the evening. Fairly basic stuff.

In a lot of cases, parents are minding children. Not sure what your point is. There's no perfect approach. But reducing social mobility is a good place to start.

Your "common sense" approach is to do nothing.

seenitall · 13-03-2020 11:24AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Milk for calfs.

Thanks! You see, contrary to Leo's wishes, every day is a school day!

otnomart · 13-03-2020 11:25AM

RandomName2 wrote: »

At the moment no country in Europe is doing a good job. Italy might be starting to get to grips with it - time will tell.

The only countries actually doing a good job are all in Asia.

Belgium goes much further than any other Country except Italy

all these measures apply till 3 April:

stop to all leisure and sport activities
closing schools, universities, restaurants and bars
non essential shops open only weekdays
essential shops (food and chemists) open weekdays and Saturdays
public transport business as usual
creches stay open

DOCARCH · 13-03-2020 11:25AM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

When the dust settles and all this is over the bill will be presented to the people one way or another

Invoice in the post to China.

murphaph · 13-03-2020 11:26AM

If the Brits persist with the herd immunity "plan" we're going to have to suspend the CTA and close the land border unless NI chooses a saner path quickly.

murphaph · 13-03-2020 11:27AM

otnomart wrote: »

Belgium goes much further than any other Country except Italy

all these measures apply till 3 April:

stop to all leisure and sport activities

closing schools, universities, restaurants and bars

non essential shops open only weekdays

essential shops (food and chemists) open weekdays and Saturdays

public transport business as usual

creches stay open

We'll be doing these things in a couple of weeks.

tobefrank321 · 13-03-2020 11:27AM

ShamNNspace wrote: »

When the dust settles and all this is over the bill will be presented to the people one way or another

When the dust settles on this, we will all have to pay more tax. Its time to end the low tax model and fund public services properly. In the run up to the election Fine Gael were looking to cut taxes. Craziness.

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Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) Read OP