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Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

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  • #7802
    Whiplashy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Generally how much did people stock pile?

    I bought enough for me and the family to get by for 2 months or more if we rationed it out. I mostly bought tinned and dry goods but also bought a lot of fresh food, probably too much to be honest. I've tried to freeze some of it. I'm not going to be able to freeze the stuff like milk and eggs though so some may go to waste unfortunately.

    We only stockpiled enough for 2 weeks and everyone in the house is considered high risk! You can freeze your milk if you have room in the freezer.


  • #7803
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Steve F wrote: »
    Direct quote from the article

    "As of now, there is no timeline as to when it could be ready for human use"

    Correct - what's your point? A vaccine at this point of development is very positive news, if it is true.

    A vaccine is a when, not an if and we can reduce death and serious injury by behaving well over the next while.


  • #7804
    hblock21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭hblock21


    Yurt! wrote: »
    Probably asked and answered already, but are most people dying from the secondary infection of pneumonia or the virus itself?

    No, the virus itself. If they hadnt caught it maybe they would have lived or lived longer


  • #7805
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Boggles wrote: »
    Put in freezer?

    :confused:

    No.

    If you put it in its original carton it will just expand and burst.


  • #7806
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Absolutely, UK is following the advice of its Chief Medical and Scientific officers.

    Ireland is more concerned with placating the social-media doom merchants by being seen to be doing something. Closing the schools is likely to have absolutely no effect.

    Loads of people are at home now and not congregating as would be normal. Doesn't take much to conclude that that can only be a good thing when combating a virus that's dependent on proximity.

    Absolutely no effect?

    I'd say your Union Jack goggles are obscuring your vision somewhat.


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  • #7807
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Whiplashy wrote: »
    We only stockpiled enough for 2 weeks and everyone in the house is considered high risk! You can freeze your milk if you have room in the freezer.

    There is no need to stockpile!


  • #7808
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    their 'non control' is affecting us in the ROI, but this remains to be seen.

    Their 'no control' affects us immediately. We could elimainate the virus totally in a couple of weeks, but if the UK is not determined to also get rid of its outbreak, we will get reinfected. Restricting travel and placing quarantine on people coming here from the UK does not sound feasible to be honest.
    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    A couple of weeks ago we exported Northern Irelands 1st Coronavirus victim from Italy (via Dublin airport) to Northern Ireland, some might argue that we were a bit lax at that time, although it probably was too early in the outbreak to know.

    It wasn't too early. It was clear there was a serious outbreak in Italy at that time. Some sort of restrictions on travel from both Italy and parts of China needed to be put in place at that time.
    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Boris Johnson's top advisors have made a decision and Boris has reacted accordingly, Leo Varadkar has also acted upon his best medical advisors, so we have two trains of thought from different experts, all of whom want to stop the spread of Covid-19.
    Hamsterchops wrote: »

    Don't start blaming "The Brits".

    I totally agree about this. The usual jingoistic reactionary attitude is not appropriate. Nor is the issue exclusive to the UK! While we have unrestricted movement to Ireland from countries that have no intention of eliminating the outbreak, such as Spain, France, and Germany, then there will be no way for us to permanently eliminate the disease.

    And make no mistake, it is perfectly possible to eliminate the disease. East Asia is almost disease free already, despite that being the part of the globe that the outbreak originated.


  • #7809
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,388 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Oh for fvck sake!!!

    https://twitter.com/StoppedClock1/status/1238405823354765314
    That person is gonna lose their mind when they see stills from how busy it was in that pub last night!


  • #7810
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    No.

    If you put it in its original carton it will just expand and burst.

    I freeze beastings here all the time in plastic containers no problem. Glass would burst obviously


  • #7811
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    It's been a while since I've heard of anybody 'dying' from diabetes.

    What about Diabetic ketoacidosis and hyperosmolar hyperglycemic state?


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  • #7812
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Spent the morning at local hospital briefing meetings. Impressive plans afoot.

    Great to see the heros are still out in force here. Hope ye enjoy the milk and toilet roll.

    Whatever happens with this my faith in humanity is completely gone. A bunch of rotten ***** out there. As long as they look after themselves and they can gloat on social media then all’s good.


  • #7813
    Cuckoo7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    You see if I go by the HSE website - there is no need to contact GP.
    It’s probably just a cold, but I would probably, in normal circumstances, call my GP anyway if my kid had a temperature first thing in the morning.


  • #7814
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    You see if I go by the HSE website - there is no need to contact GP.

    Logical conclusion of such advice is to go away and die. Do a national service and don't add to the tally.

    #china


  • #7815
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Logical conclusion of such advice is to go away and die. Do a national service and don't add to the tally.

    #china

    Good post. A real champ you are.


  • #7816
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    No.

    If you put it in its original carton it will just expand and burst.

    Depends on how much flexibility the packet has.

    The paper packets would probably be okay.

    A jug would work well, provided you have a flat surface.


  • #7817
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Utterly fails as they think people will self isolate.

    So what would you do then? What would your plan be?


  • #7818
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    +633 in cases in spain today .... only 11.10 AM ....


  • #7819
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    I wonder is it alot worse when u see Hanks Trudeau's wife and soccer players contracting it or have they the wealth to test quickly

    These are well travelled people. I suspect a lot of them are picking it up at airports. They should be deep cleaning Dublin airport once a day. And wiping hand rails etc regularly as was done in China and South Korea. Personally I'd wear gloves if going through Dublin Airport.


  • #7820
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Cuckoo7 wrote: »
    It’s probably just a cold, but I would probably, in normal circumstances, call my GP anyway if my kid had a temperature first thing in the morning.

    Would you ? I haven't done that since they were really small. It's not that high either 37.7. If it weren't for Coronavirus, I wouldn't even think about the GP.


  • #7821
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    Spent the morning at local hospital briefing meetings. Impressive plans afoot.

    Great to see the heros are still out in force here. Hope ye enjoy the milk and toilet roll.

    Whatever happens with this my faith in humanity is completely gone. A bunch of rotten ***** out there. As long as they look after themselves and they can gloat on social media then all’s good.

    And you’re only realizing this now? As long as humans have been around they’ve been like this.
    Grow up child.


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  • #7822
    El Duda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭El Duda


    Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

    It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.


  • #7823
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What about Diabetic ketoacidosis and hyperosmolar hyperglycemic state?

    Homeostasis in these cases would be directly affected by the disease. Diabetes is a chronic disease which can 100% be managed under normal circumstances, at least to the point where it will never directly endanger the patient's life.


  • #7824
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    +633 in cases in spain today .... only 11.10 AM ....

    But it's not surprising to see it rise in all these countries (including ourselves) considering that it's obviously spreading combined with more tests being carried out.


  • #7825
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    +633 in cases in spain today .... only 11.10 AM ....

    Isn't it a daily announcement? If so then 633 is over the 24 hour period.


  • #7826
    boars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭boars


    So it has aerosol transmission… No wonder the Chinese couldn't contain it.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1

    the above is not peer-reviewed (yet).


  • #7827
    dickdonk14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 ✭dickdonk14


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Generally how much did people stock pile?

    I bought enough for me and the family to get by for 2 months or more if we rationed it out. I mostly bought tinned and dry goods but also bought a lot of fresh food, probably too much to be honest. I've tried to freeze some of it. I'm not going to be able to freeze the stuff like milk and eggs though so some may go to waste unfortunately.
    Milk can be frozen just pour some milk out of carton before freezing as it expands. Freezing will affect taste slightly. If freezing eggs just crack out of shell


  • #7828
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    El Duda wrote: »
    Really concerned about our UK response to this. They are encouraging the spread of it to create a hive immunity to prevent a second spike in winter to minimilise its overall impact. We're the only affected country going down this route.

    It really feels like the economy is being put before the people.

    Well surely that can't be ... Brexit put people firmly before the economy.


  • #7829
    venusdoom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭venusdoom


    joe40 wrote:
    Would there have been an argument to keep creches open, and also schools for the leaving certs only,


    I really don't think so when it come to creches. As a former Early childhood worker, I know no matter how many times the staff clean and sterilise, sickness and viruses spread like wildfire in a creche setting. I myself picked up something from the creche in my last pregnancy which was very dangerous to my unborn child . Think of all the kids that are sneezing, spewing everywhere, babies crawling around teething and drooling on toys and then other children picking up that same toy. As well, a lot of grandparents do the creche pick ups. I've said this in another thread, but I'm glad they've closed them along with the schools.


  • #7830
    seenitall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    I freeze beastings here all the time in plastic containers no problem. Glass would burst obviously

    What are beastings?


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  • #7831
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    Good post. A real champ you are.

    Thanks. Its hard going against the heard. You get punished socially. Before and after the fact.

    If one person listened then I'm happy.


    Here's a link to my first post 9 days ago. Little did they know.......

    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Really think we need to start taking it seriously. Anybody with a cursory understanding of statistics, probability and flight patterns could see cases being imported from Italy. On any given day there is on average ~10 direct flights from the affected regions in Italy. The cases we are seeking now are from last week. The number of cases in Italy has grown exponentially in the mean time. So the probability of more cases being imported has also increased and we will see more in coming days.

    We are not being given a full picture for a very good reason. Panic is a bigger danger to society. That means some families will have to take the hit for the greater good. I don't want to be one of those families.

    It's not the flu. Although look at the wikipedia page on 1918 Spanish flu for understanding of what happens during pandemic. If you are really arsed look at the sources referenced to dispel any thoughts that it's bull****.

    In lombardy in Italy where first clusters recorded in Italy ~50% of those who tested positive ARE hospitalised. ~7% are in intensive care. They are testing like crazy. WHO said most western countries do not have the resources / training /will to mount a response like china did. We simply don't have enough mechanincal respirators to cope. Very soon Italy won't cope.

    There is a lag on transmission that is lulling people in to false sense of security. There is also concerted effort to put business before health of nation.


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