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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 KCross
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    Anyone with any sort of machinery, cattle milking, anything like that, would generally have 3 phase.

    That wouldnt be true of farmers. By their nature most farms are rural and hence connection costs for 3ph are prohibitive. Im sure some have it but it would be a small minority.

    The milking machine(and coolers) would generally be the biggest electric draw on a farm and they can run on single phase fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,298 Lumen
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    Spotted a LHD Ligier Nova today.

    Crazy little thing! Out of town it was being driven in the gutter as if it were a bicycle. :pac:

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,271 liamog
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    UK has removed BIK on EV's and removed the luxury >£40k tax. Means there should be strong sales there for the next few years, and hopefully some import bargains in around 2 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ELM327
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 Round Cable
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    liamog wrote: »
    UK has removed BIK on EV's and removed the luxury >£40k tax. Means there should be strong sales there for the next few years, and hopefully some import bargains in around 2 years.

    By that stage though, importing from the UK, will mean importing from outside the EU. So this will see more complications and VAT payment required.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ELM327
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    By that stage though, importing from the UK, will mean importing from outside the EU. So this will see more complications and VAT payment required.
    Can I have the lotto numbers for next week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 unkel
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    ELM327 wrote: »

    That means a lot of SR+ and LR Model 3 will be sold, but not so much the Performance. Still good news for prospective EV buyers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 KCross
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    unkel wrote: »
    That means a lot of SR+ and LR Model 3 will be sold, but not so much the Performance. Still good news for prospective EV buyers.

    I think it excludes the LR as well. The price in the UK for the LR is £47990 after the £3500 grant, so it is technically above £50k RRP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,220 ELM327
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    KCross wrote: »
    I think it excludes the LR as well. The price in the UK for the LR is £47990 after the £3500 grant, so it is technically above £50k RRP
    I'd say there will be a price change by Tesla for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 KCross
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    I'd say there will be a price change by Tesla for that

    True, for the sake of £1500 it would open up a few more sales. Having said that, their grant isnt massive anyway (£3500) so its not likely to affect sales that much for someone who is spending £50k... relative to our €10k grant/relief!


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,842 Mickeroo
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    KCross wrote: »
    True, for the sake of £1500 it would open up a few more sales. Having said that, their grant isnt massive anyway... £3500... relative to our €10k!

    Technically our grant is only 5k though aint it as the other 5k is a VRT rebate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 KCross
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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Technically our grant is only 5k though aint it as the other 5k is a VRT rebate?

    Same difference really.... its €10k off the price to the consumer.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,842 Mickeroo
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    KCross wrote: »
    Same difference really.... its €10k off the price to the consumer.

    Do we see the benefit in the on the road price here compared to the UK though?


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    KCross wrote: »
    I think it excludes the LR as well. The price in the UK for the LR is £47990 after the £3500 grant, so it is technically above £50k RRP

    Good point. Will lead to the same result as in the Netherlands - vast majority of company car Tesla Model 3 will be the SR+

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 MJohnston
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    Boy am I glad to have an EV right now, how long do you reckon before people are panic buying petrol/diesel?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,842 Mickeroo
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    MJohnston wrote: »
    Boy am I glad to have an EV right now, how long do you reckon before people are panic buying petrol/diesel?

    I don't think that will be a thing really, people will be travelling less so if anything fuel sales will go down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 MJohnston
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    You’re thinking about that too rationally! There’s no reason for people to be panic buying most of the stuff they are, but they’re doing it anyway. If people knew there was a big snowfall on the way, they’d be filling up, and I think they’re behaving much the same in this case. Let’s see though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,282 AndyBoBandy
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    Things would have to get fairly biblical for things like food & fuel to go into short supply.

    A Farmer out picking his carrots or potatoes is in no danger of being prohibited by the coronavirus. Granted there will be packaging & distribution involved in getting those carrots and potatoes to your local shop, but things like that will not stop. At worst case additional protocol will be put in place to mitigate against the spread, but these sort of things will not stop.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,842 Mickeroo
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    MJohnston wrote: »
    You’re thinking about that too rationally! There’s no reason for people to be panic buying most of the stuff they are, but they’re doing it anyway. If people knew there was a big snowfall on the way, they’d be filling up, and I think they’re behaving much the same in this case. Let’s see though!

    Fair point, I have a bad habit of giving people too much credit and forget a large portion of the population revert to making rash illogical decisions based on fear like some kind of animal when there's a public holiday much less a genuine crisis facing the country :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 Round Cable
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    ELM327 wrote: »
    Can I have the lotto numbers for next week?

    4, 12, 31, 34, 39, 41

    Best of luck :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,579 Idbatterim
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    4, 12, 31, 34, 39, 41

    Best of luck :P
    I'd really laugh if they came out and no one picked them! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 MJohnston
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    Idbatterim wrote: »

    Good placement of points there. Should suit pretty much everyone, unlike ESB's positioning.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,101 The Black Oil
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    Heard a Hyundai radio ad. It included a line about self-charging hybrids. A little dig at Toyota? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,350 KCross
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    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/applegreen-dropping-fuel-prices-by-up-to-10c-per-litre-987726.html

    Thats a big drop. I wonder how long that will last... depends on the Saudi's I guess.

    Will it change anyone's mind about switching to EV... maybe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,579 Idbatterim
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    it would have some impact, but people spending tens of thousands to change now, with this extra economic uncertainty, would have a far bigger impact IMO...


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    KCross wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/applegreen-dropping-fuel-prices-by-up-to-10c-per-litre-987726.html

    Thats a big drop. I wonder how long that will last... depends on the Saudi's I guess.

    Will it change anyone's mind about switching to EV... maybe!
    And whether Russia decides it wants to kill off the US frackers, they could keep the price low for many months.

    The long term low running costs of EVs will probably win out, short term could be different for people who are buying on PCPs or frequently change cars, they may not see the EV running cost benefits.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,945 slave1
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    For those looking at UK imports, just grabbed some sterling at 0.888 fx rate, best in a while

    My stuff on Adverts, mostly Tesla Pre Highland Model 3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,734 unkel
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    slave1 wrote: »
    For those looking at UK imports, just grabbed some sterling at 0.888 fx rate, best in a while

    Tell me about it. I got a very pleasant surprise when I saw how much EUR my GBP payment to Tesla cost me :)

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    Victron stuff for sale, Multiplus-II, Quattro, other inverters and batteries and usually some watches!

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