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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    spookwoman wrote: »

    This means they are not testing all admissions into hospital as a matter of safety and routine? That should be a matter of urgency and sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Boggles wrote: »
    The schools are definitely closing.

    It's just a case of when.

    I have made plans for it to happen Monday/Wednesday.

    Would be nice if there was some information share on this to give people time to plan.

    But sure, Harris is on twitter this morning trying to channel Churchill whilst simultaneously saying fúck all.

    I’m going a step further, if anybody asks I’m suggesting that I think once schools close it’s prob until September. But to keep an eye on Italy for a peak into the future. I can’t see Italy schools opening in April.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Axfrderr wrote: »
    This isn't about absolute numbers, its about making sure those numbers dont all come together, overwhelm our health system and result in decisions having to be made regarding who gets treatment and who dosen't.
    Yes, but again if that does come to pass while it most definitely will be a personal tragedy for many, it won't lead to societal collapse which I think is TH's point.

    I suspect it may well come to pass too. The Irish leadership in this is frightening in its lack.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Jesus.
    Watching trump last night saying his uncle was a scientist and a genius.
    That’s how he understands this virus so well. Doctors do be amazed at his grasp of the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Thewife


    Graces7 can we just come and pitch a tent in your garden ? Off shore islands away from mainland and somewhat isolated seems like the safest place to be right now !

    Graces7 wrote: »
    I read last week that Musgrave, who run Supervalu and another chain ,are working to ensure supply lines.
    It will be up to these firms rather than the govt. Private enterprise has more to lose in real terms. Of course. And with all the prevarications the supermarkets have had abundant warning of the dangers .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    Drumpot wrote: »
    We got this from one of our children’s schools aswell along with a copy of a letter from the government telling them to make sure to have all up to date details. Basically they are preparing schools for if they have to close

    was this a Primary or Secondary school & have you exam students?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    laurah591 wrote: »
    was this a Primary or Secondary school & have you exam students?

    Primary schools.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Denmark, a similar population to us seeing an exponential rise now in cases, hundreds. Someone posted yesterday that Denmark's geography, as a peninsula, works against them with this but it can easily be those figures in a few days here.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Thewife wrote: »
    This is brilliant �� and describes them exactly !!!
    It's why that show was so bloody brilliant. It uncomfortably exposed most political thinking in the west in a very funny way. Though you'd need to add another layer of shuffling parish pump gombeen men to make it more local to Ireland.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Jesus.
    Watching trump last night saying his uncle was a scientist and a genius.
    That’s how he understands this virus so well. Doctors do be amazed at his grasp of the situation.

    He didn't know the flu killed people, turns out his grandfather died because of the flu.

    They need to section him, he is little more than a wild ranting and raving conspiracy theorist who is going to get a shít load of people killed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I read last week that Musgrave, who run Supervalu and another chain ,are working to ensure supply lines.
    It will be up to these firms rather than the govt. Private enterprise has more to lose in real terms. Of course. And with all the prevarications the supermarkets have had abundant warning of the dangers .

    I spoke with a friend whose wife works for musgraves and they have supposedly ordered 5 months supply of pasta.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Thewife wrote: »
    Graces7 can we just come and pitch a tent in your garden ? Off shore islands away from mainland and somewhat isolated seems like the safest place to be right now !

    Nothing but bad storms on that island. You'd be safer with the virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭VanHalen


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I’m going a step further, if anybody asks I’m suggesting that I think once schools close it’s prob until September. But to keep an eye on Italy for a peak into the future. I can’t see Italy schools opening in April.

    https://www.into.ie/false-reports-regarding-school-closures.html

    INTO saying the claims are false. Individual schools may make the decision but they seem to think Dept of Education will not close all schools


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Jesus.
    Watching trump last night saying his uncle was a scientist and a genius.
    That’s how he understands this virus so well. Doctors do be amazed at his grasp of the situation.
    It has really exposed how much of a huckster Trump is. Then again you could wheel in most US presidents of late and though they'd make prettier ghost written speeches I strongly suspect the upshot would be the same.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Did anybody hear the reports that the virus is far more contagious then they thought! Supposedly Chinese studies suggested that a person on a bus got the virus 4.5 metres distance away. Just as alarming was that another person was traced to getting the virus on a bus 30 minutes after the infected person got off. This is apparently one of the reasons why a mask would offer some protection!

    Also can last for days on surfaces and lasts longer on 37oC or lower so we can forget about our summer helping us out.

    Also, USA are in big trouble, most people won’t be able to afford to be tested.



    If you don’t know who is in the YouTube club watch more videos (he tells you who he is) or don’t annoy me. He’s been calling this pretty much spot on since early January and he has the credentials to discuss this better then anybody I’ve read in any of these threads.


    The virus won't be stopped by the Summer, that's a fact
    SARS and MERS were spreading in hot weathers. They were stopped through effective containment, they didn't go away by themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    VanHalen wrote: »
    https://www.into.ie/false-reports-regarding-school-closures.html

    INTO saying the claims are false. Individual schools may make the decision but they seem to think Dept of Education will not close all schools

    Sure, paddy's day wasn't cancelled til it was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Thewife


    I love a good storm ! When I’m inside looking out at it obviously 😜
    Nothing but bad storms on that island. You'd be safer with the virus


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Boggles wrote: »
    He didn't know the flu killed people, turns out his grandfather died because of the flu.

    They need to section him, he is little more than a wild ranting and raving conspiracy theorist who is going to get a shít load of people killed.
    He's the knucklehead's knucklehead made good and there are a lot of knuckleheads in the world. Dumbing down for the mob rarely loses votes or money.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    laurah591 wrote: »
    was this a Primary or Secondary school & have you exam students?

    Secondary school here
    Checks to make sure students online logins are working
    Being told to bring home all their books this Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Regarding the Italy lockdown, I'm not sure how it works exactly.

    Friend of mine is teaching in Rome at the moment. His hours have been cut in half since this all started, and is expected to teach classes remotely over Skype and spend some time in the school. As a result he cannot afford to pay his rent so he is flying home tomorrow. Not sure how he's circumventing the "lockdown".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    The virus won't be stopped by the Summer, that's a fact
    SARS and MERS were spreading in hot weathers. They were stopped through effective containment, they didn't go away by themselves

    I think that’s part of the reason why things have been ramping up. If they thought they could get away with it (summer saving us) , we’d prob be still looking at the parades going ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    The death rate on more than 70K closed cases is rising for the 3rd day in a row, now up to 6.06%
    On the other hand the % of critical cases looks inaccurate due to Iran not reporting any critical cases, unrealistic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    Axfrderr wrote: »
    This isn't about absolute numbers, its about making sure those numbers dont all come together, overwhelm our health system and result in decisions having to be made regarding who gets treatment and who dosen't.

    Absolutely agree...one death from this is too many.I was just responding to the mad max scenario being banded around. And those numbers won't come together if we keep doing whatever we can do personally, schools creches etc close, gatherings curtailed and self isolation becomes the norm. But of course we need our gov to start acting a bit faster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 industry accountant


    So my office of 20ish poeple have just been informed that a senior member of staff was on holidays in Italy in the last few days and came back into the office yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,630 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Irish people will die from this, it is inevitable.

    But for people to be quoting tens of thousands is nothing but pure scaremongering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    VanHalen wrote: »
    https://www.into.ie/false-reports-regarding-school-closures.html

    INTO saying the claims are false. Individual schools may make the decision but they seem to think Dept of Education will not close all schools

    I was actually chatting with one teacher and they think maybe the first death in Ireland might trigger it. That or when we hit a certain point. I wonder will it more be either a set number of community based cases or if it’s more the percentage of those being tested hits a certain point.


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    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Jesus.
    Watching trump last night saying his uncle was a scientist and a genius.
    That’s how he understands this virus so well. Doctors do be amazed at his grasp of the situation.


    He didn't...he didn't invoke the genius of his M.I.T. educated uncle once again did he?? I have to see this. If it was anything like the last time...

    Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.


    'My Uncle was an expert in 'X' so therefore I am too. Trump reminds me of Dale from the movie Step Brothers, unfortunately...

    Dr. Robert Doback: Dale quit college his junior year and said he wanted to join the family business.
    Nancy Huff: But you're a medical doctor ....
    Dr. Robert Doback: I told him that. He just said, "It's all about who you know, Dad."


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    The virus won't be stopped by the Summer, that's a fact
    SARS and MERS were spreading in hot weathers. They were stopped through effective containment, they didn't go away by themselves
    +1 They also stopped because they were more fatal and likely most of all because patients weren't contagious until obviously ill. Outside of Hollywood, ebola and the like will almost certainly never go worldwide pandemic because of obvious sickness and lethality. Covid-19 is not particularly aggressive, or fatal and is much more contagious which makes it so terribly dangerous.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Irish people will die from this, it is inevitable.

    But for people to be quoting tens of thousands is nothing but pure scaremongering.


    The more people get infected the more people will die, it's pure maths


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Pops_20 wrote: »
    Regarding the Italy lockdown, I'm not sure how it works exactly.

    Friend of mine is teaching in Rome at the moment. His hours have been cut in half since this all started, and is expected to teach classes remotely over Skype and spend some time in the school. As a result he cannot afford to pay his rent so he is flying home tomorrow. Not sure how he's circumventing the "lockdown".
    People who have their residence outside of Italy are allowed to repatriate.


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