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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2020/03/read-this-gittins/
    Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.

    6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.

    7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:

    8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panic
    2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great

    9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
    4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.

    10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,

    11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.

    12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.

    13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    It was on the advice of the health officials. I wonder will all those civic minded citizens stay out of the pubs on the day.

    I hope so - but is the social distancing message getting out there


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    there must be a movie being made somewhere
    this thread and its siblings would make an interesting book


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    So before I go to bed, any genuinely positive signs on how this Virus might not turn out as nasty as reported?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    nocoverart wrote: »
    So before I go to bed, any genuinely positive signs on how this Virus might not turn out as nasty as reported?

    You wake up and it's all been a bad nightmare


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    old_aussie wrote: »
    I'd luv a big number right now, in fact I might roll one up.

    Maybe not ....

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47811251

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Arrival wrote: »
    You wake up and it's all been a bad nightmare

    You wake up and there is no part VI because Beasty is ....... :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    1 of many grim elements of this is the amount of people on social media who think their experts on all of this im far from an expert myself, like all elements of life, rumours can range from been 110% correct to complete Bullsh1t so im only taking any information from official sources with any substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 WriteThings


    nocoverart wrote: »
    So before I go to bed, any genuinely positive signs on how this Virus might not turn out as nasty as reported?

    The only country that has done widespread testing and therefore caught asymptomatic and mild cases is South Korea. Case fatality rate according to their stats is <1%.

    Goodnight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    1 of many grim elements of this is the amount of people on social media who think their experts on all of this im far from an expert myself, like all elements of life, rumours can range from been 110% correct to complete Bullsh1t so im only taking any information from official sources with any substance.

    10 years ago no one knew what a tracker mortgage was either!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    LaFuton wrote: »
    there must be a movie being made somewhere
    this thread and its siblings would make an interesting book

    The movie Contagion is pretty much what is happening now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    It’s probably been linked before but The Lancet ( highly respected medical publication) outlines the reasoning of the current approach.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30567-5/fulltext


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Scotland has 4 more cases today bringing their total up to 23. (The Scotsman) I have to say the Scottish news is a lot more detailed than what we get over here, the press release people need to pull up the HSE to buck their reporting of cases. Fcuk that nonsense of East, West, North and South. And fair play to the likes of the Examiner and the Echo for breaking the Cork cases.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Arrival wrote: »
    You wake up and it's all been a bad nightmare

    Apt username I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    spookwoman wrote: »


    So does this indicate the turnaround in testing?

    Someone had suspicions about Waterford a few days ago. The rumour was that Waterford hospital was on lock-down. It wasn’t. But I was able to confirm that it was one ward that was being isolated.

    See below:
    Post:
    The Pope himself 06-03-2020, 12:21 #3774

    ”It isn't confirmed yet in Waterford, and from what I gather, it is one ward.”

    Then today: 10-03-2020
    Waterford
    See link above from Spookwoman:

    "It has emerged this evening that a male being treated at University Hospital Waterford has tested positive for Covid-19.
    WLR News understands that the man has been a patient there for several days."




    ...hmmm, that definitely took more that 24 hours. Was he tested more than once? Anyone know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,532 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Wondering why schools should close, the pupils are in the least susceptible category for contracting the virus.

    Maybe it’s the adults congregating at the school gates or something.

    No school going kids here so I might be missing something. And it’s late and I don’t want a pm.

    most pupils will be okay, but i work with many pupils that have condition such as diabetes, epilepsy, heart conditions and compromised immune systems, fair chance they wont be okay.

    Every kid in a school will then interact with other students and very likely contract the virus, then go home and spread it to their parents/grandparents who in turn will spread it to others.

    And then you have the staff in a school, teachers, SNA's, admin, cleaning, all of which are adults and susceptible to this virus and in a confined area with many students and staff. I myself am an SNA in a post primary school and am absolutely terrified of picking this up in school, and passing it to my students (most of which are immune compromised) my elderly parents (health not great) and my fiancee who has asthma and a compromised immune system.

    so no young and perfectly healthy kids are not the only ones within a school that will be affected by leaving them open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Arrival wrote: »

    I knew just by the head of him he’d nothing but bad news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    So does this indicate the turnaround in testing?

    Someone had suspicions about Waterford a few days ago. The rumour was that Waterford hospital was on lock-down. It wasn’t. But I was able to confirm that it was one ward that was being isolated.

    See below:
    Post:
    The Pope himself 06-03-2020, 12:21 #3774

    ”It isn't confirmed yet in Waterford, and from what I gather, it is one ward.”

    Then today: 10-03-2020
    Waterford


    It has emerged this evening that a male being treated at University Hospital Waterford has tested positive for Covid-19.
    WLR News understands that the man has been a patient there for several days.




    ...hmmm, that definitely took more that 24 hours. Was he tested more than once? Anyone know?

    Article says they decided to test him on the 9th


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Article says they decided to test him on the 9th
    Jeez that's not good though, he was in there a few days before that.

    It was known from the 6th that there was someone in there and that a ward was on lock down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237547821663834112

    Up over 100 new cases on yesterday's.

    What is reduced can be reversed lightning fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Paraguay do this after their second case, and what do we do?

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237530338525507590?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    The only country that has done widespread testing and therefore caught asymptomatic and mild cases is South Korea. Case fatality rate according to their stats is <1%.

    Goodnight!

    I don’t know if this post suggests taking a painkiller or having a nightcap but thanks anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Article says they decided to test him on the 9th

    Yes, the way i read that - community transmission case that did not meet crieria for testing - but as the patient has symptoms and admitted to the hospital requiring isolation - a decision was taken to test after some debate given the timeline

    Does anyone know how serious or mild his condition is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Jeez that's not good though, he was in there a few days before that.
    I know was in 4 days in ward before they tested and moved. I live just up from the hospital and loads of hospital staff live are around here. Lots of shops are few supermarkets all in walking distance......

    Word is there are a few waiting for results now and in isolation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Paraguay do this after their second case, and what do we do?

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237530338525507590?s=20

    Paraguay looking at Europe and saying our health system will not handle this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Will a death from a patient with Covid-19 or a TD getting a positive test result finally force the Government to take the appropriate action?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    laurah591 wrote: »
    Paraguay looking at Europe and saying our health system will not handle this
    Exactly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Will a death from a patient with Covid-19 or a TD getting a positive test result finally force the Government to take the appropriate action?

    Outbreak linked to a Nursing home perhaps


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