Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

fits · 10-03-2020 05:24PM

Babooshka wrote: »

Does anyone know if creches close, do people still have to pay? It's a can of worms I do not want to open by asking them right now for fear it will cause awkwardness, but I suppose the question will have to be asked soon. We have to pay when they close for Christmas, we have to pay when our kids are out sick or on holidays, as this is unprecedented I have no idea where the responsibility lies.

While I get paid I'm going to keep paying. Not a creche but a childminder.

tobefrank321 · 10-03-2020 05:24PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I agree, we need to judge and slander before we know any facts, it's the only way to get through this

There's no slander here.

But the blame also extends to the HSE who continue to advise that anyone who returns from Northern Italy doesn't need to self isolate until they display symptoms. The UK are now advising that anyone who returns from Italy should isolate.

Mistakes like this will cost lives, many lives.

Plumbthedepths · 10-03-2020 05:25PM

Babooshka wrote: »

Does anyone know if creches close, do people still have to pay? It's a can of worms I do not want to open by asking them right now for fear it will cause awkwardness, but I suppose the question will have to be asked soon. We have to pay when they close for Christmas, we have to pay when our kids are out sick or on holidays, as this is unprecedented I have no idea where the responsibility lies.

You could actually pose your questions to the crèche you use, instead of a bunch of internet radomers. Who most likely will contradict one another just for kicks and giggles.

juno10353 · 10-03-2020 05:25PM

fifth wrote: »

My asthma has been getting progressively worse with each day that goes by this week. I could go 8 months at a time without needing my inhaler usually but I've needed it twice daily so far..

Keep in mind that stress increases the likelihood of asthma attack. Reading some of the posts will not be helpful. Stay off site for few days and try to relax and stay positive.

niallo27 · 10-03-2020 05:25PM

Paddigol wrote: »

Does it?
How much?
What medication?
How do you know?

Usually when I ask specific questions like the above my post goes ignored and is buried within a few hours, so I'll go ahead and tell you what I think...

I'm guessing it doesn't.
I'm guessing you've no figures.
I'm guessing you've no details.
I'm guessing you either 'presumed'/ 'guessed'/ or just made it up.

And I'm guessing you don't work in the pharma, or any related, industry.

All we need now is for a shortage of everyday medicines like calpol because some people feel the need to scare monger.

We already have a situation where people with immune suppressant issues and the elderly can't get basic things like hand sanitizer because of selfish people stockpiling.

I think a hell of a lot of the ingredients for these medications come out of china. The good news is that the chinnese situation is improving so production will ramp up again.

givyjoe · 10-03-2020 05:26PM

Cw85 wrote: »

2-4 a day is one of the lowest in Europe if not the lowest increase per day

Cases so far, based upon extremely limited testing criteria. Again, these are cases so far, from before we took any action whatsoever. The number is only going one way, up. It's just a case of by how many and when and the numbers in two weeks (or longer) will depend upon the actions we take now.

kalkat2002 · 10-03-2020 05:26PM

Good opportunity for all those on the dole to work from home...

namloc1980 · 10-03-2020 05:26PM

No shutdown of schools for now.

Stheno · 10-03-2020 05:27PM

Nijmegen wrote: »

As we're fond of international comparisons.... Interesting take on the package of measures announced by the government:

https://twitter.com/business/status/1237323831993413632?s=20

Wow that's surprising!

mlem123 · 10-03-2020 05:27PM

fifth wrote: »

My asthma has been getting progressively worse with each day that goes by this week. I could go 8 months at a time without needing my inhaler usually but I've needed it twice daily so far..

Stress induced?

Tacitus Kilgore · 10-03-2020 05:27PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

There's no slander here.

But the blame also extends to the HSE who continue to advise that anyone who returns from Northern Italy doesn't need to self isolate until they display symptoms. The UK are now advising that anyone who returns from Italy should isolate.

Mistakes like this will cost lives, many lives.

Self centered pricks was the phrase, sorry, not quite slander - but not very nice either.

People followed the advice given at the time, they should not be derided as self-centered for this.

Stheno · 10-03-2020 05:28PM

Are we due the Italian figures at 5pm?

BLIZZARD7 · 10-03-2020 05:28PM

Xertz wrote: »

There may not be all that much experience of this specific new COVID 19 virus but there are absolutely experts on coronaviruses in general and the specifics of how they operate and spread and there are medical experts who've very good knowledge of the impacts this virus has on people.

So, yes there are experts and they should absolutely be listened to.

I agree with all of this. Original poster disputed what I was saying when I said there are no experts on Covid-19 in the context of 'some public health official in the UK is no more knowledgeable about the impact this virus will have vs the Italians or Chinese.

Of course there are experts on coronaviruses and epidemiologists, doctors etc should be listened to as well. My original point was I'm listening to the WHO and those that already have big problems rather than those who have yet to face them.

Fitz* · 10-03-2020 05:28PM

Any chance of a thread where only official announcements get posted? Might be easier to read actual updates instead of pages & pages of waffle.

ie Company X are instructing to WFH or School Y are closing for 2 weeks etc.

cherryghost · 10-03-2020 05:29PM

FitzShane wrote: »

Any chance of a thread where only official announcements get posted? Might be easier to ready actual updates instead of pages & pages of waffle.

ie Company X are instructing to WFH or School Y are closing for 2 weeks etc.

That would take a huge amount of effort to verify and keep up-to-date

Wibbs · 10-03-2020 05:29PM

Movementarian wrote: »

Very cursory google search shows that the prone or face down position can help mechanical ventilation for some patients. Do you think posting that kind of stuff helps in this situation for people viewing that article?

+1 and it shows the level of ignorance and basic bloody logic bypass of some in panic and hysteria mode. I mean if some could take two bloody seconds to actually think about something before going off on one and making the logic bypass plain for all to see. Let me join the dots here: If this position meant there was nothing to be done and it was game over, why take the effort to put patients in the bloody position in the first place? The mind boggles... actually it doesn't any more. :rolleyes::mad::(

Xertz · 10-03-2020 05:29PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

How the fcuk can you become an expert on a new virus that is still spreading and is practically new

Well, it's a bit like saying that there are no experts who can deal with a particular type of aircraft, because it's new. Or that a pastry chef would know nothing about apple pie because they have only dealt with apple tarts.

The reality of it is that the COVID 19 virus is part of a very well known and well understood family of known as coronaviruses that include the Common Cold and a whole load of human and animal viruses that cause everything from no symptoms to major problems. So a lot is understood, known and has been studied for many decades.

They are not starting from scratch with some alien virus that just landed from outer space, this thing is basically a rather more dangerous cousin of the Common Cold and has a lot in common with the more dangerous MERS and SARS

hawkelady · 10-03-2020 05:30PM

WriteThings wrote: »

Fevers below 38.9C don't need treating. Fevers above 38.9C but below 40C can be treated if the sick person is uncomfortable (children especially). Fevers below 41-42C are not dangerous, and fevers higher than 41C are very, very rare.

Fevers are just a reaction to infection and the most prevalent current thinking (based on several googlable studies) is that fevers are an adaptive mechanism of immunity that aid recovery by speeding up certain immunological reactions and should not be treated.

Each to their own, though. Plenty of info out there about it, and if your analgesic of choice happens to also reduce fever... oh well.

Definitely DO keep antipyretics on hand though, especially with kids in the house, and always do what your doc says.

You state a temp of 41-42 aren’t dangerous !! Jesus Christ. Some BS there pal ..

Babooshka · 10-03-2020 05:30PM

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Ask your creche

Do you honestly think the creches know either? who do you think they would say have to pay? Thanks for the nugget.

Plumbthedepths · 10-03-2020 05:30PM

FitzShane wrote: »

Any chance of a thread where only official announcements get posted? Might be easier to ready actual updates instead of pages & pages of waffle.

ie Company X are instructing to WFH or School Y are closing for 2 weeks etc.

Good idea far to many using these threads to scaremonger.

Utter Consternation · 10-03-2020 05:30PM

cherryghost wrote: »

That would take a huge amount of effort to verify and keep up-to-date

How is the mother in-law?

tobefrank321 · 10-03-2020 05:31PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Self centered pricks was the phrase, sorry, not quite slander - but not very nice either.

People followed the advice given at the time, they should not be derided as self-centered for this.

The advice on travel was relatively clear - essential travel only. Since when is skiing essential travel?

The advice on isolation was less clear.

So all are at fault. A complete clusterf*ck.

Mr Velo · 10-03-2020 05:31PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

No shutdown of schools for now.

No - but just got a text from our school asking pupils to be prepared (access their school email a/c and check for Google classrooms to join).

Duke of Url · 10-03-2020 05:31PM

I would think there could be 2 threads now. 1 national thread and 1 international thread

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 05:31PM

Babooshka wrote: »

Do you honestly think the creches know either? who do you think they would say have to pay? Thanks for the nugget.

Well how would boards know if your supplier doesn't know

Fitz* · 10-03-2020 05:32PM

cherryghost wrote: »

That would take a huge amount of effort to verify and keep up-to-date

Understandable. Maybe all posts have to include official sources? Such as this one.

All TCD lectures for the rest of the semester to be delivered online.
TCD & DCU have postponed spring graduation ceremonies.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0310/1121384-education-coronavirus/

Cuckoo7 · 10-03-2020 05:32PM

Any news in how the Italians are enforcing the new measures?
Is the army helping the police?

Sonic_exyouth · 10-03-2020 05:32PM

WriteThings wrote: »

Fevers below 38.9C don't need treating. Fevers above 38.9C but below 40C can be treated if the sick person is uncomfortable (children especially). Fevers below 41-42C are not dangerous, and fevers higher than 41C are very, very rare.

Fevers are just a reaction to infection and the most prevalent current thinking (based on several googlable studies) is that fevers are an adaptive mechanism of immunity that aid recovery by speeding up certain immunological reactions and should not be treated.

Each to their own, though. Plenty of info out there about it, and if your analgesic of choice happens to also reduce fever... oh well.

Definitely DO keep antipyretics on hand though, especially with kids in the house, and always do what your doc says.

Delete this - this is mental.

Hyperpyrexia is very, *very* serious.

1800_Ladladlad · 10-03-2020 05:32PM

Fitting

WriteThings · 10-03-2020 05:33PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

No shutdown of schools for now.

If the plan is to shut down from Friday, they're going to try and keep it under wraps until Friday. Because the obvious question is: "If it's serious enough to close schools, why not now?"

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP