Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

industry accountant · 10-03-2020 03:31PM

All the hate towards teachers for the time off they get.
I'm not a teacher but I don't begrudge them time off, if you're so jealous go and become one!!

namloc1980 · 10-03-2020 03:32PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Another couple of weeks paid leave for the teachers - they'll be delighted no doubt.

Hardly the time for public service bashing. Seriously.

Miike · 10-03-2020 03:32PM

Cupatae wrote: »

Ive a question... at what point does one go to get tested for coronavirus? Ive had a cough since before the outbreak, but for all i know i could be killing the nation here, ive no other symptoms.. do you get checked? do you wait for it to get worse?? do you need more than one symptom???

Theres a big hype about it but not much on what to do if you suspect you have it.

If you're worried you should contact HSELive on 1850 24 1850 for a telephone screening to determine your risk. They will advise further as required. Get well soon

gozunda · 10-03-2020 03:32PM

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

Padre_Pio · 10-03-2020 03:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They'll be able to go on another foreign holiday. Italy is lovely in Spring :eek:. They will be able to double up on their private grinds at least.

Webcams in Rome show people moving around the tourist attractions. Maybe a third as many as usual.

Tacitus Kilgore · 10-03-2020 03:34PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Italy suspends mortgages and household bills .. god love them I do t think we can even comprehend fully what’s going on over there

Household bills too? :eek:

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 03:34PM

gozunda wrote: »

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

Apparently they are leaving themselves

Naggdefy · 10-03-2020 03:34PM

I posted that Kermit.de.frog was sensationalist and jumping up and down with the figures coming from Italy etc on Friday.

I have to say over the last few days Kermit has toned down and been a great source of information. Credit where credit is due.

reg114 · 10-03-2020 03:34PM

gazzer wrote: »

So roughly a 17% increase over each of the last 2 days.

This actually is quite encouraging as the pattern in China, Italy and Iran has been a doubling of cases every 3 days there or thereabouts

namloc1980 · 10-03-2020 03:35PM

gozunda wrote: »

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

Also chucking out anyone who doesn't absolutely have to be there. Hopefully this is a change that will stay regardless of the outcome of the virus. Too many people in a&e don't need to be there.

Sierra Oscar · 10-03-2020 03:35PM

gozunda wrote: »

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

Hospitals are also actively trying to clear ED's and wards too in anticipation of a surge in demand.

People are also avoiding ED's and are only entering them as a very last resort.

Blanco100 · 10-03-2020 03:36PM

is it true about the schools? or is it just boards gossip?

Genuine query, id imagine that will play havoc with people working. Obviously public safety comes first but its a big jump and massive statement from government if true, to go from resistance to cancelling St Paddys day parade to shutting every school for 4 weeks is a big shift in stance.

Tootsie_1 · 10-03-2020 03:36PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Household bills too? :eek:

According to the Irish Times yes

Sierra Oscar · 10-03-2020 03:37PM

There's also some chatter that the Courts Service will cease all ordinary sittings from next week.

CrankyHaus · 10-03-2020 03:37PM

gozunda wrote: »

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

The Irish Times is too polite to say that plenty of hypochondriacs and other chancers clog up hospitals normally and their F-ing off now that hospitals have a higher perceived risk of infection.

alroley · 10-03-2020 03:37PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

is it true about the schools? or is it just boards gossip?

Genuine query, id imagine that will play havoc with people working. Obviously public safety comes first but its a big jump and massive statement from government if true, to go from resistance to cancelling St Paddys day parade to shutting every school for 4 weeks is a big shift in stance.

Rumours.

Fleetwoodmac · 10-03-2020 03:38PM

Cupatae wrote: »

Ive a question... at what point does one go to get tested for coronavirus? Ive had a cough since before the outbreak, but for all i know i could be killing the nation here, ive no other symptoms.. do you get checked? do you wait for it to get worse?? do you need more than one symptom???

Theres a big hype about it but not much on what to do if you suspect you have it.

Is temperature elevated? This seems to be most consistent symptom

10-03-2020 03:38PM

Will be interesting to see how Russia handles this.

wakka12 · 10-03-2020 03:39PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

is it true about the schools? or is it just boards gossip?

Genuine query, id imagine that will play havoc with people working. Obviously public safety comes first but its a big jump and massive statement from government if true, to go from resistance to cancelling St Paddys day parade to shutting every school for 4 weeks is a big shift in stance.

Well I'd say it's more than gossip, several European countries with less cases than Ireland today closed all places of education . I'm in ucd and we were told the college would most likely close soon

Mortelaro · 10-03-2020 03:39PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Fair play to them.

The potential financial issues, as a self-employed person, has me more panicked than the health issues!

The 300 a week extended to self employed is a help
But if I get sick,it would cost me 150 a day for a replacement
Self isolation isnt a big issue on its own as I work at home

Biggest issue for self employment is in a severe recession customers unable to pay
Government and banks need to be working on supports
Theres already talk of releasing them from their capital constraints so they can lend more,because we are entering territory for which that money is for

A lot of businesses may already owe a lot though
More burden

Tacitus Kilgore · 10-03-2020 03:39PM

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

According to the Irish Times yes

Hadn't seen that, quality move - snip as many reasons as they can that folks would need to leave the house for.

Without an autocratic govt in charge like China etc. this is the type of thing needed for a shutdown.

Cupatae · 10-03-2020 03:39PM

Miike wrote: »

If you're worried you should contact HSELive on 1850 24 1850 for a telephone screening to determine your risk. They will advise further as required. Get well soon

im less worried about myself now and more worried about spreading it to someone it could do real damage to, im 99% certain its just a cough but if there was a way to completely rule it out ill do it.

frillyleaf · 10-03-2020 03:39PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

ok... listening to newstalk and the presenter 'ciara'...if my view is wrong on following i'm sure i'll be corrected here.

when i turned the radio on a mother with two kids was speaking, she had a dry cough and you could clearly hear it during interview...i didnt get start of interview but the jist of it that i got was she felt fine apart from she had this dry cough.....ciara replied that she (ciara) was no health professional but the caller likely had a cold and not to worry.

then an hour later an old lady aged 71 rang in, she said she had other health issues but also now had flu like symptoms...she was asking if the virus could be passed on clothes and bags, ciara said it could but a short virus life on those items...ciara seemed rushed speaking with her and told her to mind herself.

now....my questions to you good posters...

1. if the younger mother had a dry cough, is this not one of the symptoms of the virus ?...i read somewhere you could only get tested in this country if you meet certain criteria and symptoms werent enough, you had to have been in contact with someone from an infected country or someone with the virus...have i got that right ?....its making me wonder how the 'community' based positive cases got tested, if they didnt meet the criteria.

2. is the correct advice to someone with say a dry cough that its likely just a cold...is there a risk factor that it could be the virus and the, albeit healthy young mother, is a carrier in her community ?....i know huge numbers with coughs across the country getting tested seems unworkable.

i suppose my questions come back to how the community based cases got tested and whats right advice to someone with symptoms.

I don’t think she should be telling people what they might or not might have on air. The HSE has a specific criteria outlining when you should contact your GP. I like Ciara but I think it’s irresponsible not to direct people to the HSE website it they have concerns as they should follow advice.

Ipso · 10-03-2020 03:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Will be interesting to see how Russia handles this.

Especially as they don't have experience in isolating people or controlling the media.

facehugger99 · 10-03-2020 03:40PM

I'd imagine one of the biggest problems the health service will face is an influx of panic-merchants with dry coughs clogging up A&E.

Stevieluvsye · 10-03-2020 03:40PM

alroley wrote: »

Rumours.

It's more than rumours

frillyleaf · 10-03-2020 03:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Will be interesting to see how Russia handles this.

Yes I’m interested in this too

Phibsboro · 10-03-2020 03:41PM

gozunda wrote: »

According to the Irish Times Hospital trolley numbers have fallen steeply.

The latest daily update on the number of people awaiting hospital beds put the number at 167 on Tuesday, a fall of two thirds or 67 per cent since the same day last week.

The reason seems to be a reluctance GPs not to refer patients to A&E / consultation

It is an interesting situation. Given the amount of money poured into the HSE, I've always had a vague worry that the constant crises are being generated (possibly inadvertently/sub conciously) by the staff. It is an ongoing issue with publicly funded services. The civil service traditionally had a "use it or lose it" policy that discouraged effeciencies as it just reduced your budget for next year. You can see that if a crisis is met by allocating more resources, people might make small choices over a period that lead to a visible crisis to attract more funding. Now that those same people can see the impending ****storm coming down the tracks, we are suddenly able to push people through the system more quickly. Will definitely be worth looking at after the corona epidemic has moved on.

10-03-2020 03:41PM

Heres the stats from Italy another poster put up a while ago, but in a chart format. Stats up to 9 March. Fatality rates and associated age groups in the bottom left.

https://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Infografica_09marzo.pdf/1f62ad0a-e156-cf27-309d-26adcb1b52b4?t=1583782049035

gabeeg · 10-03-2020 03:42PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I don’t think she should be telling people what they might or not might have on air. The HSE has a specific criteria outlining when you should contact your GP. I like Ciara but I think it’s irresponsible not to direct people to the HSE website it they have concerns as they should follow advice.

The website has terrible advice on affected countries

Places where there is spread of coronavirus

China
Hong Kong
Singapore
South Korea
Iran
Japan
Italy

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/advice-for-people-returning-from-affected-areas.html

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP