Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

JCX BXC · 14-02-2020 9:28pm

I'd imagine the idea behind this advertisment is to highlight that New York is back over a month early.

Definitely strange that they're making a bigger deal now than they did when they put the first A321 in Shannon, but live and let live I suppose. Stranger things have happened.

Zeek12 · 14-02-2020 11:59pm

Holly Proud Handcuff wrote: »

It was backed up past next exit in either direction. Utter lunacy

The timing was just awful for sure.
Right in the middle of the morning work commute.

OfTheMarsWongs · 15-02-2020 12:06am

Brennans Row wrote: »

Okay, Aer Lingus launches its second new aircraft at Shannon.

Good to get the improved quality of the new aircraft serving these routes promoted.

I’ve been on one of these planes going to/from Boston. Three toilets at the back but only one toilet (at start of galley) available to the whole of economy until after the meal was served. Resulted in queues for the loo. After the meal they allowed access to the other two which are situated at the back of the galley.

The toilets at the front were available to business class only.

Brennans Row · 15-02-2020 1:34pm

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

I’ve been on one of these planes going to/from Boston. Three toilets at the back but only one toilet (at start of galley) available to the whole of economy until after the meal was served. Resulted in queues for the loo. After the meal they allowed access to the other two which are situated at the back of the galley.

The toilets at the front were available to business class only.

That's daft, two of the three toilets serving 170 economy seats are closed during parts of the flight.

Then did this occur on both the outward and inward flights?

JamesBond2010 · 15-02-2020 1:54pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

That's daft, two of the three toilets serving 170 economy seats are closed during parts of the flight.

Then did this occur on both the outward and inward flights?

probally trying to cook & serve food & people in & out of the jacks beside you doesnt really help. & some people not washing their hands after coming out touching things u could be using not the best way be getting food ready

OfTheMarsWongs · 15-02-2020 2:26pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

That's daft, two of the three toilets serving 170 economy seats are closed during parts of the flight.

Then did this occur on both the outward and inward flights?

If memory serves it did. No passengers in the back two rows either and staff were using the space to sort out cups etc before the tea service.

Plane seems more suited for short haul where meal service wouldn’t cause an issue.

Cosmo Kramer · 16-02-2020 11:01am

While these aircraft are technically capable of flying transatlantic routes, narrow bodied aircraft in general are not really suited to anything other than short haul for this reason.

I guess they serve their purpose in that without them most, if not all, of the remaining transatlantic services from Shannon would end. However, I'd imagine they're a factor in a lot of people around the country choosing Dublin over Shannon for transatlantic trips. While Shannon is an easier airport to navigate it's just not worth it for seven hours on an A321.

Cookiemunster · 16-02-2020 11:44am

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

While these aircraft are technically capable of flying transatlantic routes, narrow bodied aircraft in general are not really suited to anything other than short haul for this reason.

I guess they serve their purpose in that without them most, if not all, of the remaining transatlantic services from Shannon would end. However, I'd imagine they're a factor in a lot of people around the country choosing Dublin over Shannon for transatlantic trips. While Shannon is an easier airport to navigate it's just not worth it for seven hours on an A321.

Only two of the 14 A321neos that EI will eventually receive will be Shannon based. They rest will be flying thin East Coast routes from Dublin. The same as the 757s have been for the last numbers of years.

The US carriers use 757s ex Dublin transatlantic too.

marno21 · 16-02-2020 1:16pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

I guess they serve their purpose in that without them most, if not all, of the remaining transatlantic services from Shannon would end. However, I'd imagine they're a factor in a lot of people around the country choosing Dublin over Shannon for transatlantic trips. While Shannon is an easier airport to navigate it's just not worth it for seven hours on an A321.

The majority of it is simple ignorance. “Ah sure Shannon Airport is ****e you can’t fly anywhere from there” and proceed to book from Dublin without checking any other airports.

You’d often have it in Cork. People booking flights from Dublin without checking Cork first and then complaining about it. You’d be surprised at how many people don’t realise you can fly to Amsterdam from Cork or Berlin from Kerry and only find out when they complain to someone else about the trek to Dublin.

Cosmo Kramer · 16-02-2020 3:12pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Only two of the 14 A321neos that EI will eventually receive will be Shannon based. They rest will be flying thin East Coast routes from Dublin. The same as the 757s have been for the last numbers of years.

The US carriers use 757s ex Dublin transatlantic too.

I know but the point I was making is that, in terms of the EI routes from Shannon, the same destinations are served by widebodies from Dublin. The narrowbodies at Dublin, as far as I'm aware, generally serve routes that aren't available from Shannon.

easypazz · 16-02-2020 6:28pm

What do you not get on an A321 that you get on a widebody?

Personally if I am booking a flight the aircraft doesnt bother me.

OfTheMarsWongs · 16-02-2020 8:08pm

easypazz wrote: »

What do you not get on an A321 that you get on a widebody?

Personally if I am booking a flight the aircraft doesnt bother me.

The only issue I had with the plane was there only being one toilet available for the whole of economy till after the meal was served.

Deagol · 16-02-2020 10:00pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

While these aircraft are technically capable of flying transatlantic routes, narrow bodied aircraft in general are not really suited to anything other than short haul for this reason.

I guess they serve their purpose in that without them most, if not all, of the remaining transatlantic services from Shannon would end. However, I'd imagine they're a factor in a lot of people around the country choosing Dublin over Shannon for transatlantic trips. While Shannon is an easier airport to navigate it's just not worth it for seven hours on an A321.

So you're saying the manufacturers build these with 3000km ranges for the laugh because they're not intended to actually fly this far??

And I doubt the majority of punters care a less or know in advance of arriving at the airport what type of aircraft they're on. For that matter I'd doubt that more than 20% of people know or care after they've been on it!

Anyone I know outside regular business travellers like myself doesn't look at anything beyond price and convenience and departure times (in that order).

Brennans Row · 17-02-2020 9:07pm

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|1,976|1,843|1,974|1,738|1,254|1,191|18,833
2020|1,221||||||||||||
Change|-2.0%||||||||||||

Shn99 · 23-02-2020 3:36pm

Ryanair SNN-MAN going daily from the beginning of June.

mart 23 · 23-02-2020 9:16pm

What kind of flight landings and departures make up Shannon commercial numbers monthly. Is it all of them.

Tiernster7 · 25-02-2020 11:50am

Shn99 wrote: »

Ryanair SNN-MAN going daily from the beginning of June.

Good news and a little more evidence of Shannon's relationship with Ryanair beginning to improve again.

Stanford · 29-02-2020 3:13pm

Ryanair flight just did a go-around at Shannon, why is he tracking that way?

Stanford · 29-02-2020 3:25pm

Second go-around now

Stanford · 29-02-2020 3:27pm

Heading East and climbing, diverted to Dublin?

Stanford · 29-02-2020 3:47pm

Tracking NE now, seems to be diverting to Belfast?

Stanford · 29-02-2020 4:03pm

Landed safely in Belfast

Brennans Row · 01-03-2020 12:22pm

Stanford wrote: »

Landed safely in Belfast

I wonder why Cork Airport was not an option.

The aircraft returned to Shannon around 18:00 (with or without passengers?).

Ryanair flight FR-4776 from Manchester to Shannon has been forced to divert to Belfast International Airport as winds at Shannon were reported to be outside safety limits. Winds at the airport were gusting to 54 knots (100 km/h) in the past hour. (Clare Herald)

Brennans Row · 01-03-2020 12:27pm

Holiday jet diverts to Shannon with ill passenger (Clare Herald)

A transatlantic jet diverted to Shannon Airport this (Tuesday) afternoon after the crew declared a medical emergency.

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines flight 129 was travelling from Amsterdam in The Netherlands to the Dutch Caribbean island of Curaçao at the time.

The Boeing 747-400 Jumbo Jet was about 220 kilometres south of Waterford and around 320 kilometres from Shannon Airport when the crew declared a medical emergency at around 12.30pm today.

The flight was cleared to turn and begin routing towards Shannon before then being rerouted away from the Irish coast again for a time while the flight crew dumped aviation fuel over the ocean.

Brennans Row · 01-03-2020 12:30pm

The CSO statistics for October are out.

JCX BXC · 01-03-2020 12:36pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

I wonder why Cork Airport was not an option.

Have you ever seen the orientation of the runway in Cork? Had its own issues.

Brennans Row · 01-03-2020 12:38pm

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for January are out.

Drop of -7.5%, Brexit uncertainties to be followed by the Corona virus.

JamesBond2010 · 01-03-2020 11:49pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

Holiday jet diverts to Shannon with ill passenger (Clare Herald)

A transatlantic jet diverted to Shannon Airport this (Tuesday) afternoon after the crew declared a medical emergency.

KLM Royal Dutch Airlines flight 129 was travelling from Amsterdam in The Netherlands to the Dutch Caribbean island of Curaçao at the time.

The Boeing 747-400 Jumbo Jet was about 220 kilometres south of Waterford and around 320 kilometres from Shannon Airport when the crew declared a medical emergency at around 12.30pm today.

The flight was cleared to turn and begin routing towards Shannon before then being rerouted away from the Irish coast again for a time while the flight crew dumped aviation fuel over the ocean.

U know today is Sunday ???:P:P not tuesday:D:D

hobie14 · 03-03-2020 4:26pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

U know today is Sunday ???:P:P not tuesday:D:D

I suspect the Tuesday everyone is talking about is feb. 25th 2020 .... on that day I saw a diverting KLM 747 on short finals for SNN runway 24 ... bless it ☺

Shn99 · 10-03-2020 1:02am

Unlikely to be any growth this year i would presume. Demand for air travel has gone right down due to COVID19

JamesBond2010 · 10-03-2020 11:49am

Shn99 wrote: »

Unlikely to be any growth this year i would presume. Demand for air travel has gone right down due to COVID19

Ya mangement have their excuse now for this Year. & it was the 737 max issue last year.

RocketRaccoon · 10-03-2020 12:00pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Ya mangement have their excuse now for this Year. & it was the 747 max issue last year.

An excuse? It's a fact unfortunately.

I'd also love to see a 747 max

JamesBond2010 · 10-03-2020 12:03pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

An excuse? It's a fact unfortunately.

I'd also love to see a 747 max

I know u right but u know what i mean.

JCX BXC · 10-03-2020 12:20pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Ya mangement have their excuse now for this Year. & it was the 747 max issue last year.

Stupid comment, airport would have grown this year if it wasn't for the outbreak, some good routes acquired.

Also, 737 max.

JamesBond2010 · 10-03-2020 2:06pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Stupid comment, airport would have grown this year if it wasn't for the outbreak, some good routes acquired.

Also, 737 max.

Do you work there ?? name the routes so ?
Also if delta come back this year they are supposed to be doing only 2 days a week.

JCX BXC · 10-03-2020 2:15pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Do you work there ?? name the routes so ?

Name the routes? Barcelona, Paris, Vienna, it's not secret information you know!

knockon · 10-03-2020 2:16pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Do you work there ?? name the routes so ?
Also if delta come back this year they are supposed to be doing only 2 days a week.

Bull@@it.

DL - SNN-JFK Daily 2nd May - 27th Sept

New Routes EI SNN - BCN 3 days a week & SNN - CDG 4 days a week
Vienna with Lauda - 2 days a week April - October

and yes I do work here!

JCX BXC · 10-03-2020 2:18pm

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Also if delta come back this year they are supposed to be doing only 2 days a week.

Codswallop, don't just make up things.

JamesBond2010 · 10-03-2020 2:51pm

JCX BXC wrote: »

Codswallop, don't just make up things.

i wasnt making up things i was told that there. it was probally another load of crap someone heard and passed it on thinking it was real

knockon you know what rumors are like in that place.

Thanks folks for that.

MarkR · 10-03-2020 3:37pm

Everyone, asterisks do not make it OK. Tone down the language.

Brennans Row · 10-03-2020 9:14pm

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|1,976|1,843|1,974|1,738|1,254|1,191|18,833
2020|1,221|1,179|||||||||||
Change|-2.0%|+8.5%|||||||||||

knockon · 11-03-2020 3:57pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Unlikely to be any growth this year i would presume. Demand for air travel has gone right down due to COVID19

25-30 no shows yesterday and today for EI flights to LHR. Unfortunately this is going to decimate the industry.

JamesBond2010 · 11-03-2020 4:03pm

knockon wrote: »

25-30 no shows yesterday and today for EI flights to LHR. Unfortunately this is going to decimate the industry.

That many holy crap. You are right there.

golfball37 · 11-03-2020 10:35pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|1,976|1,843|1,974|1,738|1,254|1,191|18,833
2020|1,221|1,179|||||||||||
Change|-2.0%|+8.5%|||||||||||

Extra day in February this year. Down on 2017 and 2018

highlydebased · 12-03-2020 12:16am

BA LCY-JFK stopper off until September

knockon · 12-03-2020 2:32am

Now from Friday onwards no EI flights to JFK and BOS. That also cans UA daily service to EWR due to start in 2 weeks time. It’s a hammer blow to Aer Lingus who are carrying thousands across the Atlantic daily from Dublin and Shannon. Awful news for Shannon.

Update: Apparently Schengen only - clarified by US Department of Homeland Security. Presumably Ireland unaffected.

Aviation2K16 · 12-03-2020 7:09pm

knockon wrote: »

Now from Friday onwards no EI flights to JFK and BOS. That also cans UA daily service to EWR due to start in 2 weeks time. It’s a hammer blow to Aer Lingus who are carrying thousands across the Atlantic daily from Dublin and Shannon. Awful news for Shannon.

Update: Apparently Schengen only - clarified by US Department of Homeland Security. Presumably Ireland unaffected.

Flights from SNN and DUB are ok. Theyll still operate.

EI111 seems heavily delayed today though.

mdmix · 12-03-2020 8:05pm

Potentially the ban will assist snn as french and Spanish can fly through snn?

JamesBond2010 · 12-03-2020 8:17pm

mdmix wrote: »

Potentially the ban will assist snn as french and Spanish can fly through snn?

when they look @ their passports they will get caught out. They will see where they travelled from.

golfball37 · 13-03-2020 3:55pm

Omni gone as of this morning for at least 3 weeks, moving it to Bulgaria. The flight they temporarily moved to Germany a few years ago never came back.
Disaster for the airport, especially the retail duty free shop.

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