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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Austria is now banning entry into the country for anyone coming from Italy.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51815907

    As I was saying last week ... watch politicians describing specific mesures as useless and then enforcing these exact same measures a week later, and wonder what it does to public trust in the authorities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    the chap on Claire Byrne Live last night who contracted Covid 19 only had 1 symptom which was fever, he did not have a cough etc...

    He wasn't Christopher Walken by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Saint Ruth


    It has peaked and is in decline in China & S. Korea. It will follow the same path in Italy too.
    Italy has a population of 60 million, death rate creeping up to 500, lets say it reaches 2000. China population 1.4 billion, lets say they peak at 10,000 deaths (at the moment only reporting 3,136).
    So Ireland likely to suffer 20 - 30 virus related deaths altogether?

    It's bad. Very bad.

    But not exactly the plague.
    But it peaked and declined in China due to draconian measures, tens of millions of people in lockdown for weeks, people dragged off by the police if they broke quarantee, and a 17% fall in exports.

    Sure, I've no doubt there would be 20-30 cases in Ireland if this country went into lockdown on that scale today, or soon enough, but there'll be a lot more than 20-30 deaths if we carry on as usual with a "it'll all be grand" or "sure it's only a bit of a flu". ;)
    E.g. Hong Kong's schools have been closed for a month and they've only had 114 cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Fia11 wrote: »
    Yet the offices are still full and no one working from home. 'Deep cleaning' my hole. Send them home!

    This is the company where suicide nets had to be installed in the iPhone manufacturing plant, they'll let the langers burn before there sent home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Hopefully the (belated) realism from the government yesterday jolted the majority out of their complacency over this. The virologists and epidemiologists are relentlessy hammering this message home: its only the population themselves by behaviour modification can stop this. Its doesn't take much sometimes to alter an exponential trend. Washing hands properly can cut virus spread by up to 54%. Throw in social distancing as well and the risk is cut further. If a majority heed this advice the total number of cases CAN be cut drastically.
    Agree even hardend 20/day smokers can see near instant (weeks) repair begining to their lungs. Actual cell rejuvenation, potential for significant damage repair in the longer term.

    COVID19 will actively, and specifically target the lungs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Wow is right.

    masks don't work.
    closed borders don't work.

    https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1237311577122054144?s=20


    Singapore is big on temperature checking which was effective in stopping SARS in the past. However, you could have Corvid19 for much longer before getting a temperature, so this measure is only partly effective. They don't just measure temperature at the border but at the entrance to schools, universities and employers. The latter might be more useful than the former.



    Face masks have a role, but there isn't much use wearing them on the street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,625 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I'd love to read it, it's behind a paywall. Could you copy paste please?
    No paywall for me...
    Experts: Rapid Testing Helps Explain Few German Virus Deaths

    By The Associated Press

    March 9, 2020

    BERLIN — Germany has confirmed more than 1,100 cases of the new coronavirus but — so far — just two deaths, far fewer than other European countries with a similar number of reported infections.

    Experts said Monday that rapid testing as the outbreak unfolded meant Germany has probably diagnosed a much larger proportion of those who have been infected, including younger patients who are less likely to develop serious complications.

    That's given authorities more chance of containing the virus, and more time to prepare for it.

    “We in Germany were simply at the forefront in terms of diagnostics,” said Christian Drosten, the director of the Institute for Virology at Berlin's Charite hospital.

    No deaths of people with the virus were reported in Germany before the first two announced Monday: an 89-year-old in the western city of Essen and a 78-year-old man in Heinsberg county near the Dutch border. Both locations are in North Rhine-Westphalia state, which accounts for 484 of the 1,112 infections confirmed in Germany to date.

    France has reported a similar number of cases as Germany — just over 1,200 — but also 19 deaths. Spain's health minister said Monday night there have been 28 deaths among the country's 1,204 confirmed cases.

    Drosten said Germany's dense network of independent labs received both the technical information needed to conduct tests and the approval to bill for them in January, when case numbers in Germany were still in the single digits.

    “These effects combined, I'm very certain of this, gave us an extreme advantage in recognizing the epidemic in Germany," Drosten told reporters in Berlin.

    Unlike in other countries, where national laboratories had a monopoly on testing, Germany's distributed system helped doctors to swiftly determine whether suspected cases actually involved the new virus or a common cold, which can have similar symptoms.

    “Other countries lost a month or even more time because of this,” Drosten said.

    For most people, the new coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia.

    Lothar H. Wieler, who heads the Robert Koch Institute, Germany's national disease control institute, cautioned that the country will see more deaths going forward.

    The low number of complications relative to the number of cases reported so far was partly due to the types of people being diagnosed, he said, contrasting the situation in Germany with that in nearby Italy, which has reported 463 deaths and 9,172 cases.

    “It's a fact that the age structure of those who have died in Italy is around 80,” said Wieler. “Many of the young people who are also infected simply haven't been recognized.”

    According to the World Health Organization, people with mild illness recover in about two weeks, while those with more severe illness may take three to six weeks to recover.

    In Germany, the median age of those diagnosed with COVID-19, the disease the virus causes, is about 40, he said. “We identified people early on with our testing who are infected, but not seriously ill.”

    The 79-year-old man who died in Heinsberg, where a large cluster of cases has been linked to traditionally raucous German carnival celebrations last month, had numerous underlying health problems including diabetes and heart trouble, said Stephan Pusch, who heads the county administration.

    Authorities across Germany opened additional testing sites Monday. In Berlin, almost 100 people lined up outside one of four new sites waiting for it to open. The town of Esslingen set up a drive-in testing site where patients referred by a general practitioner can have samples taken while sitting in their cars.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that tough new measures now being imposed would help buy even more time to slow the spread of the virus.

    In recent days, authorities have stepped up quarantines, closed numerous schools and urged soccer clubs to play matches without spectators. On Monday, the German parliament announced that visitors won't be allowed to access the glass dome of the Reichstag building anymore.

    "All of this is necessary," said Merkel.

    “We are working for valuable time, time in which scientists can research medicines and a vaccine," she said. ___

    The Associated Press receives support for health and science coverage from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Fia11


    This is the company where suicide nets had to be installed in the iPhone manufacturing plant, they'll let the langers burn before there sent home.

    Jaysus. They should all say they feel unwell and then **** off home.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just found out a woman is in isolation in my alley two doors down since the 2nd. Think it's a returnee from Korea. (I'm in Hanoi.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    Getting on top of the crisi in Europe is one thing but its going to be pointless in the long run becasue Trump has now ****ed the US.

    No proper testing and incoherent messaging and lies from Trump has insured 1,000's will probably die and the virus will become widespread in the US.

    If we get thru this it may be in vain becuase of trumps ****ing ego.

    Voting Trump to own the libs is some legacy. Who ever voted for him should not be let forget that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Saint Ruth wrote: »
    But it peaked and declined in China due to draconian measures, tens of millions of people in lockdown for weeks, people dragged off by the police if they broke quarantee, and a 17% fall in exports.

    Sure, I've no doubt there would be 20-30 cases in Ireland if this country went into lockdown on that scale today, or soon enough, but there'll be a lot more than 20-30 deaths if we carry on as usual with a "it'll all be grand" or "sure it's only a bit of a flu". ;)
    E.g. Hong Kong's schools have been closed for a month and they've only had 114 cases

    I'll predict right now that we'll see more road fatalities in Ireland in 2020 than we do deaths from Cornavirus.

    Proportionate and measure response required, not hysterical overreaction driven by the social-media scare-merchants.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.

    Cancel. Is it cheaper to lose some money now, or to risk ending up in hospital and/or have life-long side effects, or even to cause someone else's death? I know it's a worst-case scenario, but it's not that far-fetched. Cancel, cancel, cancel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.

    Do you think the Americans will look after you if you get quarantined?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.

    Cancel and then apply for a refund of flight fees etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Oh dear...

    "Nottingham Forest owner Evangelos Marinakis, who was at the Championship football team’s home game on Friday alongside more than 27,000 fans, has contracted coronavirus."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/10/coronavirus-update-latest-italy-shutdown-lockdown-who-pandemic-outbreak-quarantine-uk-cases-usa-america-australia-live-news-updates?page=with:block-5e677d698f087df56e4c5a1e#block-5e677d698f087df56e4c5a1e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,024 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    flynnlives wrote: »
    Getting on top of the crisi in Europe is one thing but its going to be pointless in the long run becasue Trump has now ****ed the US.

    No proper testing and incoherent messaging and lies from Trump has insured 1,000's will probably die and the virus will become widespread in the US.

    If we get thru this it may be in vain becuase of trumps ****ing ego.

    Voting Trump to own the libs is some legacy. Who ever voted for him should not be let forget that.

    I really hope it takes out people with Trump derangement syndrome there the only thing worse than the school strike brigade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Fia11 wrote: »
    Attempts are being made.

    Please post a video, I think we could all benefit from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    So far, the only two European Countries that have been widespread testing have been UK and Italy (25 K and 50 K respectively).
    Seems that the others have been afraid of what they could find - they could have been lucky as the UK, who knows.
    They did not take any measures and we now are coming up to 4K cases across France, Germany, Spain.

    23 February: Italy had done 3000 tests and found "only" 132 positive cases
    Lockdown starts for the epicentres, population 50000 people, with police and army check points
    In those areas the spread has now slowed down. It worked.
    When will the other Countries follow suit ?
    Both France and Germany have epicentres (while in Spain the spread is across the country) so they could have done it, too.

    Age profile of patients in Germany is much lower, however even Germany does not have unlimited ICU beds for those younger patients, and their system is struggling
    https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-in-germany-health-care-system-under-pressure/a-52663510
    France has a older age profile and is also struggling
    https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/nous-sommes-satures-a-paris-la-pitie-salpetriere-a-ouvert-une-unite-dediee-aux-malades-du-coronavirus-1872340.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Right, I'm off to the gym. No more excuses. Time to LIFT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    I think its shameful that Ryanair, an Irish company, is now leading the spread of coronavirus throughout Europe.

    With Italy in lockdown the only way to exit the country is by Ryanair flights elsewhere to Europe. Ryanair have put financial gain above the health and wellbeing of the vast majority of the population, putting countless lives at risk.

    If you feel strongly enough about this, contact your local TD or else the following:

    fod@iaa.ie

    webmaster@taoiseach.gov.ie

    https://contactform.ryanair.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.

    Go and enjoy yourself for God's sake.

    90% of this thread are preparing for a zombie apocalypse so asking for advice here is an useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭123654789


    Cancel. For sure. Risk in airports, on plane, risk of being quarantined there.. all too high and not worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Very poignant take on the human impact of this, if there's 1 death or 100 or anything more or less. Imagine not being able to be with your family when they're sick or, God forbid, dying.

    https://twitter.com/florNEWS/status/1237325865731719169?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Fia11


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Have flights to NYC booked for April. Today is the last day I can cancel my hotel for free, what would Boardsies do?
    We're getting a really good deal and I know I won't find a better price but at the rate this virus is escalating I don't think I'll be going regardless. I don't know what to do.

    Cancel. If you do end up going you'll get a class deal on a last minute hotel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭123654789


    Go and enjoy yourself for God's sake.
    .

    Like all the Italians who came to Dublin?:mad:


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Please post a video, I think we could all benefit from this.

    When in Rome...

    1a-roman-toilet-stick.jpg?resize=632%2C364


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭flynnlives


    I really hope it takes out people with Trump derangement syndrome there the only thing worse than the school strike brigade.

    Trump called the virus a democratic hoax and also said it would be gone by April.

    Hes a bull**** artist and anyone who supports him is a moron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Supposed to be going to Munich for the weekend for some boozin'/touristin', thoughts?...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Fia11


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Please post a video, I think we could all benefit from this.
    I'll need someone to come round and hold the camera, it's a two hand job.

    Two-hand job, now. Not two hand-job.


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