Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

10-03-2020 05:42AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

The Chinese are to blame for coronavirus but specifically because their government policy is to hide all criticism which allowed it to flourish.

And it's not the first virus to start in China not the first time the Chinese government tried to block information on.

It's flourishing in every country. It had already flourished before they knew it existed.

10-03-2020 06:04AM

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/ValerioEsposito/status/1237162333589442560

Video showing Italian “protezione civile” (civil protection service) has been sending cars (even late at night) with loud speakers urging residents to stay indoors and not leave the house unless it’s absolutely necessary.

They're no longer having burial ceremonies. If you are sick, there is noone to care for you. Young people are dying because they are having to triage those among them who are less severe. The elderly haven't even the slightest hope based on the testimony of many.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/

Please, if you aren't worried about this, start adjusting your perspective.

Sage words. Best of luck dude.

The numbers are low, the percentage that's fatal is low. People are too eager to jump in panic.

It's a new virus.l but it's not the zombie apocalypse. How many did Spanish flu kill? Even regular flu kills people even today and that's been around centuries.

It will be cured, it will be contained, life will continue.

Ficheall · 10-03-2020 06:17AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So it spread in China because they tried to keep it quiet.. What is every other country's excuse? At least Italy and Ireland knew there even was a virus.

Kept denying it was a problem maybe.

Eg. post 6122 in the first thread:

Deleted User wrote:

No other country will have a Wuhan sort of explosion because of this virus.

fash · 10-03-2020 06:38AM

GM228 wrote: »

Worthy of a conspiracy theory no doubt, published in 1981!

https://twitter.com/Scixp/status/1234458733964677122?s=19

Debunked by the author - the original 1980's book said Soviets and Gorky virus and nobody would have taken China seriously. It was updated in 1990's to China

Yurt2 · 10-03-2020 06:46AM

dePeatrick wrote: »

Spanish flu came from the U.S., so did mumps and measles, polio was first recorded in Ancient Greece, could go on but blaming the Chinese for Coronavirus is at best useless, at worst xenophobic.

The Chinese government can certainly be blamed for failing to regulate the wild animal trade for consumption which happens under their noses and they consistently fail to act. Particulary as they were aware that the most likely cause of the SARS outbreak was the trade in civet cats for consumption. They can be blamed for the condition of the wet-markets, they can be blamed for the initial coverup and censorship of the outbreak, which evidence suggests went to the highest levels.

If lets say the German government presided over the same set of circumstances, we wouldn't be shy about where to apportion blame for this global health disaster. Xenephobia doesn't come into it.

Graces7 · 10-03-2020 07:00AM

OneColdHand wrote: »

Don't have any paracetamol. Gonna head down to Tesco and pick up a few boxes.

You can buy ONE in Tesco.. One in Dunne's... ONE in Lidl and so on. I prefer ibuprofen or aspirin . Same rules apply. ..

Graces7 · 10-03-2020 07:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is population density a factor in mitigating spread? England’s average is 426 per sq km. Irelands is 70, as low as 32 in the west.

I opined this a while ago and it makes sense. Thankfully. I am in West Mayo and in the more remote areas houses are far from each other and gathering places few and far between.

vladmydad · 10-03-2020 07:26AM

80% of the America's antibotics are manufactured in China..not to mention most Diabetes medicine..Trump was right all along, the west is way to reliant on China in so many areas. And now western countries are buying “cheap” telecommunications capabilities from China (Huawei). Imagine how easily all of this could be weaponized against us. These are just some of the many lessons of the Virus outbreak.

vladmydad · 10-03-2020 07:30AM

Graces7 wrote: »

I opined this a while ago and it makes sense. Thankfully. I am in West Mayo and in the more remote areas houses are far from each other and gathering places few and far between.

You know I actually thought of you today Grace. From interacting with you on the weather chat, Your in a great situation on your island, being so isolated. Provided you have plenty of supplies/ prescriptions etc. you’ll outlive us all lol

Hamsterchops · 10-03-2020 07:35AM

Just wondering should I go down the shops today & stockpile some Covid "stuff"?

I'm thinking 200 toilet rolls, 24 large bags of pasta, 25 packets of paracetamol, 76 bottles of handgel, a new torch with six months battery supply, 10 pairs of shoes, 10x5Ltr bottles of spring water, 35 tins of soup,12 loaves of Brennans bread (sliced white) + a crate of Marmite.

That should do the trick.

Feisar · 10-03-2020 07:36AM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

"Wet markets" are just large markets with perishable goods; fruit, vegetables, meat, fish, etc. The problem is the wet markets that also have considerable numbers of live animals, particularly wild animals.

Wet market sounds nasty though.

dublin99 · 10-03-2020 07:37AM

Thai rep at WHO speaks at the 146th WHO Executive board.
Please watch.
He is right!

https://youtu.be/sYC9QhLcxUw

Larbre34 · 10-03-2020 07:37AM

Trump is diabetic? I didn't know. Type 2 presumably.

Over 70 AND underlying health problems, how delightful.

DOCARCH · 10-03-2020 07:38AM

Feisar wrote: »

Wet market sounds nasty though.

There's a few tourist videos online/on Youtube of the Wuhan market. Does not make for pleasant viewing!

Graces7 · 10-03-2020 07:39AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I'm actually seeing the need now for a separate tech thread for this, as has been suggested previously.

Do we have mods with the expertise to do that job, as we have with the weather threads?

It did not work with the weather forum as war broke out on both threads so it went back to tech thread only with some allowance for chat.

Easy enough to scroll past irrelevant posts? And beasty is doing a wonderful work screening out the really bad ones . THANK YOU Beasty!

Wanderer78 · 10-03-2020 07:39AM

vladmydad wrote:

80% of the America's antibotics are manufactured in China..not to mention most Diabetes medicine..Trump was right all along, the west is way to reliant on China in so many areas. And now western countries are buying â€œcheapâ€ telecommunications capabilities from China (Huawei). Imagine how easily all of this could be weaponized against us. These are just some of the many lessons of the Virus outbreak.

....and fair play to trump in doing something about it, he's bringing some jobs back to America!

Reati · 10-03-2020 07:46AM

Feisar wrote: »

Wet market sounds nasty though.

Google it. They are. Somethings called a "warm meat" market too as they also will kill, bleed and skin your live wild animal right there for you. So you can see and smell the freshness....

Runaways · 10-03-2020 07:46AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

....and fair play to trump in doing something about it, he's bringing some jobs back to America!

The worst ever day on the stock market and now he’s doing this to try cover it up and distract from his completely wrong stance on covid

https://twitter.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1237087834298859520?s=19

Wanderer78 · 10-03-2020 07:48AM

Runaways wrote:

The worst ever day on the stock market and now heâ€™s doing this to try cover it up and distract from his completely wrong stance on covid

Ah shur he's a fcuking idiot

Poor_old_gill · 10-03-2020 07:51AM

Got sent this photo yesterday, ESB’s head office has really ramped its prevention measures.

A floor that supposedly has 3 entrance doors had a paper sign pinned up on one of them.

Probably had a whole health & safety team working on this and they still got it wrong - should be ‘No exit’ as that’s the door out.

Who knew a virus could be could be so demotivated by a sigh that it wouldn’t try the other 2 doors? we should tell the rest of the world

Graces7 · 10-03-2020 07:52AM

fin12 wrote: »

It’s not, I bought two packs together in boots the other day.

Boots are a pharmacy, so different discretionary standards. Supermarkets are allowed to sell only one pack of analgesics at a time.

dwayneshintzy · 10-03-2020 07:53AM

Reati wrote: »

Google it. They are. Somethings called a "warm meat" market too as they also will kill, bleed and skin your live wild animal right there for you. So you can see and smell the freshness....

That's not really true, though. I've literally never heard the term "warm meat" market. Wild animals are not in all wet markets by any means. Have you been to a wet market in Asia?

dwayneshintzy · 10-03-2020 07:54AM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

Got sent this photo yesterday, ESB’s head office has really ramped its prevention measures.

A floor that supposedly has 3 entrance doors had a paper sign pinned up on one of them.

Probably had a whole health & safety team working on this and they still got it wrong - should be ‘No exit’ as that’s the door out.

Who knew a virus could be could be so demotivated by a sigh that it wouldn’t try the other 2 doors? we should tell the rest of the world

Could it just be shutting off entrances/exits so that only one is used, where temperatures can be taken?

screamer · 10-03-2020 07:55AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Ah shur he's a fcuking idiot

I don’t want to derail this thread, but coronavirus is the enemy within every country now, the biggest threat to our way of living that we’ll likely see in our lifetimes. It’s time for targeted action not bluster. I was very surprised and somewhat grateful to the government yesterday for telling it like it is and putting some serious actions in place to try and help us through this. We’re in for a rough ride make no mistakes and I’d bet that coronavirus will change things as we know them in terms of global supply chains etc.

sudzs · 10-03-2020 07:56AM

Graces7 wrote: »

You can buy ONE in Tesco.. One in Dunne's... ONE in Lidl and so on. I prefer ibuprofen or aspirin . Same rules apply. ..

And wouldn't ibuprofen or aspirin be the better otc painkillers as the anti inflammatory properties should help with the lung inflammation??

And would a suppressant cough medicine, rather than an expectorant be best too??

screamer · 10-03-2020 07:57AM

sudzs wrote: »

And wouldn't ibuprofen or aspirin be the better otc painkillers as the anti inflammatory properties should help with the lung inflammation??

And would a suppressant cough medicine, rather than an expectorant be best too??

Ibuprofen can be very problematic for asthma sufferers and cause attacks, just saying.
Cough suppressant if you have a phlegmy cough can make you sicker as the mucous builds up in your lungs...... and give you a chest infection.
so best advise is for us all to ask our pharmacists for advise based on our own medical history

jonnyphant · 10-03-2020 07:58AM

Tough to know what to do on my travels now with the virus;

- keep travelling staying in low risk zones, or
- choose where I want to be medium term and get there soon and safely before they potentially stop flights and start quarantining?

Hamsterchops · 10-03-2020 07:58AM

sudzs wrote: »

And wouldn't ibuprofen or aspirin be the better otc painkillers as the anti inflammatory properties should help with the lung inflammation??

And would a suppressant cough medicine, rather than an expectorant be best too??

Paracetamol is the safest option.
Few side effects, if any ....

whisky_galore · 10-03-2020 08:00AM

Feisar wrote: »

Wet market sounds nasty though.

Think all sorts of animals of various species in cages, pissing and sh1tting on top of each other before sale or slaughter. You couldnt make up a better way to kick start a pandemic, only a matter of time really.

Poor_old_gill · 10-03-2020 08:01AM

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Could it just be shutting off entrances/exits so that only one is used, where temperatures can be taken?

I asked was there any additional checks on the other doors and was told no.
The staff said that there seems to be no point to it

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP