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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Every country with industrialised animal farming increases our risk of zoonotic transmission, just look at Big Farma in USA, probably not so much different in EU regarding pigs

    Pigs can be a huge vector risk.

    Don't go stating facts on here. Only hyperbolic nonsense is accepted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I mean, they don't KNOW for sure that he doesn't have it, even after he says he doesn't. He doesn't even know if he has it. He couldn't know for certain unless he was tested.

    Pretty sure they all knew for sure when they were handed the script.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Exactly who is going to hold them accountable do you reckon?

    An education in why wet markets are a bad idea is all I'm asking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    And my sentiments in response to that post are being misinterpreted by you as a 'don't panic, carry on as normal' thing which they aren't.
    It's no big deal, just clarifying.
    Should have been clear in my reply which was more in the nature of supporting response to your comments re older generations, understood that your msg was not 'don't panic, carry on as normal' which seems to be Strazdas' theme.

    Thanks for your comment which has taught me to double-check in future as to whether my replies/responses are sufficiently self-explanatory to convey their intent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Pretty disgusting comments.

    Which ones in particular?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    nocoverart wrote: »
    An education in why wet markets are a bad idea is all I'm asking.
    "Wet markets" aren't bad. The way they operate in certain/many parts of China is definitely an issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    joe40 wrote: »
    It's been in the UK since end of January. The numbers are not doubling every week.

    You are right. They are actually more than doubling every week.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_the_United_Kingdom

    End of week 1 which was 6th feb, UK had 3 cases. If the trend was to double every week, you'd expect by end of week 6 which is about now, 96 cases. Instead the UK today has 319 cases.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kowloon wrote: »
    Which ones in particular?

    The sweeping ones against 1.4bn people.. Oh wait, no. Not the people, just their culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes, but there's a difference between acknowledging that there's a major problem with wet markets in many areas of China, and simply saying "fook their culture" and that something needs to be done about them as a people.

    What's your opinion on caged bears in China and the vivisection performed to extract their bile and the state of insanity this causes in the bears? We could then go on to the trafficking in endangered animal parts and the likely extinction of many species.

    All this is part of Chinese traditional 'culture'. Obviously you think it not acceptable to condemn or criticise these things.

    I think it is perfectly ok, and in fact our duty, if we are to improve humanities moral performance as a whole. I don't think Chinese 'culture' should be held as sacrosanct over abhorrent acts of animal cruelty and downright barbarism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    The world has changed drastically before my eyes. I hope everyone here, no matter whether they disagree with everything I say, think I'm an idiot or have just never even seen me around here gets through this safely as does everyone you care about.

    Good luck to you all. I genuinely mean that. Good luck to everyone in the country and the world.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Honestly, fook the Chinese Government and fook their culture for this sh1t show! how more people aren’t disgusted by their ways is beyond me. I’ll probably get more hate for this comment than they will for compromising the Globe.

    For sure. Bad bad bad bio hazardous practices. Looks like Wuhan might be on the mend. China is responsible for this mess. They better row in and help the rest of us out with funding perhaps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    https://mobile.twitter.com/ValerioEsposito/status/1237162333589442560

    Video showing Italian “protezione civile” (civil protection service) has been sending cars (even late at night) with loud speakers urging residents to stay indoors and not leave the house unless it’s absolutely necessary.

    They're no longer having burial ceremonies. If you are sick, there is noone to care for you. Young people are dying because they are having to triage those among them who are less severe. The elderly haven't even the slightest hope based on the testimony of many.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/ff8hns/testimony_of_a_surgeon_working_in_bergamo_in_the/

    Please, if you aren't worried about this, start adjusting your perspective.
    The world has changed drastically before my eyes. I hope everyone here, no matter whether they disagree with everything I say, think I'm an idiot or have just never even seen me around here gets through this safely as does everyone you care about.

    Good luck to you all. I genuinely mean that. Good luck to everyone in the country and the world.
    Sage words. Best of luck dude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    cnocbui wrote: »
    What's your opinion on caged bears in China and the vivisection performed to extract their bile and the state of insanity this causes in the bears? We could then go on to the trafficking in endangered animal parts and the likely extinction of many species.

    All this is part of Chinese traditional 'culture'. Obviously you think it not acceptable to condemn or criticise these things.

    I think it is perfectly ok, and in fact our duty, if we are to improve humanities moral performance as a whole. I don't think Chinese 'culture' should be held as sacrosanct over abhorrent acts of animal cruelty and downright barbarism.
    Eh? Why would you say I think any of that is something you can't criticise?


    Posters literally said "fook their culture" and that Chinese people need to be "dealt with". That's racism. There are nearly 1.4bn people in China, as well as the populations of Hong Kon, Taiwan, Singapore and the diaspora around the world. Making sweeping statements such as "fook their culture" isn't acceptable, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭paddythere


    they reckon its because children haven't developed the receptors in their lungs that the virus is binding to (as far as i've read anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The sweeping ones against 1.4bn people.. Oh wait, no. Not the people, just their culture.

    Got you, this thread is moving at some speed. We had 'let the old people die, they contribute nothing', earlier.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    I've got 2 smokes left in the pack and I was thinking about nipping out for more for the morning cravings, but now I'm thinking, seriously, if this isn't a cue to finally quit I don't know what is. So that's it for me with ciggies. Two last silk cut purple and never again. I just hope I haven't fu*ked my lungs up so much that the virus kills me. If I can make it through tomorrow then get to bed and wake up on Thursday with 2 full sleeps without nicotine in my body then I'll be through the worst of it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    sabat wrote: »
    I've got 2 smokes left in the pack and I was thinking about nipping out for more for the morning cravings, but now I'm thinking, seriously, if this isn't a cue to finally quit I don't know what is. So that's it for me with ciggies. Two last silk cut purple and never again. I just hope I haven't fu*ked my lungs up so much that the virus kills me. If I can make it through tomorrow then get to bed and wake up on Thursday with 2 full sleeps without nicotine in my body then I'll be through the worst of it...
    It could help you too with the social distancing thing.
    When I quit smoking I didn’t go to the pubs for two months so I wouldn’t be tempted.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any word in Europe of punishment for people lying about the having the virus or where they've travelled?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    sabat wrote: »
    I've got 2 smokes left in the pack and I was thinking about nipping out for more for the morning cravings, but now I'm thinking, seriously, if this isn't a cue to finally quit I don't know what is. So that's it for me with ciggies. Two last silk cut purple and never again. I just hope I haven't fu*ked my lungs up so much that the virus kills me. If I can make it through tomorrow then get to bed and wake up on Thursday with 2 full sleeps without nicotine in my body then I'll be through the worst of it...

    The first year is the worst.

    Sure it is easy not to get out at 1am to get cigarettes when you still have 2 left ;)

    Being honest here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    My four-year-old bottle of hand sanitizer has waited patiently for its time and now it's thriving.

    Hand sanitizer has a best before. The Alcohol part tends to evaporate over time - rendering the liquid less usefull for killing viruses


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Any word in Europe of punishment for people lying about the having the virus or where they've travelled?

    Why, what have you done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    brookers wrote: »
    They are no strangers to pandemics themselves, having caused the mass killings of many.
    Jesus that is a seriously cheap shot, how dare you politicise Coronavirus!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Any word in Europe of punishment for people lying about the having the virus or where they've travelled?

    burn-them-5b8d3d.jpg

    Edit: Not you but maybe some of the mob with the pitchforks above...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    My sister In law works in a university, admin role. They were told today that academics have laptops so can work from home. Students can learn from home. Admin staff have desktops so must be in the office. She can’t roll her chair back without hitting someone so no social distancing for her. Those with children will possibly be exempt. So she will have to work and she’ll have to cover her colleagues workloads

    The taps in our work loos are all screw handles and only hand dryers so you wash your hands, but as soon as you turn the water off, you’re contaminated again. :
    Wash the taps as well.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gozunda wrote: »
    Edit: Not you but maybe some of the mob with the pitchforks above...

    I'm not really sure what to make of punishing people. Vietnam is going to come down very hard on people and most seem happy with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    For anyone sayif "fk the chinese" "they have blood on their hands" etc. I'd love to know for what they think the chinese did (or didn't do) that caused this.
    Apart from eating the bats mentioned already obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Anyone know what will happen to court cases and in particular criminal cases where people are remanded in custody awaiting sentence? District courts have hundreds of people turning up every day and i dare say that a lot of them aren't too concerned about hygene. Court sittings can't really just stop when people's liberty is at stake.
    Can they not? Iran just released between 50,000 and 74,000 prisoners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    dePeatrick wrote: »
    Can they not? Iran just released between 50,000 and 74,000 prisoners.

    Releasing prisoners is literally the opposite of cancelling court sittings and keeping people in custody .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Anyone know what will happen to court cases and in particular criminal cases where people are remanded in custody awaiting sentence? District courts have hundreds of people turning up every day and i dare say that a lot of them aren't too concerned about hygene. Court sittings can't really just stop when people's liberty is at stake.

    Do you think other people hygiene is any better?

    No, it isn't. There is a cohort of people not washing their hands. If one good thing happens due to the coronavirus is the education - some might start washing their hands. And it isn't the people currently in custody ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    gozunda wrote: »
    Hand sanitizer has a best before. The Alcohol part tends to evaporate over time - rendering the liquid less usefull for killing viruses

    No sign of a best before on the bottle. Sure smells potent.


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