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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    With a positive case of the virus confirmed in the town of Cheltenham yesterday and with the racing festival about to get underway is there a realistic estimate of the number of Irish who have travelled or will travel there over the next few days. What measures are likely to be taken to test them when they arrive home at the airports and ferryports? I think very little or none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    They are doing the courts by video link in the UK I understand... I imagine it would be the same here.

    Wouldn't have the capacity or staff to video link every criminal arrested in one Garda district in Dublin daily nevermind the country. Garda station cells would fill up, (quickly) if prisoners weren't being brought before the court every day. Every person arrested on a warrant has to be brought before a court. Every person arrested for a serious offence has to be brought before a court. Add in that every person remanded in custody has to be brought before the court every 8, 15 or 30 days depending on what stage remand is at too.

    Could probably close the courts to the public with just court staff, legal staff, gardai and prison service allowed attend. Potentially pause any new jury trials and selections.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Shows the fear out there if nothing else.


    I mean, they don't KNOW for sure that he doesn't have it, even after he says he doesn't. He doesn't even know if he has it. He couldn't know for certain unless he was tested.
    With a positive case of the virus confirmed in the town of Cheltenham yesterday and with the racing festival about to get underway is there a realistic estimate of the number of Irish who have travelled or will travel there over the next few days. What measures are likely to be taken to test them when they arrive home at the airports and ferryports? I think very little or none.
    You can be sure of that. Do you think if there was a disease killing horses confirmed over that they'd be all bringing their horses? And yet this isn't a deterrent. Gambling is a pox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Just read an interview with an English guy that lives in wutan, he got the virus before it was officially announced and was describing his ordeal, he was saying he regularly goes to that market and has never seen bat's, live koalas or anything like that

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/amp/First-British-victim-25-describes-coronavirus.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Devastating.

    I wonder now do the Chinese think they're so clever with their live animal markets which flout international regulations, now they have thousands of people's blood on their hands and disrupted people's lives all around the world.

    I wonder now will they stop to think that there's a reason these regulations exist.

    At many wet markets, meat, poultry, and seafood are sold alongside live animals for consumption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    OK but this really doesn't have much to do with the post I was replying to.
    If anything it reinforces the fact that the authorities/experts should be putting the ****s up people.
    My response was to sentiments you expressed, not Strazdas' usual comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Devastating.

    I wonder now do the Chinese think they're so clever with their live animal markets which flout international regulations, now they have thousands of people's blood on their hands and disrupted people's lives all around the world.

    I wonder now will they stop to think that there's a reason these regulations exist.

    Honestly, fook the Chinese Government and fook their culture for this sh1t show! how more people aren’t disgusted by their ways is beyond me. I’ll probably get more hate for this comment than they will for compromising the Globe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    joe40 wrote: »
    Yeah, I agree with slowing it down, I just feel that the more extreme measures will be impossible to enforce over a long time period. There would be economic collapse and possibly crowd trouble.
    I'm all for better hygiene, stopping large crowds such as parades and even banning flights from infected areas, but I would prefer things which could be done over an extended period of several months/years. I feel the virus isn't going away so things like school closures for several weeks just aren't sustainable and may be ineffective in the long run.

    There's going to be economic collapse either way. That's a given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Honestly, fook the Chinese Government and fook their culture for this sh1t show! how more people aren’t disgusted by their ways is beyond me. I’ll probably get more hate for this comment than they will for compromising the Globe.

    I feel the same way. It's literally all their fault. If they had not flouted regulations and refused to do as they were asked after SARS, none of this would be happening. We'd all be going about our lives as normal, people in Italy wouldn't be dying in their homes because there aren't enough hospital beds.

    And how are they going to be punished for all this? They won't be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    bekker wrote: »
    Hopefully that is incorrect and they are obtaining a range of view from diverse sources, otherwise group think and confirmation bias could have serious effects.

    Whoever they are getting it from is hopeless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    the latest doing the rounds; NUIG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Ursabear


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Honestly, fook the Chinese Government and fook their culture for this sh1t show! how more people aren’t disgusted by their ways is beyond me. I’ll probably get more hate for this comment than they will for compromising the Globe.

    It's a virus, a virus could start here next year. They have started in Europe before and we spread them to the Americas etc. An ancient virus could release from the melting permafrost. I don't think it's helpful to blame an entire country or culture .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Whoever they are getting it from is hopeless.

    I wonder are the experts too reluctant too recommend radical, disruptive measures out of political/economic concerns. The government should be saying to them "You tell us what is the best course of action from a purely public health perspective, let us worry about the other aspects."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    bekker wrote: »
    My response was to sentiments you expressed, not Strazdas' usual comments.

    And my sentiments in response to that post are being misinterpreted by you as a 'don't panic, carry on as normal' thing which they aren't.
    It's no big deal, just clarifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Devastating.

    I wonder now do the Chinese think they're so clever with their live animal markets which flout international regulations, now they have thousands of people's blood on their hands and disrupted people's lives all around the world.

    I wonder now will they stop to think that there's a reason these regulations exist.

    What international regulations are these???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Shows the fear out there if nothing else.

    I laughed at that too much, especially the woman in red


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Worth a watch from C4

    https://youtu.be/n6TOlFfe-zI


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    "F**k the Chinese government" is fair enough. "F**k Chinese culture" is out and out racism, nocoverart and lainey_d_123 .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Ursabear wrote: »
    It's a virus, a virus could start here next year. They have started in Europe before and we spread them to the Americas etc. An ancient virus could release from the melting permafrost. I don't think it's helpful to blame an entire country or culture .

    How? perhaps from drinking Guinness too quickly. Come on! they need to be held accountable for this. Third pathogen from them this Century BTW. Nothing against the everyday Chinese folk but the Government and the culture in general needs addressing. Wake up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    nocoverart wrote: »
    How? perhaps from drinking Guinness too quickly. Come on! they need to be held accountable for this. Third pathogen from them this Century BTW. Nothing against the everyday Chinese folk but the Government and the culture in general needs addressing. Wake up!
    Which culture, nocoverart? Since you seem such an expert on Chinese "culture".

    What do you suggest the world does with "them" (Chinese people)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Which culture, nocoverart? Since you seem such an expert on Chinese "culture".

    I think these posters are being overly blunt, sweeping etc ... probably borderline xenophobic about it but there are deeply-rooted issues that have no easy solution

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/25/coronavirus-closures-reveal-vast-scale-of-chinas-secretive-wildlife-farm-industry


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    nocoverart wrote: »
    How? perhaps from drinking Guinness too quickly. Come on! they need to be held accountable for this. Third pathogen from them this Century BTW. Nothing against the everyday Chinese folk but the Government and the culture in general needs addressing. Wake up!

    Exactly who is going to hold them accountable do you reckon?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Every country with industrialised animal farming increases our risk of zoonotic transmission, just look at Big Farma in USA, probably not so much different in EU regarding pigs

    Pigs can be a huge vector risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    I think these posters are being overly blunt, sweeping etc about it but there are deeply-rooted issues that have no easy solution

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/25/coronavirus-closures-reveal-vast-scale-of-chinas-secretive-wildlife-farm-industry
    Yes, but there's a difference between acknowledging that there's a major problem with wet markets in many areas of China, and simply saying "fook their culture" and that something needs to be done about them as a people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    My sister In law works in a university, admin role. They were told today that academics have laptops so can work from home. Students can learn from home. Admin staff have desktops so must be in the office. She can’t roll her chair back without hitting someone so no social distancing for her. Those with children will possibly be exempt. So she will have to work and she’ll have to cover her colleagues workloads

    The taps in our work loos are all screw handles and only hand dryers so you wash your hands, but as soon as you turn the water off, you’re contaminated again. :

    Is there a sink plug!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Every country with industrialised animal farming increases our risk of zoonotic transmission, just look at big farma in USA, probably not so much different in EU regarding pigs

    Pigs can be a huge vector risk.

    This is true, but the risk is tenfold when you throw exotic animals and lax regulations into the equation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    Yes, but there's a difference between acknowledging that there's a major problem with wet markets in many areas of China, and simply saying "fook their culture" and that something needs to be done about them as a people.

    Agreed.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretty disgusting comments.


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