Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Hurrache · 09-03-2020 11:24PM

daheff wrote: »

If there was a quarantine...also Italy/China.....you know what's going on right now, yeah??

Do you know what's involved in such quarantines? Why would farmers be prevented planting crops?

Bob24 · 09-03-2020 11:24PM

daheff wrote: »

Switzerland isn't part of the EU....but pretty sh1tty thing to do.

The poster was talking about European values though (didn’t mention the EU). Switzerland is in Europe.

BorneTobyWilde · 09-03-2020 11:24PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCucUd5KeJo

New Home · 09-03-2020 11:25PM

imfml wrote: »

Has Italy published any stats on age, health etc of those who have unfortunately died from the virus?

Someone earlier posted links to two sites, this pdf was one of the documents in one of them.

https://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Infografica_09marzo.pdf/1f62ad0a-e156-cf27-309d-26adcb1b52b4?t=1583782049035

The chart you're looking for (minus the pre-existing conditions) is on the bottom left hand corner. The first column shows the age group, the second the numbers and percentage of deceased in each of the categories, and the third the mortality rate by age group.

Thelonious Monk · 09-03-2020 11:25PM

bekker wrote: »

That the same Germany that was lecturing Poles, Hungarians and others on European Values?

Revenge for the Swiss keeping their Nazi gold

Jim_Hodge · 09-03-2020 11:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is it time to buy some masks? Which ones to get ?

The ones recommended as having any level of effectiveness are very hard to come by any more. You need FFP2 or FFP3 at a very minimum.

jam_mac_jam · 09-03-2020 11:25PM

Mellor wrote: »

Sigh. maybe you should take you own advice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2

Severe acute respiratory syndrome is literally what SARS stands for. It's not a flu as people kept repeating. This is really basic stuff. We're doomed.

Its not the same disease. Sars is generally used for the 2003 outbreak. They are related but different diseases. I know what it stands for thanks.

Calm down.

RandomName2 · 09-03-2020 11:25PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Oh for God's sake, it's not SARS.
Way over the top stuff.

Okay, some benchmarks

virus|fatality|basic reproduction number
seasonal flu

0.1% | 1.3
spanish flu

2-3% | 2.1
covid-19

3.0% | 2.0-3.0
SARS

9.0% | 2.0-4.0

So covid-19 is worse than the 1918 pandemic, but not as bad as SARS

t8010789 · 09-03-2020 11:26PM

gabeeg wrote: »

I travel the length of the bus using nothing but my elbows.

Everyone hates me

I’d like to see that

daheff · 09-03-2020 11:26PM

Bob24 wrote: »

The poster was talking about European values though. Switzerland is in Europe.

The poster was referencing an EU spat.

Well aware of geographical location of Switzerland

uck51js9zml2yt · 09-03-2020 11:26PM

Hurrache wrote: »

The coronavirus has nothing to do with that though.

Not that we know of but as this is boards it won't take too long for it to get the blame for the bad weather.

Ground is too wet to get a tractor onto. If we don't get a change it will effect local food supply later in the year.

megatron989 · 09-03-2020 11:26PM

nocoverart wrote: »

Was in the Chemist this morning, oldish woman quite concerned that she only has hand wash and can’t get any hand sanitizer whilst openly coughing on the displayed hand wash on the front counter.

Yeah I've come across quite a few obviously dry coughs over the last few days, I'd say half weren't even making the slightest attempt to cover their mouths. Absolute savages. They'll be the doom of us all ðŸ˜·

igCorcaigh · 09-03-2020 11:27PM

Miike wrote: »

I would posit that this is a bad idea. If even one person reads a single academic source linked in this thread and and learns ONE thing from it, that can only have a positive effect on controlling the spread of this in the public in terms of personal responsibility.

Just my take on it

I'd take any advice from this thread with the same caution as food health and safety advice, which is not allowed.

More of a discussion forum than informed advice. We're all anon posters.

Everyone should follow HSE guidance for what measures to take and use common sense.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 09-03-2020 11:27PM

Anyone know if the locations of those infected in Northern Ireland? I can’t find any details other than 3 or 4 are from Belfast direction. The rest of UK locations are being specified, why not NI?

Hurrache · 09-03-2020 11:28PM

Lydia Gigantic Prisoner wrote: »

Not that we know of but as this is boards it won't take too long for it to get the blame for the bad weather.

Ground is too wet to get a tractor onto. If we don't get a change it will effect local food supply later in the year.

Absolutely. Some people have a misunderstanding of what's involved in self isolation and "lock down".

bekker · 09-03-2020 11:28PM

daheff wrote: »

Switzerland isn't part of the EU....but pretty sh1tty thing to do.

Italy is though, and both Frances and Germany have banned exports of masks etc, claim their own needs come first. These are two countries are held to be key decision makers of EU. Obviously leading by example is a decision they've decided to skip.

old_aussie · 09-03-2020 11:28PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is it time to buy some masks? Which ones to get ?

The one's that are "all sold out"

Logan Roy · 09-03-2020 11:28PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Anyone know if the locations of those infected in Northern Ireland? I can’t find any details other than 3 or 4 are from Belfast direction. The rest of UK locations are being specified, why not NI?

Why do you need to know this? Can people not just assume it's everywhere now and take the necessary precautions....

Away With The Fairies · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is it time to buy some masks? Which ones to get ?

Some kinky bondage masks

ceadaoin. · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Okay, some benchmarks

seasonal flu: 0.1% fatality, 1.3 basic reproduction number
spanish flu: 2-3% fatality, 2.1 basic reproduction number
covid-19: 3.0% fatality, 2.0-3.0 basic reproduction number
SARS: 9.0% fatality, 2.0-4.0 basic reproduction number

So covid-19 is worse than the 1918 pandemic, but not as bad as SARS

Except there is no reliable number of fatalities etc at this point. It's likely to be lower than 3% but there is no way to say with certainty

tillyfilly · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

I hear on WhatsApp the Brits and the property developers are sneaking face masks out of the country by the boat load

daheff · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

Hurrache wrote: »

Do you know what's involved in such quarantines? Why would farmers be prevented planting crops?

Well in China people were told to stay at home. ....not all farmer workers live on the farm. A lot of labourers would have to travel to the farm for work.

While we mightn't have the big industrial farming in Ireland, a lot of countries where we source food do...and transient labourers. If they can't get to the farm, then might be issues ??

jam_mac_jam · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

Mellor wrote: »

Sigh. maybe you should take you own advice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2

Severe acute respiratory syndrome is literally what SARS stands for. It's not a flu as people kept repeating. This is really basic stuff. We're doomed.

Sigh...Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is a viral respiratory disease of zoonotic origin caused by the SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV). Between November 2002 and July 2003, an outbreak of SARS in southern China caused an eventual 8,098 cases, resulting in 774 deaths reported in 17 countries (9.6% fatality rate),[1] with the majority of cases in mainland China and Hong Kong.[2] No cases of SARS have been reported worldwide since 2004.[3] In late 2017, Chinese scientists traced the virus through the intermediary of civets to cave-dwelling horseshoe bats in Yunnan province.[4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome

odyssey06 · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

Bob24 wrote: »

The poster was talking about European values though (didn’t mention the EU). Switzerland is in Europe.

Plus Germany banned the export of protective gear... export out of Germany.
Every country for itself signal.

owlbethere · 09-03-2020 11:29PM

amadangomor wrote: »

He has limited symptoms so far - only a fever.

Will probably take weeks for him to be virus free. Up to 6 weeks Honahan said recently. It's why it is such a dangerous virus as people with little or no symptoms can infect people who can have serious and deadly symptoms.

So far this is promising. I really don't want to pick out any bad because theres enough fear, worry and doom. I read earlier that in the nursing home in America, some of the residents there went from no symptoms to death within hours.

Having little or no symptoms, hopefully he will be well going forward. What if he relapses?

citysights · 09-03-2020 11:30PM

bilston wrote: »

Looking at the stats, it's been a very bad day for Spain.

Nearly a doubling in cases to over 1,200 in one day.

Yes saw that, very bad there. I met Irish people living over there last year who got hand foot and mouth a child passed it onto the parents. Another woman who goes there a lot says the women don’t wash their hands after using public toilets. Sorry to be offensive to any Spanish people ( because we’ve plenty like that here too) But hearing about corona over there just brought back to me what the woman had said. Poor Spain hope they get this awful thing under control. Think they have a really good health care system though it’s what I’ve heard so hope they will get the better of this virus.

Darc19 · 09-03-2020 11:30PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

Okay, some benchmarks

seasonal flu: 0.1% fatality, 1.3 basic reproduction number
spanish flu: 2-3% fatality, 2.1 basic reproduction number
covid-19: 3.0% fatality, 2.0-3.0 basic reproduction number
SARS: 9.0% fatality, 2.0-4.0 basic reproduction number

So covid-19 is worse than the 1918 pandemic, but not as bad as SARS

What's the flu figure without vaccine?

Mellor · 09-03-2020 11:31PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

That virus had a much higher cfr.
This virus is called SARS2, which I think is a poor choice in name. It's clinical feature is similar but no where near as deadly.

It's not a choice of name. It's the scientifically correct taxonomy.
Biologically that's what it is.
The 2003 and 2019 outbreaks are different. The former is more fatal, the latter transmits easier and faster. But they are both corona-viruses. and they both cause severe respiratory issues.

Jin luk · 09-03-2020 11:31PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Anyone know if the locations of those infected in Northern Ireland? I can’t find any details other than 3 or 4 are from Belfast direction. The rest of UK locations are being specified, why not NI?

St Galls gaa club is a start for you.

Hurrache · 09-03-2020 11:31PM

daheff wrote: »

Well in China people were told to stay at home. ....not all farmer workers live on the farm. A lot of labourers would have to travel to the farm for work.

While we mightn't have the big industrial farming in Ireland, a lot of countries where we source food do...and transient labourers. If they can't get to the farm, then might be issues ??

Few transient labours are employed in farms during sowing, it's pretty much done by one guy in a tractor in Ireland anyway.

And the farmer generally lives on his farm, or a field or two over.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP