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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    gw80 wrote: »
    Could this virus mutate into something even more dangerous, and if so would people who had the original virus be immune to the mutation?
    Sorry if this has been asked already.

    The virus could mutate into something more serious or it could go the other way. It's crystal ball material to make remarks on it though and there is no immunity (that we know of).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    3 is good news. Even if we get to the suspected worse case numbers, the longer it takes to get there the better. Right?

    Completely and that is the goal. By the grace of god our initial cases in the country lagged behind the rest of Europe and it means we get longer time to prepare while the public are taking it seriously.

    We know there is a lag in every single graph between first cases and the growth phase and our actions have been no different to places who have recently started ballooning.

    Leo has already started priming people today. Every day with heightened seriousness and lower cases is worth its weight in gold though, but let's not be braindead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Ipso wrote: »
    Did you type that with one hand under the desk?

    People deny there is a problem and when the problem becomes very real they blame the people who warned about the problem.


    The people saying it is going to get bad are the same people who wanted the flights from Italy stopped.


    Where are most of the confirmed cases coming from again?


    Post reported by the way calling another user a wa*ker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    gw80 wrote: »
    Could this virus mutate into something even more dangerous, and if so would people who had the original virus be immune to the mutation?
    Sorry if this has been asked already.

    Jesus some real dour people in here. Situation is bad enough as it is and you are fantasising about it being even worse.

    There's allegedly already 2 strains of the virus out there. The original and a weaker strain and supposedly you can catch both. I have my doubts about the accuracy of this claim though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Jesus some real dour people in here. Situation is bad enough as it is and you are fantasising about it being even worse.

    There's allegedly already 2 strains of the virus out there. The original and a weaker strain and supposedly you can catch both. I have my doubts about the accuracy of this claim though.

    https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

    There are 2 strains out there :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Jesus some real dour people in here. Situation is bad enough as it is and you are fantasising about it being even worse.

    There's allegedly already 2 strains of the virus out there. The original and a weaker strain and supposedly you can catch both. I have my doubts about the accuracy of this claim though.

    The chap asked a question ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    So panic over in Ireland now. Great.

    No need to have cancelled the Parade either I suppose. Great.

    We are a nation of gullible fools who believe we are invincible and will not follow the trajectory of other countries in Europe.

    Well maybe we are blessed and fortunate, hope so!
    Not sure anyone said the panic is over did they? The opposite actually!

    And "we" are definitely not a nation of gullible fools who believe we are invincible (where did anyone say that?) given all the doom and gloom and suspicion towards any public official!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    2Mad2BeMad wrote: »
    The point of cancelling the parades is to slow it down. Containment is out the window at this point no matter how much the hse continue to say that we are in that phase. It's about slowing it down so the hospitals arnt over run with people who are critically ill.

    Agree, but won't stop the pubs being full either, but maybe less than usual.

    There are other big gatherings in the offing too. International spectators and participants in the Conference centre. Look it up, early April.

    Anyway, Cheltenham visitors will return here in their droves. Better isolate them quick!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Russians and Saudis have no moral compass, using the virus to start an more impactful oil war, no shame !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    3 new cases is actually a relief, I really was getting worried with all the stuff going on earlier. In fairness it seems like our authority’s are not f**king around.

    Cancelling the parades and putting aside billions to incentivise people to stay at home if they are infected. I’m really encouraged by these events.

    If any parent is interested, I’ve been slowly explaining to my young boys what’s going on. I’ve had the flu, pneumonia and bronchitis over the last few years so explained to them it was like when daddy got that but just a lot of people are getting it.

    I explained to them that my wife, myself and they will be fine but I also explained that we have to be extra careful around their grand parents because they may feel more sick if they get the virus. They watched the news with me and I explained I’m sad because a lot of people are going to get sick and die. I want my children to empathize with others and I want them to understand that there is a cost to being selfish and self centred at others expense.

    Whenever they ask about it I try to address it. I don’t scare them , reassure them and try to use it to get them to take vitamins and wash their hands. Also told them they may be getting time off school at some stage. We also mentioned holidays might not be happening but we won’t know until later on in the year.

    My youngest is 6. I don’t believe in keeping everything from our children. When my dad died I was inconsolable for days but tried to let them see me cry and explained to them this is what love is. Love is to feel pain after so much joy so cherish the time with loved ones.

    I know people are scared but it’s kind of sad to see suggestions that old or vulnerable should be expendable in the interest of money. I appreciate a balance has to be had and we may not be able to shut everything down but if what’s happening in Italy comes here , it sounds like a lot of people may have to be let die because we won’t have the resources to help them.


    This is literally life or death. Yes, our economy is important but it will recover. It recovered in 2008 and it’s in the everybody’s interest that we all get back on track so while it will be scary, when the dust settles our economy will recover. But after this is over I really hope we can look back in pride at how we gave our old, our vulnerable and our healthcare workers the best possible chance to get through this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    If Boris Johnson was off to visit Trump on the taxpayers dime at a time of national crisis he would be slated by most. Same if Trump went to visit Boris.

    But when Leo does heads off on business class flights, expensive restaurants and 5 star hotels to the Us he gets a free pass.

    Amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Jesus some real dour people in here. Situation is bad enough as it is and you are fantasising about it being even worse.

    There's allegedly already 2 strains of the virus out there. The original and a weaker strain and supposedly you can catch both. I have my doubts about the accuracy of this claim though.

    It's a perfectly valid concern, given how the Spanish flu played out, with the second wave being a more dedly mutated version and causing most of the deaths. then There was a third wave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    I bet Paddy's Day will be blue skies and 20C+ temps after the parades are cancelled.
    Watch I'm tellin ya:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Patricks day parade cancelled in Belfast


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Question about the quarantine if North Italy, if anyone knows.

    Is ith the region itself quarantined from the rest of Italy, with people free to move around within the region, or is movement between cities and towns in the region prohibited too?

    TIA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,419 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Agree, but won't stop the pubs being full either, but maybe less than usual.

    There are other big gatherings in the offing too. International spectators and participants in the Conference centre. Look it up, early April.

    Anyway, Cheltenham visitors will return here in their droves. Better isolate them quick!

    Switzerland and France has banned indoor events with more than 1000 people.
    Germany seem to be following suit...
    Ireland due to issue updated guidelines on public gatherings tomorrow.

    What's the conference centre capacity?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Miike wrote: »

    Has that been peer reviewed and confirmed yet?
    The chap asked a question ffs

    And I answered him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Some very relevant info updates on the HSE live site - apologies if I'm repeating this.

    "It is likely you are more at risk of serious illness if you catch coronavirus and:

    are 60 years of age and over
    have a long-term medical condition – for example, heart disease, lung disease, diabetes, cancer or high blood pressure
    If you are in an at-risk group take extra care to protect yourself from coronavirus. We expect there to be community spread of the virus soon. Think about how you can avoid crowded spaces, especially indoors. Indoor spaces are less well ventilated. The virus is more likely to spread in smaller and more crowded spaces.
    "

    Not catching this would be the best outcome for those in the at risk category - be antisocial - enjoy homely pursuits and stay well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,897 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    If Boris Johnson was off to visit Trump on the taxpayers dime at a time of national crisis he would be slated by most. Same if Trump went to visit Boris.

    But when Leo does heads off on business class flights, expensive restaurants and 5 star hotels to the Us he gets a free pass.

    Amazing.

    The taoiseach goes every year
    Don't see the issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭little bess


    The government action regarding illness benefit is good news. However what happens if you have to go into self isolation because of exposure, have they addressed that?

    And mortgage, rent and loan repayments, a lot of people don’t have savings to cover these unfortunately.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    I bet Paddy's Day will be blue skies and 20C+ temps after the parades are cancelled.
    Watch I'm tellin ya:pac:

    That sounds miserable.

    We need rain for parades and loads of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Not sure anyone said the panic is over did they? The opposite actually!

    And "we" are definitely not a nation of gullible fools who believe we are invincible (where did anyone say that?) given all the doom and gloom and suspicion towards any public official!

    Look, I meant no offence, but myself included, Irish people tend to be dismissive about directions from Government.

    So we can be complacent and gullible just the same in thinking we will not be affected by this like every other country has been, Island Nation or not. We are special.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Has that been peer reviewed and confirmed yet?



    And I answered him.

    You also made some sh*tty ass comment at the start that you pulled from nowhere as if the person was jizzing in their pants at the thought of it

    Honestly don't know how you picked that up from his post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    2020 coronavirus outbreak in the Republic of Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    If Boris Johnson was off to visit Trump on the taxpayers dime at a time of national crisis he would be slated by most. Same if Trump went to visit Boris.

    But when Leo does heads off on business class flights, expensive restaurants and 5 star hotels to the Us he gets a free pass.

    Amazing.

    The annual American suck up around Patrick's Day needs to end.

    It's utterly bizarre that the head of government and his ministers spend our national day abroad, mostly in the United States.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    I know every is saying its only 3 maybe its not that bad here but if anyone watched the video on exponential growth, 3 is approximately what we should be getting at this stage, the daily double digits wont happen for another ~12 days or so if we continue at this rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    I bet Paddy's Day will be blue skies and 20C+ temps after the parades are cancelled.
    Watch I'm tellin ya:pac:

    That would be great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭Guffy


    The annual American suck up around Patrick's Day needs to end.

    It's utterly bizarre that the head of government and his ministers spend our national day abroad, mostly in the United States.

    It's not really bizarre at all, it's marketing.


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